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    Quote Originally Posted by ctucker5145 View Post
    I just had the same problem, I had to get a nut mig welded to the existing nut then remove them in the normal way. It took the workshop literally three miniutes to weld and remove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HGTTDI View Post
    Hi - My locking wheel nut key/socket broke whilst trying to undo an over tightened nut. I've removed locking wheel nuts in the past with sockets but... these ones have rotating shrouds on them. (VW Sport Rader)

    Can any one advise me on how to remove them.

    Any help would be much appreciated - - Cheers guys!

    (I'm not a mechanic or anything, so dont have things like mig welders.. local tyre bay suggested fusing the shroud and nut together... but easier said than done)

    I've just been playing with a set of massively overtightened security (and regular) bolts for the last couple of days after discovering I couldn't get bolt out of a wheel with a puncture to fit the spare until I get to somewhere to have it fixed. Trying to release the the wiggly-patterned security bolt messed up both it and the key.

    I got a replacement key which I firstly used to try and release the other three wheels. One came off easily as it had been attended to by AA in the past year, and one with massive difficulty which therefore damaged the new key in the same way as the original - twisting the raised pattern so it tends to slip from the bolt. Which is exactly what happened using it with a 2' breaker bar on the 3rd bolt. I went to a friend's workshop where the damaged key on an pneumatic impact driver was still able to remove the 3rd bolt.

    The 4th bolt to do was the one with the puncture that I'd by now tried various things to try and get out, so it was in a fairly sorry state. What worked was the idea above: MIG weld shroud to actual bolt, then whack a 22mm 12-point socket over it to use with the impact wrench. No idea if the breaker bar would have got it off.

    The security bolt and shroud were highly resistant to my home toolbox attempts, and overall I made things worse. If I'd have realised how slow the original puncture was and just topped it up until I got to the workshop all would have probably been well, so if you're reading this looking for ideas just go somewhere with proper tools.

    Having said that, part of my problem was that the bolt head was fully recessed into the wheel. I did find a Dremel cutting disc would slice the shroud, but I couldn't get deep enough into it without cutting into the alloy wheel. If I had been able to cut and smash the shroud off (which I think some wheel designs allow access to do) then a socket or reverse-thread nut remover might have worked on the actual bolt.
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