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  1. slight engine judder when cold 
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    Getting a slight engine judder when accelerating when cold, goes away when the oil temperature starts to raise. done a scan on vcds and it says there is an electrical fault on 3 of the glow plugs, take it that means bad glow plugs or could it be something else? don't want to have to remove the glow plugs unless i have to. I've attached the readout from vcds. thanks for looking.

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    Sunday,04,September,2022,16:52:30:02845
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4615.4
    Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
    Ross-Tech: Home
    
    
    
    
      License Plate: 
    
    
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 4C 4F 52 53 56 61
              62 72 77
    
    
       Mileage: 281100km-174667miles
    
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 018 PR    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
       Component: R4 2.0l TDI   X25 9979  
       Revision: 41X25---    Serial number: 00000000000000 CVN: 940D8C53
       Coding: 00190032042501080000
       Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018PR 003007
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018PR.rod
       VCID: 094F93C3F9B9F393981-805C
       VINID: 9E69EAAAA0D3A935410831490C1678BA6C
    
    
    3 Faults Found:
    4984 - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug Circuit (Q10) 
              P0671 00 [109] - Electrical Fault
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 280431 km
                        Date: 2022.08.22
                        Time: 12:20:30
    
    
                        Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 14 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 15 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.940 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Electric auxiliary heater: shut-off conditions-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Electric auxiliary heater: shut-off conditions-Bits 0-7: 2
                        Electric auxiliary heater: relay activation-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Pre-glow time: 1300 ms
                        Glow status-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Glow status-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Glow cycles above temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 11
                        Glow cycles above temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 214
                        Glow cycles below temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Glow cycles below temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 7
                        Outside temperature: 19.0 °C
    
    
    4985 - Cylinder 2 Glow Plug Circuit (Q11) 
              P0672 00 [109] - Electrical Fault
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 280431 km
                        Date: 2022.08.22
                        Time: 12:20:30
    
    
                        Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 14 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 15 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.940 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Electric auxiliary heater: shut-off conditions-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Electric auxiliary heater: shut-off conditions-Bits 0-7: 2
                        Electric auxiliary heater: relay activation-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Pre-glow time: 1300 ms
                        Glow status-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Glow status-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Glow cycles above temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 11
                        Glow cycles above temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 214
                        Glow cycles below temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Glow cycles below temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 7
                        Outside temperature: 19.0 °C
    
    
    4987 - Cylinder 4 Glow Plug Circuit (Q13) 
              P0674 00 [096] - Electrical Fault
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 280593 km
                        Date: 2022.08.27
                        Time: 17:37:22
    
    
                        Engine RPM: 1368.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 30.2 %
                        Vehicle speed: 24 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 21 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 15 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 15.000 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 38
                        Electric auxiliary heater: shut-off conditions-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Electric auxiliary heater: shut-off conditions-Bits 0-7: 2
                        Electric auxiliary heater: relay activation-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Pre-glow time: 2200 ms
                        Glow status-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Glow status-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Glow cycles above temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 11
                        Glow cycles above temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 221
                        Glow cycles below temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 0
                        Glow cycles below temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 7
                        Outside temperature: 16.0 °C
    
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 AG    HW: 3AA 614 109 AG
       Component: J104   C2 450M VDCA 0023  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000005209508
       Coding: 0004016
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 72BDD42FF8AF904BC9B-8026
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 044 F    HW: 3AA 907 044 F
       Component: Climatronic   H03 0101  
       Revision: 00001K01    
       Coding: 0014004803
       Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW46.rod
       VCID: 3333112BCBB5D94302D-8066
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 3AA-937-087.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 F    HW: 3AA 937 087 F
       Component: BCM PQ47 M    421 0464  
       Revision: BA421001    
       Coding: 000800000000000000180080540000E403510088426D87606480C7200041
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
       VCID: 3D273713FD711F33E49-8068
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AC 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 20121  26  0612 
       Coding: 00B795
    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
       Component: RLS 201211 05  54  0403 
       Coding: 0230ED
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 3AA-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 919 475 L    HW: 4H0 919 475 E
       Component: PARKHILFE PLA H06 0025  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 56261134501653
       Coding: 149206
       Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2C000000000 002008
       ROD: EV_EPHVA2C000000000.rod
       VCID: 44D142F79E1B6EFBAB7-8010
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 Q    HW: 5N0 959 655 Q
       Component: J234__10J VW10 HI   1918  
       Revision: 23016000    Serial number: 003JZPRZ4QSU  
       Coding: 0012362
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 4BC369CBBFC5A1836AD-801E
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS693593371 
    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS634903421 
    
