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    Nothing to report really, but I removed relay 30 last night, but couldn't see anything amiss (soldering wise) so I am going to replace it anyway, that is as long as I don't have a heart attack when they tell me how much the relays cost.
    The relay number is 165 906 381 - exactly the same as Scottys in the photos.
    Anyone know a good source for these things?
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    Hi Spike,

    I think they are approx £11 from the dealer. I know it was my idea to check,but maybe before you buy one, you could check out the wiring connections at the back of the alternator? I read the 'Similar Threads', (at the very bottom of this page) it seems this problem can happen to many VAG cars for different reasons!
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    Thanks for that Scotty - yeh I see what you mean. I'll have a look round and see if I can find owt. Don't mind paying for the relay if it fixes the problem, but...... if it don't.. We'll see what happens.
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    Hi guys, I know this is an old thread but I'm having the same problem with my 1993 2.0 16v coupe, I have looked under the dash and the 2 relays I have are no 343 the big rectangular one and no 217, is this right or has it been messed about?

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    I'm fairly sure the 16v does not have the relay '30' which can be so temperamental.
    I don't know the cause of this problem, but poor condition earth wiring can cause problems, it may be a waste of time but no harm in giving the earths a check?

    rereading some of the similar threads at the bottom of the screen, it seems alternator gremlins are quite likely!
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    Cheers I had heard that the 16v's might not be the same but thought it best to find out. Will try the earth and alternator.

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    I originally replied to this thread in on 16 July 2008, saying that I was waiting to see if the new Relay 30 which I installed had cured the problem.

    Unfortunately it didn't and, having given up on the efforts of a so called Audi specialist who kept on fitting new oil sensor gauges, I went to my Audi Main Dealer in Liverpool, the best move I ever made. The main dealer was initially at a loss to determine exactly what was causing the problem but worked very hard on my behalf.

    The main dealer contacted Milton Keynes, the problem was then passed on to Audi Head Office in Germany who then came back with the solution.

    According to Audi, this problem related to the hall sender within the distributor.

    In the event of signal loss, the rev counter drops and the oil warning lightsystem is activated.

    I had a new distributor fitted and the problem was solved, with no recurrence of the problem for the last three and a half years.

    This was a welcome solution to one of the most frustraing of problems.

    Ive been using the Audi Main Dealer ever since which has been a breath of fresh air from wasted trips to the so called specialist.

    Hope this helps

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    Chris,
    Thanks for coming back with this information, I guess your car is the 8v having Relay 30?
    I don't doubt what your saying but am confused by it. As I understand it the Hall sender also functions as the crankshaft position sensor. Without this signal the 4cyl engines cut out - or so I thought???
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    Thanks for all the tips on this thread. The replacement of the 30 relay on my Audi Cab 2.0E ABK sorted out the rev counter issue. It caused mayhem (juddering etc) and gradually worsened, although when I inspected the original relay, I could not spot any dry joints. The car also cut out occasionally when warm. It seems settled at the moment following an ignition timing and tune up, but was ticking over quite low with oil pressure light remaining on for a slightly longer period than might otherwise be a comfortable time after starting. The alternator wiring seems fine. I'll be carefully monitoring the car in case I have any further running issues - the hall sender mention above is useful - I'll keep a close eye on things. Thanks again to all who commented as this may have been a post more than 10 years ago, but it has been immensely helpful.
     
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