A6 C6 Electronic Parking Brake (EPB) Problem, please help!

[Big.B]

Hi guys,

It seems that my beloved car developed today, out of nowhere a problem.
This morning I left to work at about 9 o'clock and as you know, the snow in Bham is about 5-10 cm tall on the side streets. I managed to get out without any help and got to work in no time. Did not have any problems.
I parked and I have put the parking break on and left the car for 9 hours there.
When I got back, I have put the ignition (low fuel beep), fastened the seat belt started the engine and released the parking break(with the foot on the break). The pedal became softer and I started driving. After 300m, I picked up some speed and a huge rattle started. I stopped and cleared all the snow blocking the wheel arches.
Started driving again, same problem... I stopped at the gas station, inflated the tyres and left. The same rattle, very loud and it moves the entire car.
When I accelerate you barely feel it, but when I reach 30-35mph and stop accelerating the rattle and the sound becomes very loud.

I stopped in front of the house and took one of my mates for a drive, maybe if he hears it, he might have a clue.
Followed the same procedure at starting the car, same rattle. I got to the petrol station again, looked at the arches, did some more cleaning, the suspension seems fine.
The petrol station is uphill and I was concerned with the problem, started the car, moved 20m, I had to brake to give way and forgot to press the clutch and engine died.
I started it up again and I got the ESP error, followed by a short 2 second Electronic Parking Break error (it was the parking break sign and 2 lightnings on the side) and both disappeared.
I tried going backwards, the same problem. When I was coming back home, I accelerated to 40mph and the car was taking the corner to the left all by herself.
Parked the car, fired the laptop, started reading the forum... EPB might be stuck. Can be unstuck by applying the EPB while moving.
Got back to the car, started moving, pulled the handbrake the car stopped in a couple of meters, doing the annoying beep. Did this a couple of times, it still rattles.

I looked at this video: Electro-Mechanical Parking Brake (EPB), rear brake pad service - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHJMI4QkSy8) and it looks like a tricky job, but the worst part is Monday I have to go to London.
Now I have parked it on another street without the handbrake, just left in 1st gear.

I know it's a long post, but I am a noob and I try to be as explicit as possible.

Do you have any ideas guys? What can I do?
PLEASE HELP me!:aargh4::aargh4::aargh4:

[Guest 2]

You definitely need a fault code scan.

Paul Barls is in Birmingham and is a regular member - http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/member.php?161154-Paul-Barls

[Big.B]

I have sent a private message to Pigeon,tsunami and Paul, maybe one of them can help me, it looks like they live in birmingham, pretty close to me (don't want to risk bending the pads)
Thanks Chris for the fast response. If anyone had a similar problem and have any ideas, please let me know!

[Paul Barls]

I will read the codes this evening so they can be posted here.
I have sent a private message to Pigeon,tsunami and Paul, maybe one of them can help me, it looks like they live in birmingham, pretty close to me (don't want to risk bending the pads)
Thanks Chris for the fast response. If anyone had a similar problem and have any ideas, please let me know!

[Big.B]

I Want to thank Paul for driving to my house and reading the fault codes. Great guy, cheers mate!:beerchug:
After he left, went for a test drive, same problems.
He did not erase the fault codes, so I still have them on the computer.

I have deleted the No Fault ones, left just the problems...
If anyone can help, that would be greatly appreciated!

Here they are:

Sunday,24,March,2013,20:01:57:05809
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.5
Data version: 20121222
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Chassis Type: 4F0
Scan: 01 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 37 42 46 47 4F 52 53 56 61
62 72 76 77

VIN: Mileage: 229260km/142455miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 K HW: 4F0 614 517 K
Component: ESP 8.0 front H05 0090
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0020855
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 2C5DF6828F1D8678AD4

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 144
Mileage: 229264 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.03.23
Time: 19:27:40

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0100
Hex Value: 0x4012
Hex Value: 0x0003
Hex Value: 0x1661
Hex Value: 0x00FF




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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F HW: 4E0 035 111 A
Component: CD-Changer H44 0470
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ5ZBF8095053
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1C3D2642DFBD76F8DD4

1 Fault Found:
02261 - Data Medium
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101110
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 220880 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.14
Time: 20:21:19

Freeze Frame:
Text: 00000000


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 G HW: 4F0 907 289 G
Component: Komfortgeraet H22 0170
Revision: 01700022 Serial number: 01012348000000
Coding: 0000251
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 2E59FC8AB901F468830

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Part No: 4F0 910 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020

2 Faults Found:
01503 - Bulb for 3rd Brake Light (M25)
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 120
Mileage: 228897 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.02.23
Time: 17:56:43

01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 118
Mileage: 229015 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.03.05
Time: 20:09:55







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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 A HW: 4F0 907 801
Component: EPB CA3C0040 H03 0040
Revision: --H03---
Coding: 0000111
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 1E392C4AC9A164E8330

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 144
Mileage: 229264 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.03.23
Time: 19:27:45

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.53 V
Count: 236



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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000009814
Shop #: WSC 00502 210 01778
VCID: 234F1DBEE2C349001CE

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 C
Component: von VA0 1603300617
Coding: 344630393135313035432056413031363033333030363137
Shop #: WSC 00000 512 00290

5 Faults Found:
02272 - Quiescent Current Stage 1
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 14
Mileage: 224540 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.31
Time: 09:02:14

02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 6
Mileage: 224544 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.31
Time: 09:27:31

02276 - Quiescent Current Stage 5
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 224544 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.31
Time: 09:27:41

02274 - Quiescent Current Stage 3
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 224544 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.31
Time: 09:27:51

02277 - Quiescent Current Stage 6
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 224544 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.12.31
Time: 09:28:01

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[Guest 2]

Okay you seem to have a brake light out (high one), a failing battery, something wrong with your CD player, a failing alarm horn and obviously the handbrake problem.

