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    Sorry. I do get a bit of that too!
     
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    I couldn't remember the correct spelling so Googled it and the result nearly made me fall off my chair, it is a bizarre phobia and I have no idea what started it.
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  3. Re: 2.0 TDi Ultra CNHA EGR and cooler removal and cleaning 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nordic_b View Post
    Hey guys, as promised, few pictures.

    I'm not totally convinced it was badly blocked, but I let you and the car judge. Need to drive more for this fault to reappear.
    Attachment 38745 Attachment 38746 Attachment 38748 Attachment 38747

    After. You can see dimples (by design) inside the tubes, that probably contribute to blockage.
    3 bottom tubes are straight through, perhaps for oil passing through easier?
    I rinses it in the oven degreaser concentrate in the water (nasty stuff, wear gloves if you use it) for about 10 minutes. It attacks lots of stuff, including metals, so don't leave it overnight Urea crystals and everything have dissolved.
    Attachment 38749

    I opened up the egr valve to see how plastic gears look, they looked ok, but greased them with non-petroleum grease.
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    Cleaned everything and assembled back.
    It ruined my hands, they look like I got attacked by 10 hungry cats.
    This freak of engineering looks like a nuclear reactor.
    Attachment 38752


    If anyone is going to attempt this work, 15-20 hours, as mentioned, is probably about what it takes if to do it properly, e.g. respecting torque specs, using copper grease, etc.
    You'll need to drain coolant or, like I did, drained liter or 2 from the cooler itself.
    You may also need:
    - Inspection mirror
    - Magnetic pickup - you'll drop endless stuff
    - Endoscope helps too, some places/bolts are not visible from any angle - who designed this?

    Tools that I really needed and did not have:
    - dedicated hose clip pliers - absolutely essential
    - various lengths torx bits

    Parts I had to remove/detach:
    - Air filter assembly / front rad cover
    - Top brace
    - Bottom cross member
    - Disconnect downpipe from the gearbox mount
    - DPF assembly detached from the exhaust and the turbo, did not need to remove

    This allows to wiggle things out in some magic manner, rubic's cube springs to mind.

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    Looks about as bad as the pictures in the Audi TSB I shared.......mine was about the same when I received the photos from Audi post dismantling.....
     
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    I wonder if the blockage is more due to the crystallization or the soot. The soot, by feel, was very light, fluff like, urea deposits were fairly hard. There are few adblue additives (additives on additives the world we live in) that claim they prevent forming hard urea deposits, e.g. Forte, Wynns, Total, but they seem to be mainly designed for trucks, business, not consumer. I've just had adblue injector cleaned and only few hundreds km from then I already see white stuff forming on the nozzle, but it's more powder like rather than hard depositing.
     
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    It is the urea deposits, they set like cement; apparently it is a huge pain with big commercial Diesels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasher View Post
    It is the urea deposits, they set like cement; apparently it is a huge pain with big commercial Diesels.
    And my keks, according to the missus.
    Quote "My tuner told me after he fitted the box that 0-60 should be around 2.6 seconds! "
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whippy53 View Post
    And my keks, according to the missus.
    eeewww yuk
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    So after about 400km after the egr cooler cleaning the fault is not returning, thanks to this post!
    I watched a couple of youtube videos on this job and it brings memories of pain and some people take it way further than I had to - what a horrible design and new cars in general.
     
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    Hello everyone!
    P2002 on mine 2015 CNHA A6 brought me here.
    This is my first post here so let me introduce myself 😊. I'm Christopher, live in Poland and I've been using my Audi daily since 2017 to drive myself to work about 60 miles back and forth couple times a week with a highway (60-80mph constant speeds)... No major issues with the car so far (150k miles odo) but it started showing this P2002 error some time ago. No other symptoms so after doing some research I'm pretty sure it's all about this damn cooler.
    I already bought some excellent condition used one (20k miles) and it was really a bargain (20£) but the labour at dealers gave me a headache (1200£, thought I'm pretty sure they quoted me that amount only to get rid of me)... Anyway - I decided to do it myself. I'm pretty sure I have all necessary stuff (jack and stands, endoscopic camera, spline torx bits, hose clamp tool etc) and skills (two hands LOL) to manage it but still I have some questions (especially to nordic_b as he's done that by himself).
    Is it necessary to undo DPF filter while I'm not intending to clean the thing?
    Exhaust pipe... Is it necessary to take it away or can I just undo it from DPF filter and move away a little?
    The cooler itself if fastened to DPF with couple of bolts and with a bolt and bracket from the back. Is it possible to reach the lower bolt holding this bracket to the engine from the top?
    Any other tips would be highly appreciated. Thanks!
     
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    I did the first service on a 10k mile 2022 A4 yesterday, I was horrified at the complexity of the exhaust after treatment system... insane. DTNA code engine "EU6 AP" standard, pre cat with AdBlue injector, DPF and then a second cat with AdBlue injector so if the pre cat injector fails and blocks all three units that is £7000 in major parts alone, effing madness!
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