a4 brake upgrade

hi all the time as come to replace the front discs and pads on my car at the moment it is standard 288mm discs i was thinking of upgrading to the 312mm discs i know its the same calipers and pads but what i need is the larger caliper carriers do any of you know where i can buy these from and roughly how much i can expect to pay . also as anyone done this upgrade and is it worth it i have already got 17" wheels on so there is no issue with clearance so i thought as i have to buy discs and pads it would be a good time to do it your thoughts would be very much appreciated

https://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/s...ad.php?t=96217

Why go 312 when you can go 320 :D

i dont realy want to go to that expence i was just thinking as the brakes needed changing i would try and get the bigger carrier bracket and discs anyone know where i can get the carriers from

I recently did 288 to 312mm brakes. My old brakes were SHOT so i never really knew what they were like as i only had the car 3 weeks.

Mine are still bedding in and there ok but not stunning. I guess I will know after few hundred miles only done 200miles on them so far.

I got my carriers off ebay found a guy selling full set of discs/pads/calipers/carriers from a 3ltr A4 Avant. I didn't use the pads as the sensor cable was shot but the discs are pratically brand new but I already bought Pagid discs and pads from eurocarparts, so If you wants the 312mm discs i got with the kit from ebay make me an offer. Carriers arent that easy to find that much I can say!

DBSK - If someone wants my 312mm setup for there A4 and pays me £200 I'll take your kit. lol

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Originally Posted by mr singh

I recently did 288 to 312mm brakes. My old brakes were SHOT so i never really knew what they were like as i only had the car 3 weeks.

Mine are still bedding in and there ok but not stunning. I guess I will know after few hundred miles only done 200miles on them so far.

I got my carriers off ebay found a guy selling full set of discs/pads/calipers/carriers from a 3ltr A4 Avant. I didn't use the pads as the sensor cable was shot but the discs are pratically brand new but I already bought Pagid discs and pads from eurocarparts, so If you wants the 312mm discs i got with the kit from ebay make me an offer. Carriers arent that easy to find that much I can say!

DBSK - If someone wants my 312mm setup for there A4 and pays me £200 I'll take your kit. lol

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Cool. They are on ebay as we speak

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...STRK:MESELX:IT

So does anyone know the part or a person selling the brackets to go from 288 to 312mm discs? i had 312mm on my Leon Cupra, and thought they were more than up to the job, even with 240bhp i never got brake fade.

Does any body have a 220mm set up there trying to sell?

I have told my insurance company I am fitting big brakes and they dropped my insurance from £950 to £550ish !!

Aparently, its cheaper for me to drive a modifyed A4 than a std one!?

Dave

hi mate i presume you are talking about upgrading your front discs . if so even the 1.6 a4 had 280mm front discs so are you sure you want a 220mm upgrade or do you mean you want to upgrade to 288 mm

Sorry, no, I ment 320mm !! doh. and yeah, the front's.

Ive got 312mm's on my Fabia vRS and there fine for a small car, but wanted something abit bigger for the Avant.

BTW, ive got a Audi A4 Avant Quattro Sport TDi (mouthfull), its the B6 version (2002-2005).

Dave

With a Quattro do you not have to upgrade all 4 brakes? as far as I know the brakes on each wheel are the same, it is only on the 2 wheel drive cars where the rear is different from the front.

I couyld be wrong here.

Walter.

no mate quattros have the same brakes as the 2 wheel drive cars

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Originally Posted by Lofty86

Sorry, no, I ment 320mm !! doh. and yeah, the front's.

Ive got 312mm's on my Fabia vRS and there fine for a small car, but wanted something abit bigger for the Avant.

BTW, ive got a Audi A4 Avant Quattro Sport TDi (mouthfull), its the B6 version (2002-2005).

Dave

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hi if the a4 is being used for normal road use ie no track days the 312mm upgrade is more than enough they realy bring the speed down very quickly . in my humble oppinion. my car is a remapped a4 2004 sport avant and i am well impressed with this 312mm set up

I dont see why you would have to do all 4. Would make the back lock up to easy??

