Affected EA189 engine

[Whippy53]

A, don't waste time checking, if you have a EA189 engine you will get a recall
B, Ultras use the EA 288 which is not affected
C, your all a bit late to this party,
https://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/s...A?goto=newpost

[Westyfield2]

A, don't waste time checking, if you have a EA189 engine you will get a recall
B, Ultras use the EA 288 which is not affected
C, your all a bit late to this party,
Ouch - VW/Audi in the US of A - Page 35

This!


Other than retrofitting an AdBlue Selective Catalytic Reduction system, I can't really think what they're going to do. Any other mechanism I can think of will probably reduce one of MPG/Power/Lifespan.

Anyways I'm glad the whole fallacy of diesels has finally hit the media headlines. Our lawmakers obsessed over CO2 for 'Global Warming' whilst ignoring the harmful pollutants like NOx & Particulates and pushed consumers into buying Diesels. Hopefully soon we'll see a policy shift and manufacturers start offering petrol engines again.

[Bloater]

Checked mine yesterday and yes affected as well.

A bit surprised as the initial reports suggested that they got round the emissions by injecting large quantities of adBlue into the exhaust, something that couldn't be done for general driving as it wouldn't last long.

Now my engine is the one stated, so no AdBlue system, so it seems that the initial reports were wrong on how the emissions were achieved.

Mine is out of warranty next March anyway, so maybe I could push for either not having it done, or something towards a part-ex. Not going to worry greatly over it at the moment, as I work abroad so the car is easily achieving it's targets, NOx emissions are zero when it's parked up

Watching with interest though

[dieseloil]

I have just bought Audi A6 avant 2009 2.0tde i common rail diesel.I was under the impression that my engine is one that is affected by the emission problems.

In Austria at the moment and went to Innsbruck audi dealer for a faulty Exhaust Pressure Sensor repair G450

This was done as well as a software up date which I did not ask for and do not know what it exactly relates too,it cost 71 euros

i have just been on UK Audi site and I find my engine is not affected?

Have they done an upgrade/downgrade via the back door without letting on,I do not speak german so I could not find out from them

[Olio]

My MY14 2.0 TDI Multi (no adblue) is affected according to the website. Now I'm happy if they fix the issue when it does not change the car's drving and economy.
So the question is the following: will the fix tremove the cheat code (i.e. the car will always remain is standard road mode), or will the fix change the standard road mode to better reflect the performance it should have (which from what we know means loss of BHP, increase in fuel use)

In the first case, I have no issue, in the second... I do.

I'll wait and see.

[Westyfield2]

A bit surprised as the initial reports suggested that they got round the emissions by injecting large quantities of adBlue into the exhaust, something that couldn't be done for general driving as it wouldn't last long.
Now my engine is the one stated, so no AdBlue system, so it seems that the initial reports were wrong on how the emissions were achieved.

To be honest it all depends on which media outlets you read. Some of the media outlets have got it right all along, whereas others haven't had a clue what they're talking about.

The End Of Europe's Love Affair With Diesel? and Sky News Tonight on Twitter: "Watch: Volkswagen emissions revelations have re-ignited the petrol vs. diesel debate & raised questions over tests https://t.co/5ebWAH0YTu" are quite good as the mainstream media goes. Or if you want a long read take a look at http://www.theicct.org/sites/default...2009152015.pdf

The main thing really is that the USA didn't want diesels on their roads (pollution etc) so made the NOx regulations super tough. VAG for some reason decided they weren't happy with the status quo of selling great petrol engines, and fiddled the diesel emissions test to get their US sales allowed. If the USA weren't tougher on pollution than Europe is, or VAG hadn't wanted to peddle their obsession with diesel into the USA also, then the whole thing wouldn't have happened.

[fest0r]

Tree hugging, liberal, compensation seeker… burn him!

I really hope this thread isn’t assimilated. You’re not even allowed to call it a “fix” over there now. My request has probably sealed its fate though

Lots of speculation until we find out what the remedy (remedies) will be, but one of the facts we have is the statement from the transport secretary about UK taxpayers not incurring higher vehicle excise duty on their cars. Does anyone have any more info on this? Is it due to tax legislation or has the treasury agreed a deal with VW? I can see the Taxpayers Alliance and other manufacturers up in arms if it turns out models should have been in a higher VED band.

[jcdub]

I remember I had a previous car (2009 Passat CC 140) remapped on the RR and the tuner couldn't understand how the car was running with certain values lower than he'd ever seen on any 2.0 vag tdi. It managed to get the car mapped to 190bhp either way.
So I just checked it on the VW site, and its listed as needing the update.
I'd imagine the cars affected with remaps will lose them with the update!

[fest0r]

You could be right… maybe naughty mode kicked in on his rolling road before the remap? Did you notice a big difference on the road? I wonder how much of the remap was a real world gain?

It could be quite a headache for all the places offering free remaps after servicing etc.

[Sam]

I really hope this thread isn’t assimilated. You’re not even allowed to call it a “fix” over there now. My request has probably sealed its fate though...

I'm not sure why you're trying to fight a fight that neither exists nor needs to exist but as it's quite clear you're having a dig at me I'll bite; I stated my opinion. I didn't say you weren't allowed to call it a fix. This isn't an dystopian novel, it's an online forum.

Lots of speculation until we find out what the remedy (remedies) will be, but one of the facts we have is the statement from the transport secretary about UK taxpayers not incurring higher vehicle excise duty on their cars. Does anyone have any more info on this? Is it due to tax legislation or has the treasury agreed a deal with VW? I can see the Taxpayers Alliance and other manufacturers up in arms if it turns out models should have been in a higher VED band.

I suspect it is because NOx has absolutely nothing to do with CO2 on which VED is calculated.