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  1. A8 - Ignition Problem 
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    Hello, bit of a long one sorry,

    friends car, she was driving it and red key came up on dash with "ignition failure" popping up on the intruments.

    When she got home she couldn't turn it off, the key got released but the engine kept running.

    Central locking dead, ignition would pop MMI screen up, nothing more.

    If you clear all the faults it eventually comes to life after a long wait.

    Took it for a drive and it came up with the red key and the igition failure warning, turned around and the intruments actually went through a hard reset, as i pulled in the driveway they actually went completly off. I parked up and low and behold it wouldnt switch off, i left it idling and eventually after 20 mins it switched its self off.

    I've had a look and i found that the battery protection solonoid thing in the boot had failed in the open position so the battery wasn't charging, so i got a replacement and now once you've cleared all the faults it charges the battery again and lets you start it.

    I had my laptop hooked up at the time of the test drive and this is what i got from it:
    Code:
    Wednesday,06,October,2021,16:14:48:30277
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 21.9.0.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20210903 DS330.0
    Ross-Tech: Home
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ4E54N026221   License Plate: Y11RYK
    Mileage: 147170km-91447mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 1E 25 34 36 37 38 42
              46 47 4F 52 53 56 57 61 62 67 72 76 77
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ4E54N026221   Mileage: 147170km-91447miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
    07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 059-907-401-ASB.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 401 H    HW: 4E0 907 401 B
       Component: 3.0L V6TDI  G000AG  0030  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number: AUX3Z0D4140890
       Coding: 0011773
       Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
       VCID: 2045F239F3B5A68961-8074
       VINID: 9D196AAAA1151447800860820437F97796
    
    1 Fault Found:
    18107 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                P1699 - 001 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel Electronics - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 756 /min
                        Torque: 42.9 Nm
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
                        Voltage: 13.91 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00001111
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Torque: 249.6 Nm
    
    Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 F    HW: 09L 927 156 
       Component: AG6 09L 3.0lTDI RdW 0050  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:        0019726
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 254BE32DEC9743A112-8070
    
    1 Fault Found:
    18275 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                P1867 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel (J527) - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:43:45
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 736 /min
                        RPM: 704 /min
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        (no units): 30.0
                        (no units): 22.0
                        Temperature: 30.0°C
                        T.B. Angle: 0.0°
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: None
       VCID: 55AB93EDBC77132142-FFFE
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory BFS H08  0060  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
       Coding: 3670112
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 234FFD35E2A3BD917C-8076
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147172 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2012.11.17
                        Time: 00:44:23
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4E0-910-7xx-07.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 729 H    HW: 4E0 035 729 A
       Component: Interfacebox    H43 0770  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 300DG047535373
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2D5B1B0DB4677BE1DA-8078
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 609 A
       Component: Bedienteil MMI  H42 0020
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 322EQ047506857
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 7407.05.040000000000010055ÿ
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010055ÿ
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 A    HW: 4E0 820 043 A
       Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT    016 0300  
       Revision: 00000025    Serial number: 00000000043421
       Coding: 1067009
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       VCID: 1B3FC5D5DAD38551B4-804E
    
    5 Faults Found:
    00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 14
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 146326 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2004.05.09
                        Time: 17:57:25
    
    01857 - Air Outlet Sensor; Middle Left (G347) 
                007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100111
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 21
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 146857 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2004.08.15
                        Time: 03:00:21
    
    02095 - Component Protection Active 
                000 - - - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 147153 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2004.09.12
                        Time: 03:24:06
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Bin. Bits: 00011111
    
    00455 - Control Module for Access and Start Control; Comfort CAN (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 147173 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2004.09.12
                        Time: 05:38:52
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Bin. Bits: 00011000
    
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147173 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2004.09.12
                        Time: 05:39:05
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Bin. Bits: 00011000
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4E0-910-279.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 J    HW: 4E0 907 279 J
       Component: ILM Fahrer      H12 0190  
       Coding: 0100001
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2F670105BE6B09F1E8-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E2 910 113 B
       Component: Wischer WWS D3  H50 0420  
       Coding: 00000036
       Shop #: WSC 02313  
    
    4 Faults Found:
    02510 - Steering Column Adjustment 
                014 - Defective
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101110
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 01:08:26
    
    01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101101
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:05:32
    
    00455 - Control Module for Access and Start Control; Comfort CAN (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:23
    
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:28
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 655     HW: 4E0 959 655 G
       Component: Airbag 8.4E+    H10 0940  
       Coding: 0431707
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 63CFBD35A223FD913C-8036
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 549     HW: 4E0 953 549 
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul H13 0040  
       Coding: 0112141
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       VCID: 65CBA32DAC1783A1D2-8030
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: Lenkradmodul    H04 0080
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 900     HW: 4E0 920 950 A
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H44 0090  
       Revision: D17         Serial number: AUDID3D4001419
       Coding: 0000403
       Shop #: WSC 11111 111 11111
       VCID: 5CBD86C99F5DC2697D-8008
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 4E0-910-105.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 105     HW: 4E0 815 069 D
       Component: Heizgeraet      H06 0300  
       Revision: 0000000G    Serial number: 00000009001484
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 59B39FDD906F374166-800C
    
