3.0 TDi Quattro Brakes

**Terry S** · 15-11-2008,09:52 PM

Guys the brakes on my B7 aren't great. Does anyone know of good uprated pads (I have found EBC but remain unconvinced) and if not what other models run the same front/rear calipers as the 3.0 TDi, and any easy uprgrades?

**KQuattro** · 16-11-2008,05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Terry S

Guys the brakes on my B7 aren't great. Does anyone know of good uprated pads (I have found EBC but remain unconvinced) and if not what other models run the same front/rear calipers as the 3.0 TDi, and any easy uprgrades?

I totally agree Terry the brakes are not the best, not many places do uprated discs and pads for this I found it very hard to get any so went with standard pads.

I think the pads and discs are same on A5 3.0 tdis....

EBC supposed to be decent but could only find redstuff pads which are meant to speak like mad....

maybe wait a bit longer for some more companies to produce pads for this model or maybe get from America....?

Or mayeb do a complete brake upgrade for a set of Porsche Caynne calipers and discs, supposed to go on without much trouble.

Ray

**Terry S** · 17-11-2008,09:33 AM

Thanks ray, I am tempted to try the EBC pads and see. I am about to put some EBC yellow stuff's on a Supra I am selling so I will try those to see just how noisy they are.

I did find over the weekend a company in the US doing a disc upgrade to 345mm if I can find the link again.

**Terry S** · 17-11-2008,09:40 AM

Found it
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/...%20Brake%20OEM

**KQuattro** · 17-11-2008,12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Terry S

Found it
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/...%20Brake%20OEM

Terry they look quality and lighter too.

So those are designed to work with out standard calipers then ?

Do you think that the poor breaking on our 3.0TDI is more to do with the actual discs and pads rather then the caliper itself ?

The caliper is fairly big standard ?

Ray

**Terry S** · 17-11-2008,12:15 PM

Originally Posted by KQuattro

Terry they look quality and lighter too.

So those are designed to work with out standard calipers then ?

Do you think that the poor breaking on our 3.0TDI is more to do with the actual discs and pads rather then the caliper itself ?

The caliper is fairly big standard ?

Ray

Yeah the kit looks as if it uses the stock front calipers. It may well be the caliper Ray, but that is an expensive route so I will probably try pads first as they can make a dramatic difference. To be honest 321mm is not a bad size front disc, but the rear look pretty small. I may also change the hoses to braided and the fluid in the hope of a better pedal.

**KQuattro** · 17-11-2008,01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Terry S

Yeah the kit looks as if it uses the stock front calipers. It may well be the caliper Ray, but that is an expensive route so I will probably try pads first as they can make a dramatic difference. To be honest 321mm is not a bad size front disc, but the rear look pretty small. I may also change the hoses to braided and the fluid in the hope of a better pedal.

Let me know how it goes with the pads....

**toff** · 22-12-2008,12:46 AM

The 3.0's brakes are fine for most everyday situations.. but hard breaking leaves a lot to be desired!

I notice that on the link (that KQuattro posted) the kit actually includes OEM Audi brackets:

Does that mean if you buy those OEM brackets and OEM S4 discs - you effectively have the S4 set-up?
I presume the brake servo wouldn't need to be upgraded (as you're using the same calipers)?

I guess it's just a question of leverage - the further from the centre of the wheel the pads bite the disk; the move stopping power they have!

Al.

**KQuattro** · 23-12-2008,06:25 PM

Quick word regarding EBC brake pads, a friend of mine had some Red stuff pads put on and they were totally useless for normal road driving conditions. The Red stuff pads under normal road driving conditions do not generate enough heat for optimum pad performance, they are fine for the track. We put the OEM pads in and they were a lot better for everyday driving.

**toff** · 26-12-2008,02:51 PM

EBC do make "Green Stuff" pads for fast-road use, but I don't rate them either..

I used them on my Golf - After about a year, I ended up with tiny deposits of copper on my brake discs which lead to a weird shuddering sensation when braking. I didn't figure this out myself - Danny Withrow of RSD pointed out what the problem was. He was a member of VW's rally team support, so I trust his judgement!

I swapped to Brembos after that

Al.

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