Affected EA189 engine

[Steve82]

Just checked my VIN in the below link and its one of the affected engines

Check your car < Home < Owners Area < Audi < Audi UK

ID: 23N6 S-Software update for engine control unit

Car is a 2.0 TDI Ultra Black Edition 2014.

Anyone else affected?

[Bar Shaker]

I would want to know what they were going to do to 'fix' it.

Killing the power to give me the NOx figures that I thought I was buying would not be an option.

The beard and sandals brigade may disagree.

[Q7quattro]

can they make you have the software update ? What if you refuse.

does it have to be done by Law ? If it doesn't , they can't force you to do it

[Q7quattro]

Thanks for posting the link....

just checked mine, I have an effected engine as well, below is taken from the Daily Telegraph, looks likes "they can't make you have the update to fix the issue"

if by having the update costs me more in diesel to run the car ..then I won't be having the update , however as my car has 14 months warranty will it void the warranty if I don't have the update ?

if it does void the warranty then it's a case of 14 months warranty VS principle of not having it done


The Department for Transport says drivers with cars fitted with Volkswagen's pollution-cheating software are under no obligation to send the vehicles back to VW dealerships to get them modified.
"If a driver didn't return the vehicle, that wouldn't be illegal," a DfT spokesman said, although he added that failure to do so could affect any warranty on the car as well as its resale value.
Motorists would not be fined if their cars weren't fixed, "but it is in their interest to do it".

[Greenman58]

Just checked my 2014 Ultra and it says it's not affected. How come some are and some aren't of the same model and year?

[diecastsink]

Depending what your law and regulations say, it may be forced to do the update. Here in Northern light periferia, if they make a service campaing you can try to fight only with manufacturer to keep your warranty, but if they make a recall as per law, then the traffic ministry officers orwhatever follow the cars modified, and may force you to do the update. Or in other words, may invalidate your vehicle license causing you driving illegal vehicle.

Our taxation is based on CO2 emission, which is not affected by false software. Worst we expected was that we got additional tax postpay due to raised CO2 figures!

Take a look at the official swedish VW web pages, there are listed hundreds of models up to year 2015!

What about when the first US driver gets hit by the truck in junction due to that the car will not accelerate as before, and hurts/dies ?
It is the same problem when you get cheap underpowered car in Canarias and try to get into local traffic pace.

[creampoint]

Most odd. My understanding was that all EU6 cars were OK. Mine was one of the first 2.0 tdi Ultras in the UK and the VIN check shows no action needed (as I expected)

However you mention 23N6 update. If that is all the website returns then it is nothing to do with emissions - rather a workshop campaign to solve a potential battery drain by the umpteen computers on board - that happened to me and a few others. Definitely worth having that update done. Hope that helps.

[EasyTiger75]

I think there might be some confusion here, the affected models should show the following code in the checker:

23Q4 S-Field campaign for diesel exhaust gas EA189

I'm one of those affected, MY2013 A6 Avant 2.0TDI S-line. I guess we just have to wait and see what the fix is but can't see what they can do that won't affect either economy or performance.

[chesterfield]

If by having the fix done it lowered the performance of the car, altered the economy or changed the car significantly from the advertised specification, then I'd be asking for a full refund. False advertising and all that.

[stuart]

I look at it this way...

1. Who has said that it is going to effect performance and MPG? The press!! if there so called experts know more about the range of VAG cars, there engines and management than VAG do then maybe they should get in touch with VAG.. I am sure they may need the help at the minute

2. Until my dealer tells me "the fix is xyz" I take all the press as ******** ..

3. So far it is not a compulsory recall, it is your choice to have it done... SO, as I get on well with the dealer, let them do a few, if they have no issues with cars they do, I would have no problem having mine done.. They will tell me the truth.. MY friend is a technician there as well

Now..

4. You can say that VW have ****** off 11 million people around the world and got more bad press that they could wish for... DO you really think they would be stupid enough to give a customer, a customer that they are trying to impress, make happy, keep there customer and restore there faith in the brand a car back that is not 100% right?

All that would do is **** off 11 million people even more and get even more bad press..

Do not worry based on the press comments.. enjoy your car, keep calm and I am sure all will be good... I am not worried or concerned, they made a mistake, they will put it right...

PS... Just remember this is the start of it... at least we know were we stand now, the "**** will hit the fan" soon with others....