Cranking but won't start

[Gazza243]

Thanks that a great help It was a continuity test so will check for 12v tomorrow across all fuses and the gateway hopefully I will have some idea if power is getting to the gateway.

[Gazza243]

At the minute fault codes are very limited as diagnostics is only working on kline so I'm trying to get the canbus up and running for a more in depth idea of what is going on

[Gazza243]

Been a bit delayed in further testing with this heat bit just tested power to canbus module and only getting power through pin 14, nothing through pins 1 and 2, any idea if that runs through any fuses or is it a break in the wires?

[Gazza243]

With a lack of communication to power control module could the issue be one of the relays in it not sending power to all the modules? Anyone have any wiring diagrams of the mk5 golf?

[VAG-Abound]

Been a bit delayed in further testing with this heat bit just tested power to canbus module and only getting power through pin 14, nothing through pins 1 and 2, any idea if that runs through any fuses or is it a break in the wires?

Pins 1 and 2 do share a fuse, which should be 10A. Try SB24 - slot number 24 in the box to right as you look into engine. Or possibly SB12 if you have the "simpler" layout with only two relays.

Check that each side of the fuse has ~12V. At least one side should - it's straight from the battery.

[VAG-Abound]

With a lack of communication...

Talking of lack of comms, how's it going? Working now?

[Gazza243]

Sorry didn't see any new messages, haven't tried what you suggested yet but will update as soon as I've tried

[VAG-Abound]

If it is the fuse then there is a reasonable chance that it will pop again, particularly when engine started. Hopefully you can get as far as a pre-start scan to see that everything is there. If it pops as soon as inserted then an immediate check could be continuity from "load" side of fuse (ie not the side connected to battery) to bodywork. If it is low Ohms then there may be rubbed through insulation between engine fuse and gateway.

[Gazza243]

sorry for the delay in replying, with the school holidays etc not had no time to work on it.
After running a new 12v feed to the gateway module ive managed to get a full scan so hoping im making progress in getting this running again with the help of you guys

Monday,29,August,2022,16:10:25:42922
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
Ross-Tech: Home


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ4W067231 License Plate:
Mileage: 180940km-112430mi Repair Order:


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ4W067231 Mileage: 180940km-112430miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 036-906-032-AXP.lbl
Part No SW: 036 906 032 AG HW: xxxxxxxxxxx
Component: BOSCH ME7.5.10 5612
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0D9133483
Coding: 0000071
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 55A401BBFCA6FC27CC-8000
VINID: 9E69EAAAA05BA849C01870830400CB0A24

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0019073
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3A7EB20775F8335FC1-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 CB
Component: Climatic PQ35 060 0201
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 66C6367751C067BF55-8032

1 Fault Found:
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 K HW: 1K0 937 049 K*
Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0701
Revision: 00030000 Serial number: 00000000424868
Coding: 008D0F0600041800001400001400000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3778AB3346EA2E373E-8062

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0401
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 00000

3 Faults Found:
01800 - Light Switch (E1)
008 - Implausible Signal
01064 - Terminal 58d; Interior Dimming
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00987 - Lamp for Brake Light; Left (M9)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 A HW: 1K0 909 605 A
Component: 0M AIRBAG VW8 022 0500
Revision: 04022000 Serial number: 0033FD077VZS
Coding: 0012365
Shop #: WSC 01268 785 00200
VCID: 2A5E8247855883DFB1-807E

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME17123001

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME3D402E15

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME53033C01

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME010C3001

1 Fault Found:
01228 - Airbag Cut-Off Switch for Passenger Side (E224)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 HW: 1K0 953 549
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 012 0030
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 6FE853537E3AA6F726-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 950 P
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 3554
Coding: 0001401
Shop #: WSC 00199 210 64534
VCID: 3564A13B5CE6DC272C-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 C HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H08 0080
Revision: 08 Serial number: 2100103C200E11
Coding: 3D0F0340070003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 27587B73964ABEB7AE-8072

3 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 116
Mileage: 180945 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:34:49

01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 116
Mileage: 180945 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:34:53

00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 156
Mileage: 180945 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:35:10


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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 950 P
Component: IMMO 3554
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3564A13B5CE6DC272C-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0116
Coding: 0000052
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 306A902FA384F90F7F-8064

1 Fault Found:
00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
011 - Open Circuit

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V1.clb
Part No: 1K2 909 144 E
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0 1202
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2E568E57B9B0EFFF6D-807A

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 920 km
Count: 1
Steering Angle: 0.00°


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 C
Component: KSG 0201
Coding: 00E802087F2D8404085B0100
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 306A902FA384F90F7F-8064

1 Fault Found:
00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
011 - Open Circuit

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 E
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0116
Coding: 0000052
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 316C952BA88EF00770-8064

1 Fault Found:
00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
011 - Open Circuit

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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all help greatly appreciated and ill update any changes.
thanks