00532 - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00532)

As the error only appears in the handbrake When found in an individual control module, it's most likely a local source (e.g. wiring/connectors).

[gupsterg]

Hi,

I don't think your CD/media player has anything wrong... that is just a media error... ie disc had a read error... its an old fault, fault frequency (occurrence) only 2...

Your battery IMO would need further checks to say failing... all the battery faults are happening on same day (31/12/2012), looking at the time stamps a drain must have been happening at that time and the battery regulation module started intervening... perhaps you were using electrical items without engine running? did that battery low sign come up in DIS?

As to bulb (M25), time stamp old (Date: 2013.02.23) Fault Frequency: 2... fault says an intermittent fault perhaps a connection loose?

Your alarm horn only 1 fault frequency... like fault says an intermittent fault.... time stamp = Date: 2013.03.05 Time: 20:09:55

These are the two things which IMO are related to your current issue...


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 K HW: 4F0 614 517 K
Component: ESP 8.0 front H05 0090
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0020855
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 2C5DF6828F1D8678AD4

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 144
Mileage: 229264 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.03.23
Time: 19:27:40

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0100
Hex Value: 0x4012
Hex Value: 0x0003
Hex Value: 0x1661
Hex Value: 0x00FF




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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 A HW: 4F0 907 801
Component: EPB CA3C0040 H03 0040
Revision: --H03---
Coding: 0000111
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 1E392C4AC9A164E8330

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 144
Mileage: 229264 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.03.23
Time: 19:27:45

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.53 V
Count: 236



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There is a thread which may have info will have a nose at it to see what it says... perhaps the original poster of that may see yours and chime in or another comment...

ATB
G

[Big.B]

I remember the battery problem on the 31/12, but I think it's fixed now as I did not have such issues since.

It's still the same problem with the brakes or whatever is happening: when driving, I can hear a lot of noise from the back, it's still pulling to the left.
Last night after Paul came by and read the codes, I followed a friend's advice and put some hot water on all 4 wheels, but no luck.

I will call the RAC tomorrow and see how it goes. The only mystery for me is: in the morning it had no problems, when I left work in the evening sounded like the entire back part was ripped apart and put back with duck tape.

Thank you guys for the help, but before I work on the break lights or see what's wrong with the battery, I need to get this fixed.

[gupsterg]

The thread I thought which may help is not the same fault as yours :Blush2: ...

Did a bit of googling for "ABS Brakes 00532 - Supply Voltage B+" ... varied posts/info, some read it could be a corroded fuse, malfunctioning relay, etc,etc... you'd need to check things like that... as faults says 1 Fault Found: 00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent its a lack of voltage its detecting IMO...

Module 03: ABS Brakes is logging fault first... module 53: Parking Brake is registering fault after, going by the time stamps...

So going by how you say car pulling to the left have you jacked up car and checked if wheels are locking? even without jacking up discs must be hotter on side which locking occurring...

Try a PM to A8 Tech... sorry no more info :Blush2: ...

[Big.B]

There is no fault on the car...
They tried to steal my wheels, took down all the bolts, got to the locking one, could not open it, so they left with 1 bold and did not screw the rest back, just gave them a few twists. They tried it on all 4 of them, so that is why the entire car was shaking and pulling to the left.

Lucky me, there's no problem with the breaks, but I am worried of what could have happened if the wheels came off while I was driving as they were hold securely only in 1 bolt.
That day I parked on Broad Street, one of the main roads in Birmingham City Center.

Would you advise me to call the police, maybe they have cameras in that area?
Anyway, thank you very much: Gupsterg, Chris, Paul !

[_Tazman_]

glad to hear that you got to the root of the problem bud, shame to hear the little scroats have tried to rob the wheels....

I hate them' lot !

I was almost about to post, that you really need to get a wheel off & have a visual, as it may have been self evident...

I would say that you still need to check the inner arch liners & check the disc face for any chattering / od wear marks, as the wheels may have been bashing your hub faces pretty hard !

I would also say that you should replace the 2 rear locking wheel bolts & check their threads as they would have taken a hammering & are probably slightly damaged.

Glad you are ok though :beerchug:

[Big.B]

My car kind of returned to the same problem and last Friday, right before leaving from Bham to Luton, I got the flashing lights on the handbrake and although it wasn't on, the car could not leave. After a few tries, the brake was released and the error disappeared. Got home safe, the drive was a charm and Tuesday, same problem.
I have the Gold insurance for 2 years with Autoprotect, so I gave them a call and they advised me to take it to Halfords, as they have a contract with them.
Left the car there yesterday, called me today, they fixed it everything is fine, changed the left side caliper on insurance.
Got there: "we are sorry sir, but you can't have the car, as we did not managed to fix it and it might break out of nowhere."
Pads are wearing thin as well and they recommended me changing the discs + pads, 200 pounds, as they are not covered by insurance because it's wear and tear.

Can I get away cheaper with the discs+pads? Does anyone know where can I buy them from or a cheaper service in Birmingham?
I found Pagid 245mm, 30 quid on ebay, the entire set, but the manager at Halfords told me I need 305mm? I thought the A6 has the same ones like Superb and Passat...

[Guest 2]

have a look here for users who have used pagid Pads need replacing - would anybody recommend Pagid? (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?141085-Pads-need-replacing-would-anybody-recommend-Pagid&highlight=pagid)