Audi 80. Cam belt or Cam chain?

[Coastie]

My 94 M reg 2.6 V6 80, is it Cam belt or Cam chain?

Thanks.

[adamss24]

ABC- engine code, 91-96 timing belt. Check timing belt every 30 000 miles. Audi does not specify timing belt replacement guide. Consult the car manual if in doubt. If the belt looks old replace ASAP.

[paul20v]

hi also change the w/pump and the tensioner and idler no point doin the belt and not the other bits as failure of any of the above will result in belt failure

[Coastie]

Many thanks.

[Pauloz]

hi also change the w/pump and the tensioner and idler no point doin the belt and not the other bits as failure of any of the above will result in belt failure

Aye.... 95% of belt failures are immediately after its been fitted! Belts dont fail these days unless something else causes them to......

[paul20v]

Aye.... 95% of belt failures are immediately after its been fitted! Belts dont fail these days unless something else causes them to......

sorry thats rubbish belts generaly fail because they get ignored and rubber is a perishable material

[Pauloz]

sorry thats rubbish belts generaly fail because they get ignored and rubber is a perishable material

Should have read 'belts don't fail prematurely' if thats what youre picking holes in? If you follow services intervals, belts don't fail. If you follow fitting guidelines, tensioners and rollers don't fail.
And modern belts arent actually made of rubber.....
It is a fact that 95% of belt failures are immediately after fitting, not a guess.

[paul20v]

Should have read 'belts don't fail prematurely' if thats what youre picking holes in? If you follow services intervals, belts don't fail. If you follow fitting guidelines, tensioners and rollers don't fail.
And modern belts arent actually made of rubber.....
It is a fact that 95% of belt failures are immediately after fitting, not a guess.

if you think belts dont fail within recomended intervales you have not seen much action in the workshop with belts in the last 20 yrs , and if we are talking of picking holes no belts are not only made of rubber on there own there is other fibers etc in them but rubber is still the biggest component in a belt ,and if you are seeing belt failures after fitting would you not say that the fitter is at fault ,as in the last 20yrs the only thing i have ever seen go down is a new tensioner after fitment and i have fitted hundreds of belts on all makes and models of cars vans etc i change on average at least 3 to 4 a week so i can only go on personal experience which i think i am qualified to do so what ever you think.
merry christmas

[Pauloz]

if you think belts dont fail within recomended intervales you have not seen much action in the workshop with belts in the last 20 yrs , and if we are talking of picking holes no belts are not only made of rubber on there own there is other fibers etc in them but rubber is still the biggest component in a belt ,and if you are seeing belt failures after fitting would you not say that the fitter is at fault ,as in the last 20yrs the only thing i have ever seen go down is a new tensioner after fitment and i have fitted hundreds of belts on all makes and models of cars vans etc i change on average at least 3 to 4 a week so i can only go on personal experience which i think i am qualified to do so what ever you think.
merry christmas

I'm saying that they don't fail because of the fault of the belt mate, not that they dont fail at all. Its not really rubber though is it - much of an improved material, mostly HNBR. The only reason a belt fails within service intervals, is if something has happened to it.
Yes I would say the fitter was at fault - that was kinda my point, not fitting tensioners/rollers when they should being my original point that we are now detracting from.
I'm not competing on experience, we're from completely different perspectives; I work for an OE manufacturer, with 30 garage visits a week all over the UK, some of them failure issues.....

[paul20v]

I'm saying that they don't fail because of the fault of the belt mate, not that they dont fail at all. Its not really rubber though is it - much of an improved material, mostly HNBR. The only reason a belt fails within service intervals, is if something has happened to it.
Yes I would say the fitter was at fault - that was kinda my point, not fitting tensioners/rollers when they should being my original point that we are now detracting from.
I'm not competing on experience, we're from completely different perspectives; I work for an OE manufacturer, with 30 garage visits a week all over the UK, some of them failure issues.....

hi
must addmit its not really rubber as we used to know it but for the majority of people thats what it is , i must say that belts do last a hell of a lot better than they used in the 80s and 90s ,especially the last 10 yrs has seen a leap forward in belt technology ,but give me a chain anyday .
have a good christmas and a happy new year to you and all reading cheers
paul