    5 Faults Found:
    02072 - Control Module for Energy Management (J644) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    33477 - Terminal Status 
                Unknown - 004 -  - Intermittent
    33621 - Gateway 
                Unknown - 004 -  - Intermittent
    33629 - Unknown Error Code 
                Unknown - 004 -  - Intermittent
    33623 - Unknown Error Code 
                Unknown - 004 -  - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4E0-910-468.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 468     HW: 4E0 907 468 A
       Component: Gateway         H07 0070  
       Revision: 07          Serial number: 1600304403094C
       Coding: FCFE5BDE2B7504
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 65CBA32DAC1783A1D2-8030
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101110
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 10
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:18
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1E: Media Player 2        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 C    HW: 4E0 035 111 
       Component: CD-Changer      H43 0340  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBD4001593
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1933DFDDD0EFF741A6-804C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 131     HW: 4E0 909 131 
       Component:     FBS AUDID3  H03 0140  
       Revision: 01403903    Serial number: AUX3Z0D4140890
       Coding: 0264192
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       VCID: 58B59AD9EB652E4959-800C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: ELV                 XXXX
       XXXXXXXXXXX ELV                 XXXX   
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101110
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 0
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:40:02
    
    01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 0
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:22
    
    00166 - Access/Start Authorization Switch (E415) 
                006 - Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100110
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:40:02
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4E0-910-553.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 E    HW: 4E0 907 553 E
       Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC    H05 4290  
       Coding: 0015510
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 254BE32DEC9743A112-8070
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:35:48
    
    00139 - Left Front Body Acceleration Sensor (G341) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11101011
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:35:48
    
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:20
    
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:20
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory FS  H08  0060  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
       Coding: 3670114
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 234FFD35E2A3BD917C-8076
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147172 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2012.11.17
                        Time: 00:44:23
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 887 D    HW: 4E0 919 887 C
       Component: MNS ECE         H43 0550  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 353DN047516661
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2E591C01B96100F9E3-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A    HW: 4E0 907 135 A
       Component: Dachknoten D3   H01 0090  
       Serial number: 00000410500136
       Coding: 0035968
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 1D3BCBCDC4C78B614A-8048
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E1 910 802     HW: 4E2 959 802 
       Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM007 0110  
       Coding: 0028462
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 5EB98CC18941D07913-800A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4E0-910-289.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A    HW: 4E0 907 289 
       Component: Komfortgeraet   H04 0040  
       Revision: 00400004    Serial number:  W040405030345
       Coding: 0004345
       Shop #: WSC 00409 210 61188
       VCID: 2757E925969B51B120-8072
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 853 
       Component: Heckdeckel      H06 0060
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 907 719 
       Component: Neigungssensor  H03 0020
    
    5 Faults Found:
    00984 - Left Tail Light (M4) 
                014 - Defective
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101110
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 15
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 01:02:37
    
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 36
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    02095 - Component Protection Active 
                000 - - - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:28
    
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:28
    
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147175 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:31
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 G    HW: 4E0 035 223 A
       Component: DSP-Amp.-High   H13 0360  
       Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000002714
       Coding: 0000023
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2143F73DF8BFAF816E-8074
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:25
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A    HW: 4E0 907 280 A
       Component: ILM Beifahrer   H09 0040  
       Revision:             Serial number: 00000000039742
       Coding: 0010001
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 1E39CCC1C9C1907953-804A
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147172 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:00
    
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147172 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:00
    
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147172 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E1 910 802     HW: 4E2 959 801 
       Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM007 0110  
       Coding: 0028462
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 5EB98CC18941D07913-800A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 A    HW: 4E0 907 801 
       Component: EPB  AV1C1010   H01 1010  
       Revision: AV1C1010    
       Coding: 0000221
       Shop #: WSC 00409 210 70349
       VCID: 1D3BCBCDC4C78B614A-8048
    
    4 Faults Found:
    02596 - Rear Brake Pads Worn 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01111000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 01:02:19
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 9.94 V
                        Count: 61
    
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:27
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 12.63 V
                        Count: 237
    
    00576 - Terminal 15 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11101100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:23
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 12.63 V
                        Count: 41
    
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:23
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 12.63 V
                        Count: 247
    
    
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    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 C    HW: 4E0 035 541 B
       Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H41 0290  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 304DP047587470
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2045F239F3B5A68961-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 57: TV Tuner        Labels: 4E0-910-146.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 146 C    HW: 4E0 919 146 
       Component: TV analog TUNER H12 0210  
       Revision: 00000022    Serial number: 00000000002483
       Coding: 0001003
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2143F73DF8BFAF816E-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 B    HW: 4E0 915 181 
       Component: ENERGIEMANAGER  H02 0240  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000002359316
       Shop #: WSC 00409 210 02606
       VCID: 1F47F1C5CECB997158-804A
    
