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  1. Need oil after 4k miles - VW 509 00 spec for 3.0 TDi 
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    My MY 2017 3.0TDi A6 BE has asked for oil after just 4,000 miles. I'm quite surprised to need it so soon - is this usual?

    Also it seems that I should use VW 509 00 spec oil which was only released in June/July 2016. It does list VW 507 00 as an alternative. I don't know whether I should really go out of my way to find the 509 spec oil or just use the 507. On reading it seems that the new oil is low viscosity 0W/20 and I wonder if I will notice a difference or even if its the reason for using oil so quickly?
     
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    Bang in the 5W30 507.00 , there is 4 Centistokes difference in viscosity between the two and no oil performance data as yet .

    I don't expect it to eclipse 507.00 as it's primarily developed for mpg thus lowering emissions , also has efficiency bhp and torque gains through less drag .
     
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    Might depend a lot on the type of driving, but I don't think it is usual to be adding oil at 4k miles to that engine. Unless it was short filled from new for some reason.
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    How much are we talking about here?
    Has a message come up saying low oil or is it just the mmi showing somewhere between min and max?
    I added about 500-600ml in the first 3k then about 500ml per 5k. The v6's uses a bit more oil than the 4 pots.
     
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    I received a low oil message on the MMI which told me to add up to 1l. I've ended up putting in a litre of Castrol Edge 507.00, as couldn't find 509.00, which has put me back to the maximum marker.
     
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    Wow I've never added any oil to my BiTdi in approaching 40k miles. I did have to add a little to my old C6 3.0 Tdi at one point in the 80k miles that I had it but nothing much.

    I do wonder if driving gently from cold is a factor in this. I'm pretty fixated on not giving the car too much stress until I see oil temp pick up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ukgroucho View Post
    Wow I've never added any oil to my BiTdi in approaching 40k miles. I did have to add a little to my old C6 3.0 Tdi at one point in the 80k miles that I had it but nothing much.

    I do wonder if driving gently from cold is a factor in this. I'm pretty fixated on not giving the car too much stress until I see oil temp pick up.
    In all my cars I let it warm up before giving it some. Sometimes it's difficult cause I'm 2 minutes from motorway so at motorway cruising speeds before it warms up. My 177 and 190 ultra didn't use a drop between services so was surprised that the 272 has used some. All bought from new.

    I would say a litre in 4K is not excessive. I can remember Subaru told my mate that 7L is normal between 10k services in his sti. That's more than an oil change. He quickly got rid of that time bomb.
     
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    VAG will not act until the specific consumption exceeds 0.5L per 620 miles...
    STOP THE ANTI HUMAN NET ZERO MADNESS



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    Quote Originally Posted by A6S View Post
    I would say a litre in 4K is not excessive. I can remember Subaru told my mate that 7L is normal between 10k services in his sti. That's more than an oil change. He quickly got rid of that time bomb.
    Don't use Subaru as a yardstick cos they are boxer engines (flat cylinder layout - like my old BMW 1100RS). I suspect they behave a bit different to an "upright" V.
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    My 2009 A5 2.0 TFSI used to drink the stuff. Was putting in 5 litres every 10,000 miles or thereabouts. Haven't put any in my current C-Class in the last 30,000. I'm sure my inbound A6 will be somewhere between the 2.
     
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