juddering TD130 Golf

**tincanman** · 13-05-2007,08:24 PM

i've noticed that my td 130 pd mk4 golf has started juddering. this happens when the engine is under load, ie accelerating. it becomes noticable in 3rd gear from 1900rpm through to 2800rpm when it will pull through 4,5,6 are the same.
any ideas anybody....

**shooey88** · 13-05-2007,08:39 PM

be more descriptive...is it the car juddering or the engine or the running gear/clutch gearbox........

if it isnt an egnine judder ie misfire id wait to see if it has logged a fault when worsens.....id suspect the flywheel as a possible cause if a mechanical fault!!!!!!!!

**tincanman** · 14-05-2007,04:22 PM

the juddering seems comming from the engine. it dose feel like a misfire but runs fine at a constant throttle within the affected rev range.
now done around 350 mls since first noticed, not getting any worse. but will come in every time you load up the engine in 3,4,5,6th gear

**shooey88** · 14-05-2007,07:21 PM

if its an engine misfire....check to see if there any electrical faults with a suitable vagcom. a common fault being injector problems. if no faults are registered then look at mechanical faults that wouldnt cause a log. ie fuel filter-has it been changed with service intervals? also does the flywheel have play is a common fault.
air mass meter is the first thjing you should try if it lack performance..so disconnect it and see if performance improves....if it negatively gets worse then air mass ok..if no change then possibly air mass meter fault.
all suggestions for u..ok?

**birdy1974** · 15-05-2007,08:01 AM

i have a 99 golf tdi 90 bhp. When I am about to come to a stop, even if i put the car in neutral, the car makes a juddering noise as if it is about to stall, and then as i completely stop it goes quiet again. It is alright from 5th down to 2nd when slowing, and only does this when coming to a complete stop. I changed the mass airflow censor which seemed to improve the cars speed, but it seems to have gone slower since. Any ideas?. cheers

**shooey88** · 15-05-2007,10:59 AM

yes....iv read a report from VW that the pump timing out of synch causes this juddering when slowing down.
have you had a cambelt done? that has altered or effected ur timing?

**laleanne1** · 15-05-2007,11:15 AM

Hi

My last golf did exactly the same a while back, now I don’t know much about cars or how they work but I do remember this as it cost me just under £1000 to fix, what had happened is either the top or something from the spark plug had fallen off into the engine and was wearing it away, at first when it would start to judder I just thought it was they tyres or something that needed adjusting (yes I am a girl). But one night driving on the motorway it started to judder really bad and then the power cut out.

I had everything checked like if the engine was backfiring (whatever that means) but once in the garage the fault was found and because this bloody cap from the spark plug has been wearing away at the engine I needed a new engine, so I would advise anyone if the car is juddering get it checked ASAP as it cost me an arm and a leg.

**tincanman** · 15-05-2007,10:02 PM

thanks for your suggesrtions,
however car is runs fine slowing down, it had a major service last september including a new cambelt. got it booked in at the local vw for a diagnostic check hopfully they will be able to sort it.

**shooey88** · 16-05-2007,12:13 PM

if its happened since recently after the cambelt id be inclined to say the pump iming is out..as on them engines everyone tends to get the pump timing different and can get it way out.

**tincanman** · 22-05-2007,08:41 PM

went into the garage to get checked out, the diognostic check came out ok. they seem to think that the duel mess flywheel is causing the vibration. anybody else heard of this??????