       Component: von   
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:23
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 802     HW: 4E0 959 801 A
       Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM007 0110  
       Coding: 0028462
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 5DBB8BCD8447CB610A-8008
    
    5 Faults Found:
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:14:56
    
    01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:14:56
    
    01308 - Control Module for Roof Electronics (J528) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:14:56
    
    00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:05:02
    
    01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
                014 - Defective
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101110
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 147168 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:46
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 753 G    HW: 4E0 035 753 
       Component: SDS 3502 UK     H43 0380  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000403010084
       Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
       VCID: 2953EF1D808F67C136-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 802     HW: 4E0 959 802 A
       Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM007 0110  
       Coding: 0028462
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 5DBB8BCD8447CB610A-8008
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 A    HW: 4E0 919 283 B
       Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020  
       Revision: --.--.--    Serial number: 08730410704552
       Coding: 0001008
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2143F73DF8BFAF816E-8074
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 237
                        Mileage: 147174 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2003.10.08
                        Time: 00:44:23
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-333.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 333 D    HW: 4E0 862 333 B
       Component: TELEFONMODUL EU     0650  
       Revision: 00000005    Serial number: T2AUD30911H6BT
       Coding: 0000004
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2045F239F3B5A68961-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:37)--------------------------
    I have read that it could be the module in the steering collumn, apparently it has it has some additional relays/switches which fail over time and cause the symptoms i am seeing, like as i said, if i charge the battery back to full and reset all the codes, sometimes using key in the drivers door lock and locking and unlocking it several tiems it will come back to life as if nothing is wrong, a fault scan shows nothing with immolbilser/entry auth etc, the obvious aircon and radiator fan issues remain.

    Before i start ripping the steering collumn out, does this ring any bells with anyone?
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    A couple of points, it looks like the HVAC and Connivence units are out of another car and not matched. All those comms errors suggest water Ingres to the CAN BUS unit. Personally if I was doing that I would clear all the codes and then deal with whatever comes back by using ODIS in guided fault finding, it would save a lot of time.
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    The passenger footwell is wet but not sure where the canbus unit is located? Could well be water, I haven’t noticed the steering wheel lock doing anything which is what lead me to learning about this secure unit on the end of the steering collum which controls terminal 15 and the rest of the ignition stuff. It has so much electrical stuff that just hammers the battery so I’m constantly fighting low voltage and what ever the actual fault is even with my trickle charger on.

    So yeah where’s the canbus box, can have a look at that before I take steering column out.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathanfenton View Post
    The passenger footwell is wet but not sure where the canbus unit is located? Could well be water, I haven’t noticed the steering wheel lock doing anything which is what lead me to learning about this secure unit on the end of the steering collum which controls terminal 15 and the rest of the ignition stuff. It has so much electrical stuff that just hammers the battery so I’m constantly fighting low voltage and what ever the actual fault is even with my trickle charger on.

    So yeah where’s the canbus box, can have a look at that before I take steering column out.
    The reason i say i also think its the steering wheel module is that when it works and connects most of the codes clears apart from a few which have nothing to do with this issue, so if the relay in the steering wheel box thing is going faulty it makes sense that the boxes that use terminal 15 etc sporadically can't communicate with everything else.
     
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    The steering module address 16 is not showing any errors but it has been revised to the A version
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    Yeah so I dropped the steering column out and there’s nothing on it just the electronic lock.

    Put it all back together and it fires straight up, as soon as you try to turn it off, the interior lights come on, the screen pops down, the clocks go off but the engine keeps running, so it’s a stuck relay somewhere keeping one of the terminals on.

    Losing patience with it now
     
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    Think it’s a seats out job, start and auth box is under drivers seat, will see if it looks moist. Keyless “Kesey” box is under passenger seat which I know is wet but not sure if this car has keyless so might be red herring.
     
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    So ive had drivers seat out, its got puddles but the control unit was dry inside when i took it apart (start and auth), had some more messing with it, so if i take battery connection off and put it back on, car behaves normally. I put key in and the steering lock shoots off, i turn key anti clockwise and lock shoots off ,i can repeat this many times and the steering lock shoots on and off perfectly so can rule that one out.

    So if i turn the ignition to the on position everything powers on, everything works, if you then turn it to the off position you have the same issue, it only half switches off, the steering lock does nothing and it doesn't complete the shutdown procedure. You then can't do anything with the car, key fobs stop working everything locks out until you disconnect battery and reconnect and car works perfectly again.

    Im running out of ideas, im going to pop passenger seat out just incase theres anything there as i know its very wet but the fact when you reset the car everything works perfectly im dubious. It's like something sticking on when the ignition requests shutdown, terminal 15 i think it is is staying on by a back feed or a stuck solanoid in something but im running out of ideas.
     
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    So I always hate not closing forum posts.

    This is the kissy? Unit that sits under near side seat. Both footwells were soaking. The start and auth box under off side is better sealed and survived.

    This unit had water in it and corroded components. I carefully used contact cleaner and a detailing brush and cleaned the board, plugged it back in and problem was resolved!

    What a faff. Now to dry the carpets and put it all together !
     
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