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6T6JBV9KJ 
    
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS66CNPU9KJ 
    
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 3C0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 3C9 953 501 BN    HW: 5K0 953 569 AB
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
       Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20111215101596
       Coding: 1182250000
       Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 76B5E83F98478C6BE53-8022
    
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H06 0022 
       Coding: E20000
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 3AA 920 970 E    HW: 3AA 920 970 E
       Component: KOMBI         H03 0609  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 461F01
       Shop #: WSC 05314 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW46.rod
       VCID: 35372F33C5C1C7732C9-8060
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 P    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway H40 1623  
       Revision:   H40       Serial number: 181211F1000945
       Coding: 462007
       Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
       VCID: 3D273713FD711F33E49-8068
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 433     HW: 3AA 959 433 
       Component:    IMMO         043 0400  
       Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       VCID: 76B5E83F94C78C6BE53-8022
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
       Component:    ELV          029 0380
       3C0905861J     ELV          029 0380   
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7661611790    
       Coding: 010000
       Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
       VCID: 290FF34319F99393B81-807C
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0534  
       Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0004141158
       Coding: 0212B7
       Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 35372F33C5C1C7732C9-8060
    
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704     HW: 3C0 959 794   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0407 
       Serial number: 00000002649051      
       Coding: 000290
    
    
    1 Fault Found:
    66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
              B11EC 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 231
    
    
    
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 N
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 195    3301  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 35372F33C941C7732C9-8060
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 433     HW: 3AA 959 433 
       Component:    KSG PQ47 ELV 043 0634  
       Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Coding: 0191020052830E76340494157C085FCE105C01
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 76B5E83F94C78C6BE53-8022
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501
    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
       Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611
    
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
       Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: EZE_2         H40 1623  
       Revision:   H40       Serial number: 181211F1000945
       Coding: 00000008
       Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
       VCID: 6FBBDD5BE79DBDA3265-803A
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 919 204 A    HW: 3AA 919 204 A
       Component: Analoguhr  004 0003 
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0534  
       Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0004118192
       Coding: 0212B6
       Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 3635283FD8C7CC6B253-8062
    
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703     HW: 3C0 959 795   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0407 
       Serial number: 00000002651878      
       Coding: 000290
    
    
    1 Fault Found:
    66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
              B11EC 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 231
    
    
    
    
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    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 G    HW: 3AA 907 801 G
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-64783 0009  
       Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000568089
       Coding: 0022167
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 35372F33C941C7732C9-8060
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 035 195 G    HW: 3C8 035 195 G
       Component: Radio RCD510  050 0207  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3L6700332
       Coding: 01000400040011
       Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
       VCID: 2C010A57160B86BB437-8078
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Batt.regelung H40 1623  
       Serial number: 181211F1000945
       Coding: 030F185A
       Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
       VCID: 71BFDB23F1A9AB53301-8024
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180 
       Serial number: 00000000008900451668
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 D    HW: 5K0 035 730 D
       Component: TELEFON       H09 2902  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007661536965
       Coding: 0A01000000010101
       Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01719
       ROD: UHVNA.rod
       VCID: 2615F87F0867BCEB953-8072
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:29, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------
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  2. Re: slight engine judder when cold 
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    The glow plugs are monitored and are working even during running certain situations, they are classed as a service item rather like a cam belt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    The glow plugs are monitored and are working even during running certain situations, they are classed as a service item rather like a cam belt.
    Il get some and put them in and see how it goes then, thanks
     
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    The engine management light came on when one of mine went TU. Using my detector it showed No3 as faulty so I replaced them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UMEL View Post
    The engine management light came on when one of mine went TU. Using my detector it showed No3 as faulty so I replaced them all.
    My light hasn't came on yet, I changed the fuel filter last week and there was a bit of dirt in the reservoir and filter was very dirty, the juddering has since disappeared from the engine since then, will still change the plugs when I get time thou to be on the safe side
     
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