Golf 1.4 TSI (122) or 1.6 TDI (105)

[samiur100]

Both will be SE spec and DSG. My first time i will be driving an auto, but all reviews sound good about DSG. Is the 1.4 TSI (122) good with a full load in the car? 1.6 TDI is off putting due to the 0-60 figures. Has anyone got either of these engines at the moment, if so would you care to give you view on the engines.

Thanks,

Sam

[samiur100]

Also whats the best colour in this golf? and can you opt in for fogs on the SE model?

[p3asa]

Page 10 onwards shows you what you can and can't add.

[percymon]

What are your expectations for fuel economy, and performance ?

TSi122 owners are reporting 40-44mpg overall, which they find disappointing, TDi105 owners 55+ mpg.

0-60 is one thing, 30-50 and 40-60 are real world situations and the figures that are most important. The TDi is by far the car for the lazy driver, not wanting to change gear too much, the TSi for those that like to stretch the rev range.

I would imagine the DSG gearbox fitted to a TDi would be forever changing gear, not always for the better acceleration.

Why do you want an auto ? DSG is just another thing to potentially go wrong !

[p3asa]

The TDi is by far the car for the lazy driver, not wanting to change gear too much,

Percymon, not if my TDi and others are anything to go by. The gearing is so unforgivable.
I've found you have to be in the right gear for the right speed or it just stalls. It gives no leeway.

I was coming down my street the other night in 3rd doing about 25mph, got to the bottom of it where there was a bend and a car coming round it. I braked slightly then stuck it into 2nd and the car had died.

Similarly at roundabouts junctions etc, you really need to put it into 1st as it will die in 2nd or really really struggle.

[iallen1@btinter]

my tsi does 55mpg on a run, my old man keeps stalling his diesel, my tsi flys

[samiur100]

Does the 1.4 tsi run well on motorway? Can you feel that there is a turbo on this engine?

IF we ignore the MPG on both engines? which engine is actually better to drive with? Also manual vs DSG, i am not sure which to go for!

I had the 2.0 GT TDI (140) recently for 2 weeks, and that was one hell of a car. Unfortunately the scheme il be gettin the car on doesn't allow me to have that spec, so i have to settle for 1.4tsi or 1.6tdi.

and there i was thinking buying a used car was a pain!

[ross980]

Does the 1.4 tsi run well on motorway? Can you feel that there is a turbo on this engine?

In the TSI the engine is at 2400rpm at 70mph and is very quiet and refined. There's plenty of torque available and the engine pulls happily from 55mph. At motorway speeds it's definitely nowhere near as quick as 2 litre diesels cars (Mondeo, Mazda 6, 607 etc.) I've driven, but is probably quicker than the 1.6 TDCi Focus we have at work (which I guess has similar performance to a 1.6D Golf).

Personally I'd be sceptical of the 'my car does 55mpg on a run' comment though, unless the journey is downhill, wind assisted or doesn't exceed 50 mph. I think as an average, that figure is unachievable at anything approaching motorway speeds.

I've found 48-49mpg is achievable if the cruise control is set to 65-70. When you start doing 75-80 the mpg drops off pretty quickly to mid to low 40s.

[Woodmaster]

I agree. Around town driving fairly consistently in stop/start traffic I'm getting an average of 35mpg. On a motorway journey at an average speed of 70 I get about 44mpg.

Not as good as my last car, a diesel, but not bad for a 1.4 turbo pushing around a fairly heavy car.

[HHGTTG]

I agree. Around town driving fairly consistently in stop/start traffic I'm getting an average of 35mpg. On a motorway journey at an average speed of 70 I get about 44mpg.

Not as good as my last car, a diesel, but not bad for a 1.4 turbo pushing around a fairly heavy car.

I think that, ultimately, my car's fuel consumption will turn out to be no better or worse than my MK5 with its 1.6FSI engine, although the new TSI engine has more torque available, thank goodness.