Went to my local VW dealer in Newcastle (Benfield) last night, enquiring about the Scirocco GT 140TDI (I think 170 is overpriced, and not worth £950 more for what is essentially a remap).

Having a test drive in one on Sunday (would like to see how much smoother the CR unit feels than my 170TDI PD Golf, and also how much slower it feels).

Got the usual blurb about them only having 28 allocated this year (was that a pre-emptive "no way i'll give you a discount on the Scirocco"?).

Have armed myself with the brokers prices for the Scirocco, and also the true value of my 57 reg 3 door Golf GT Sport 170TDI (valued at 11 grand P/X for Sept by another branch of the same dealer).

If I can't get £1600-£1700 off the new list and the full P/X price for the Golf then i'll call their bluff and wait.

Anyone had any recent experiences with negotiating a Scirocco discount or reluctance of the dealership to do so?

When I was enquiring a few months ago, I was given the impression that they could discount one they'd grabbed off the computer system that was either a "floater" or one that another dealership had been allocated but didn't want, but no discount on their own allocated stock.

They had a 160 1.4TSI in there. That looked good, why won't they do that in a GT trim? Could be tempted by that with the GT wheels if the TDI feels a little weak.