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  1. Re: Touran 2.0TDI BMN cranks, no start 
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    Done the rpm test. It correlate with the dash and VCDS but it's a bit low, Right under 300rpm. Also checked if there is fuel flow to and from the fuel filter, clear diesel flow.
    Tried to log the rpm test, can try to share it here if that's somewhat helpful

    7F-Inform. Electr. II -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100 that one is new, never had that show up before

    Code:
    Thursday,18,April,2024,18:23:26:55162
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
    VCDS Version: 23.11.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
    Data version: 20240322 DS351.0
    
    
    
    
    
    
    VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ8W092672   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 277950km-172710mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1T (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 18 19 25 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56
              62 69 72 77 7D 7F
    
    
    VIN: WVGZZZ1TZ8W092672   Mileage: 277950km-172710miles
    
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    7F-Inform. Electr. II -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
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    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-018-BMN.clb
       Part No SW: 03G 906 018 EH    HW: 03G 906 018 EH
       Component: R4 2.0l PPD1.2 G    1183  
       Revision: --H42---    Serial number: VWX7Z0GN3N61E3
       Coding: 0000078
       Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
       VCID: 6FBBD2CA5B907BD2C69-803A
       VINID: 9E65EAAAA064A889C02421870830C595C5
    
    
    2 Faults Found:
    005269 - Switch-Over Valve for EGR Cooler (N345) 
                   P1495 - 009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01010100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 6
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 277953 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:41:10
    
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Torque: 0.0 Nm
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                            0.00 %
                        Voltage: 11.64 V
                        Mass Air / Rev.: 932.0 mg/str
                        Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str
    
    
    000258 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
                   P0102 - 007 - Signal too Low
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11010010
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 6
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 277953 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:41:10
    
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Torque: 0.0 Nm
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                            0.00 %
                        Voltage: 11.64 V
                        Mass Air / Rev.: 932.0 mg/str
                        Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str
    
    
    Readiness: N/A
    
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
       Part No SW: 02E 300 050 C    HW: 02E 927 770 AE
       Component: GSG DSG         081 1402  
       Revision: 04608010    Serial number: 00000710171681
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 127DBB3E2862F63A897-8046
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
       Revision: 00H11001    
       Coding: 0023238
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 73B3DEBA37B85F32221-8026
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 CJ    HW: 1K0 907 044 CJ
       Component: ClimatronicPQ35 130 1212  
       Revision: 00130022    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       VCID: 71BFD4B24DA46D22D0D-8024
    
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00402 - Auxiliary Air Heater Element (Z35) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
                014 - Defective
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000007797906
       Coding: EB088F2100040F0047120C0000000000000A73075C000100000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 71BFD4B24DA46D22D0D-8024
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 261007 021  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 01324  
    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
       Component: RLS     280608 046  0204  
       Coding: 00208933
       Shop #: WSC 01324  
    
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00483 - Control Module for Auxiliary Air Heater 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 184
                        Mileage: 277953 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2005.09.13
                        Time: 31:63:63
    
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 12.25 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 1K0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 919 475     HW: 1K0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE     005 1104  
       Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 0 263 004 193 
       Coding: 010101
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 6FBBD2CA57907BD2C69-803A
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 D    HW: 1T0 909 605 D
       Component: 04 AIRBAG VW8   021 0100  
       Revision: 02021000    Serial number: 003B9D06UXV7  
       Coding: 0012340
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 363527AE644A0A1AC5F-8062
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332QSME445C3265G
    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342QSME4273286DL
    
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME3A614E0DS
    
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME42627745F
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ    HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
       Component: J0527           636 0070  
       Coding: 0012022
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 015F84727D047DA220D-8054
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           002 0010
    
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 1T0 920 874 A    HW: 1T0 920 874 A
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GN3N61E3
       Coding: 0007101
       Shop #: WSC 00610 218 182065
       VCID: 34311DA67236180AFBB-8060
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-815-007.clb
       Part No: 5K0 963 272 E
       Component: Standheizer     043 4709  
       Revision: 00043000    Serial number: 09021534000000
       Coding: 0031012
       Shop #: WSC 36127 001 1048576
       VCID: 323D1BBE8822163AE97-8066
    
    
    3 Faults Found:
    02251 - Heater Unit Locked 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 28
                        Mileage: 272063 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    01406 - No Flame 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 8
                        Reset counter: 54
                        Mileage: 271788 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Start
                        Temperature: 31.0 C
                        Temperature: 27.0 C
                        Voltage: 14.09 V
    
