Tyres destroyed on inside wall

[Sumpy467]

Hi, can anyone shed any light on this one?

My car is going through tyres every 6 mths (10k miles). Each time it's the inside wall which is de-laminating/wearing down to the breads, there's still a good 4+mm of tread left and they wear evenly. They are the 9 spoke RS4 alloys (but I suspect they are third party copies as the groove on the shoulder of the spoke doesn 't run down the length of the spoke. (?))

I've gone through 3 pairs on the front and a set on the rear. Each time I've had the tracking checked, and had 4 wheel alignment done last year: this was miles out originally. But very minor adjustments since.

I've tried differing the tyres pressures and avoiding the speed bumps on the way home (the square ones that don't cover the full width of road). I've had a good look round the suspension etc and found nothing untoward.

Has anyone got any suggestions, it's driving me crazy Cheers.

[kite]

Buckled wheels maybe.....

[bez101]

what tyres are u useing

[Martin F]

Go some where else more competent for your alignment.

[rhencullen1989]

Mine was doing the same, 3 - 4 mm of tread over most of the tyre, then on the very inside edge was showing the cords!!!, i had a 4 wheel alignment done at the main audi dealership, £89 all in including any adjustments.

They found the toe was out on the fronts and also the camber angle on the left front wheel was out (this was also the one with the worse wear) its about 0.6 degrees out of limit, and they have put it down to either bent top ally arms or a bent hub carrier, not drastic as i can do both myself, but i am going to run it for a while and see how the tyres wear, afterall the toe angle was also a long way out.

Have yours checked again by a competent garage, my car also does a fair bit of tight manouvering, in and out of driveway, parking spaces etc, this could also have something to do with inside tyre wear.

[Sumpy467]

Thanks for the replies.

I'm running Goodyear Eagle F1's 225 40R18. Used to have budget tyres but went for the Goodyears last time to see if it was just poor quality tyres.

(rhencullen1989) -Did the dealership actually find a fault with the top arm or hub? Sounds very similar to what I'm experiencing, having the alignment done on Tuesday with another set of fronts I'll ask them to check the arms and bushes etc. while its on the ramps.

I go to Apex in P'boro, after very good feedback. Plus I think its the only place here that can do 4 wheel alignment.

Cheers.

[pebblypuss]

Strange this, that's the second time in a week someone has pre-empted the forum with an issue I'm having too.
My fronts had worn the outer corner of the tyre one inch or so. Totally bald, so I dropped it into ATS where they stuck a laser alignment jig on the front and announced it in spec. While we had the car on the ramp they showed me the inner edges worn to the threads. Not good.
These are Michelin Sport pilot II's and the pair on the front had been new on the back about a year ago and were moved to the front when I bought new 'front' tyres about 3 months ago. So most of their life (20k miles) they've been on the back. I initially changed that pair on the rear because the outer edge had gone bald, but didn't know the history of the tyres up to that point so wasn't sure where that wear had come from.

In the last week or so with the wet weather I've noticed that near full lock in car parks for example the car is literally skidding round corners - you can really hear and feel the car failing to keep the line. It just feels worse these days than it has before. On the open road it has no issues with handling/grip at all. I'm gonna drop it into my local Audi guys next week if only to make them reset the service clock which has been dropping a 100 miles (but still 419 days) from the next due date every time I turn the ignition key. Time to go fixed service intervals I think.

Mark.

Mine was doing the same, 3 - 4 mm of tread over most of the tyre, then on the very inside edge was showing the cords!!!, i had a 4 wheel alignment done at the main audi dealership, £89 all in including any adjustments.

They found the toe was out on the fronts and also the camber angle on the left front wheel was out (this was also the one with the worse wear) its about 0.6 degrees out of limit, and they have put it down to either bent top ally arms or a bent hub carrier, not drastic as i can do both myself, but i am going to run it for a while and see how the tyres wear, afterall the toe angle was also a long way out.

Have yours checked again by a competent garage, my car also does a fair bit of tight manouvering, in and out of driveway, parking spaces etc, this could also have something to do with inside tyre wear.

[nanafagis]

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread so please keep us updated if anybody finds out causes. I too have gone through 7 tyres in under a year, all worn on the insides or blown out. The scary thing is how difficult it is to notice with it being on the inside edge. My car is also on 19"s so i know how expensive it is to replace the goodyears!

I've had 4wd alignment checked, camber, toe in whatever that is and they made a few slight adjustments. Just had suspension and the underneath checked in my last service and was told all is ok there.

Since then one tyre tore on the inside edge BUT i think (hope) it was already punctured as it had a piece of metal in it.

Maybe the 4wd checks have sorted things, maybe not. I've only done 2000 miles on these tyres so will know in another 2000 or so as theyve only been lasting 4000miles a pair!

Just a thought does your car seem to crunch the tyres at low speeds when turning or setting off from a standstill? (feels a bit like ABS on snow) Mine's either got a fault or maybe that's just a trait of the quattro system.

Like i say please keep us informed if any solutions are found and i'll do likewise!

Cheers

[bez101]

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread so please keep us updated if anybody finds out causes. I too have gone through 7 tyres in under a year, all worn on the insides or blown out. The scary thing is how difficult it is to notice with it being on the inside edge. My car is also on 19"s so i know how expensive it is to replace the goodyears!

I've had 4wd alignment checked, camber, toe in whatever that is and they made a few slight adjustments. Just had suspension and the underneath checked in my last service and was told all is ok there.

Since then one tyre tore on the inside edge BUT i think (hope) it was already punctured as it had a piece of metal in it.

Maybe the 4wd checks have sorted things, maybe not. I've only done 2000 miles on these tyres so will know in another 2000 or so as theyve only been lasting 4000miles a pair!

Just a thought does your car seem to crunch the tyres at low speeds when turning or setting off from a standstill? (feels a bit like ABS on snow) Mine's either got a fault or maybe that's just a trait of the quattro system.

Like i say please keep us informed if any solutions are found and i'll do likewise!

Cheers

7 tryes and all checks out have u checked the wheels fitment iv had this on aftermarket wheels b4 i did all that u guys have done then put my 17's oem back on had the wheels checked and its was a fault on the wheel where it bolts up kjust a thought

[rhencullen1989]

The scuffing you are experiencing on near full lock i.e when pulling out of your driveway etc is caused by the tyres sort of scuffing/skipping, i personally don't think this is a problem and is to do with the sheer width of the tyres (mine are standard 235) i think you will notice it more when the weather is colder like today (i put this down to the rubber being stiffer when colder) also it seems worse when the tyres are fairly worn compared to new ones.

I know several friends who's audi a4's do this and they think the same as me.

I also think that a lot of this slow hard turning could be something to do with the inside wear, but i could be proved wrong. My wife drives my quattro and its mainly used for small journeys and lots of parking! (mainly at expensive shopping centres!!!!!!!!!!)