Shame I didnt keep the original brakes of the Fabia, could have swapped it all about.

The Fabia brakes where shocking before, all or nothing in the wet.
Because of the bigger disc, the abs could work better and seemed to be able to control locking easyer.
It stops really fast now, but Its lighter than the Audi, so just thought bigger than 312's would be best.

So is it just the same 312's as on the TT ? Calipers, cariers, pads and discs?

Dave

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Originally Posted by Lofty86

I hope not!!
That wont be cheap.

I dont see why you would have to do all 4. Would make the back lock up to easy??

Anyone else?

Dave

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as i said earlier the quattros are the same as the 2 wheel drive cars

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Originally Posted by sbt

as i said earlier the quattros are the same as the 2 wheel drive cars

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Yeah, didnt see that post. Doh. Edited last post.
Dave

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Originally Posted by Lofty86

I dont see why you would have to do all 4. Would make the back lock up to easy??

Shame I didnt keep the original brakes of the Fabia, could have swapped it all about.

The Fabia brakes where shocking before, all or nothing in the wet.
Because of the bigger disc, the abs could work better and seemed to be able to control locking easyer.
It stops really fast now, but Its lighter than the Audi, so just thought bigger than 312's would be best.

So is it just the same 312's as on the TT ? Calipers, cariers, pads and discs?

Dave

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no the tt calipers will not fit the a4 the bolt spacing is different . i got my 312mm carriers from a 3.0 petrol a4

Ahh, thanks 'SBT'. Saved me some money there.

Are the discs the same tho? as I have a set of 312mm discs in the garage off of a TT (ones that came with the brakes for the Fabia).
There 5x100pcd.
I archually dont know the pcd of the A4 yet as ive only had the car a day and not looked into wheels etc, only engine mods.

Dave

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Originally Posted by sbt

no the tt calipers will not fit the a4 the bolt spacing is different . i got my 312mm carriers from a 3.0 petrol a4

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Just brousing eBay...
Was it the B6 3.0l Petrol that has the 312's? or the B7?
Dave

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Originally Posted by Lofty86

Ahh, thanks 'SBT'. Saved me some money there.

Are the discs the same tho? as I have a set of 312mm discs in the garage off of a TT (ones that came with the brakes for the Fabia).
There 5x100pcd.
I archually dont know the pcd of the A4 yet as ive only had the car a day and not looked into wheels etc, only engine mods.

Dave

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unfortunately the tt discs are not suitable for the a4 they have a PCD of 5x100 you require a PCD 5x112

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Originally Posted by Lofty86

Just brousing eBay...
Was it the B6 3.0l Petrol that has the 312's? or the B7?
Dave

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mine came from the 3.0 petrol b6

Just to check, are these the right discs?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-A4-3-0-V6...item1e5acd4a3f

Wheres the best place to get calipers from?
Dave

hi mate yes they are the right discs . as regards where you get the calipers from you dont need the calipers you can use the calipers you have on now but what you do need is the caliper carriers from the 3.0 petrol . basically they are bigger ie stand higher to allow for the 312mm discs your original calipers bolt straight on these . you get the improved braking from the fact that the caliper is further out from the hub therefore applying more leverage which equates to improved stopping power

Cool.

That different to the Fabia's set up, where you use the whole caliper, just bolts straight on using original mounts and hose.

I know all about the leverage side of things (im an engineer), but thank you anyhow.

Cant find any carriers tho. Im presuming their not too easy to find?

Dave

Just thought, the 2004 B6S4 has a 345x30mm setup.

Is that a straight swop with my quattro or is my only option the 312mm setup off the 3.0l petrol?

Sorry for the questions, just want to get it right 1st time.
Cant affod not to with a 3month old kid.

Dave

i beleive there is another way using b7 brakes but i am not that clued up on this perhaps somebody else might like to chip in on this one

Anyone?