stock tdi 130pd vs remapped tdi100pd

[gbrad2x]

Anybody driven a remapped 100tdi pd and a stock 130tdi pd? Which is quicker? Was just curious.....

What are the differences? I know the 100pd is noiser and a good bit slower at stock ...

[STEWY L]

Anybody driven a remapped 100tdi pd and a stock 130tdi pd? Which is quicker? Was just curious.....

What are the differences? I know the 100pd is noiser and a good bit slower at stock ...

i have driven what i believed to be a 110 pdi,as a company car,a few years back, and was very impressed with both perfomance,and economy.
only had,whatever it was,for a few weeks, but later on,when looking to change my astra 1.4 est,searched the internet,dealers,indys, and found my present car,"stanley"a 2001 bora pd130 sport,in reflex silver(very soft paint), but love it to smithereens.
it goes well, it is economical, and it is reliable.
what you need to be aware of,while tuning companies will promise increased performance, each increment in performance will decrease the life of your clutch/engine.
if they say 25% increase in bhp,that will bring you to 125bhp on your 100
stock, still below the 130, but i hasten to add,the difference you will see/feel will be in the torque, nm,not the bhp.
this is where you need to think long and hard.
the 130 pd(ASZ) engine has the same block and cylinder head as the 150(ARL), but i believe has a less turbo, and a side mounted intercooler,with i would have thought,a different ecu map.
three thousand people are now going to come in and tell me where i am wrong, which is what our forum is all about, but what i'm trying to say is,
mapping your 100pd , won't give you a 130pd..
best go out,if you can, and get a 130. you wouldn't feel the need to remap it.
best regards,
stewy.

[Col]

three thousand people are now going to come in and tell me where i am wrong, which is what our forum is all about

Nope sounds good.

I reckon a mapped 100 should feel and drive like a std 130.

As Stewy has said though, the clutch may suffer.

[gbrad2x]

I HAVE the 130pd 6 speed but cheers neways lads.... And it puts out 145 on the rr! Was just wondering if anybody had driven a stock 130 and remapped 100 and compared the 2.

Was thinking about a sachs clutch and vnt 20 turbo for my pd 130 along with a custom remap, what you guys think?
Should push near the 200 bhp mark at that rate! and then 400 + nm of stick to the seat torque.... Will cost a good bit to do tho..

You got any mods yourselves for you bora?

Cheers for the input

[Bora me Golf]

Hi guys....

Just be cautious when remapping a 130..... the tourque on this engine after a remap is far above what the duel mass flywheel is happy with.... a clutch thats been in the car a while will not stand the extra abuse for long before slipping... im talkin about a large increase, 190bhp 400nm + of tourque.... basically, the clutch and flywheel will have the friction of a couple of sheets of glass.... a good tip though is in the low gears, feed the power rather than boot it....

having said that, after 10,000 miles and having resisted the temptation (most of the time) of caning the car in the low gears the new clutch has stood the extra power.... time will tell i guess.... it is nice tho when the lil boyz in their pocket rockets just get a glimpse of a tdi badge while they get left stood at traffic lights......

[speed12]

Cant agree more,

The clutch/ flywheel combo is the only part i am concerned about wth my remapped 130. I think the rest of the components should be ok providiing regular services and long life oil.

I had my 130 mapped to 170 (approx 384Nm of torque), im not certain of the milage since, but it was a good 3-4 months ago now. Likewise i tend to feed the power, with the occassional booting to clear the pipes, so far no problems with the clutch, though im holding some money for when it does go....

When it does go i guess i will upgrade the clutch plate etc, but use a standard flywheel, as i understand it, its the heat generated during clutch slip that kills the DMF?

[gbrad2x]

did you stick an oem or uprated clutch into her? i wouldnt be going to 190BHP without the help of the vnt20 turbo in the 2.5tdi. The stock 130 turbo is good to do 170 safely but after that you would be pushing it beyond its safe limits and when you push up the revs you are threading on thin ice especially if car has over 100k.....

If an uprated clutch is fitted Im guessing the stock DMF will be ok after remap?... Can any or the forums experts confirm that this would be the case?

The only uprated flywheel I came accross was a lighter single solid one by sachs and Im told this is not good for the gearbox and driveshaft due to the vibration casued from not having a dual mass....

IM half thinking I wont bother remapping after all. The previous tdi 100pd I had was fine to remap without any mods...Not the case with the pd 130 it seems but thats understandable as its only a 1.9L 8v engine at the end of the day... and a bloddy good one at that!!

Was thinking my next car will be the mightY 2.0 tdi 170... Drove one and they go like a stabbed rat, not far off the performance of the 2.0l turbo FSI and way better MPG ....

[Bora me Golf]

in my case, the clutch itself never failed, although very shiny... it was the dmf that failed.... replaced the lot anyway...

cheepest i could do it parts n labour... clutch, DMF, concentric realese bearing, labour etc 590 beer tokens

[gbrad2x]

in my case, the clutch itself never failed, although very shiny... it was the dmf that failed.... replaced the lot anyway...

cheepest i could do it parts n labour... clutch, DMF, concentric realese bearing, labour etc 590 beer tokens

ANd were you driving the rocks out of it or what? Were you flooring it at low rpms before the turbo got into its stride?

[Bora me Golf]

ANd were you driving the rocks out of it or what? Were you flooring it at low rpms before the turbo got into its stride?

You could say i was a little over enthusiastic.... sure you can emagine getting out of a 130bhp car and getting into 190 bhp car.... but taking into consideration that the original clutch/flywheel had done 75000 miles.... the extra power was probly enuff to kill it.... saying that, now done 10000 miles and no probs... you also have to realise its not just the bhp that causes these hiccups..... its the tourqe....

there is a quote kicking around somewhere..."horse power sells cars..... torque wins races"... not really relevent here but i like it anyway.....