    
    02456 - Line Filling 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100101
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 27
                        Mileage: 272030 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052  
       Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 011107F2001333
       Coding: EDA17F56500E228002
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 303911B6862E242A9F3-8064
    
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00483 - Control Module for Auxiliary Air Heater 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 184
                        Mileage: 277953 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:55:46
    
    
    03163 - Control Module for Information Electronics 2 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 184
                        Mileage: 277953 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:55:49
    
    
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 920 874 A    HW: 1T0 920 874 A
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1216  
       Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0GN3N61E3
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 34311DA67236180AFBB-8060
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 A
       Component: RNS-MID       H04 5238  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7G8304114
       Coding: 02010000010000220009
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 372B2AAA6F40F312DE9-8062
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
       Component: EU West V16  8536 
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1201  
       Coding: 0000191
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 382929966E5EFC6AD73-806C
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.071 H08 1901  
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 353720A2794C0102CC5-8060
    
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                000 - -
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
       Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
       Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 8090020851030C7F2D06840570080BC7F0FE40
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 03538E7A67186FB2321-8056
    
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 947 291 F
       Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4809  
       Coding: 00000000
       Shop #: WSC 01324  
    
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
    
    
       Subsystem 7 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
       Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 456 A    HW: 1T0 035 456 A
       Component: 08K Audioverst.     0006  
       Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000008118908
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2D0708C2911C49C2B45-8078
    
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00419 - Left Front DSP Midrange Speaker (R103) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    00871 - Bass Speaker Front Right (R23) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1201  
       Coding: 0000180
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 392F2C925554E56228D-806C
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 A    HW: 5M0 907 357 A
       Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0001  
       Revision:   H02       Serial number:               
       Coding: 3293188
       Shop #: WSC 00610 218 181904
       VCID: 323D1BBE8822163AE97-8066
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0008  
       Coding: 00000050
    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0001  
       Coding: 00000050
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 A
       Component: RNS-MID       H04 5238  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7G8304114
       Coding: 02010000010000220009
       Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
       VCID: 372B2AAA6F40F312DE9-8062
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
       Component: EU West V16  8536 
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J    HW: 1K0 959 703 J
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1202  
       Coding: 0000152
       Shop #: WSC 00610 218 1012552
       VCID: 372B2AAA6340F312DE9-8062
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 D    HW: 1K0 907 383 B
       Component: Anhaenger     H15 0070  
       Revision: 3A002001    Serial number: 00000107362291
       Coding: 0100000200000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2E050FCE901A32DA8DF-807A
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J    HW: 1K0 959 704 J
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1202  
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 00610 218 1012560
       VCID: 382929966E5EFC6AD73-806C
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: RETROFIT77.lbl
       Part No SW: KTC 364 96P     HW: KTC 364 96P 
       Component: SWP:3.31.6      H24 0220  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 21977 142 74100
       VCID: 3E253F8E4C7AC25A1DF-806A
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat
    Cannot be reached
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7F: Inform. Electr. II
    Cannot be reached
    
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:39, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.3V)-----------
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  2. Re: Touran 2.0TDI BMN cranks, no start 
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    300rpm is perfect.
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  3. Re: Touran 2.0TDI BMN cranks, no start 
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    Checked all fuses and relays under the dash and besides the battery. All seems good. could it be tandem pump? I don't have proper tools to measure the pressure, are there any other way for testing?
     
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    The tandem pumps are difficult to test due to the pulsations but rarely fail, have you tried giving it a bit of a sniff?
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  5. Re: Touran 2.0TDI BMN cranks, no start 
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    been away for the weekend, I'm starting to go bald because of the car. There is no signs of leak. Could water come in too the ECU? Were we live it snows alot. The DMF has starting to show signs of needing replacement, is there a probability that is the cause?
     
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    The main control relay on your vehicle at ignition on must have at ecu pin nos a3-a5-a6 which then fires up 6 fuses certainly has to be checked out best place to start & replay back
     
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    Not for a total none start, have you tried a very gentle sniff of brake cleaner down the turbo inlet pipe?
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    tested and checked all fuses and relays, all good
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    Not for a total none start, have you tried a very gentle sniff of brake cleaner down the turbo inlet pipe?
    No, Ill test that tomorrow. Did not think about trying that
     
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