Need oil after 4k miles - VW 509 00 spec for 3.0 TDi

**Crasher** · 01-03-2017,05:14 PM

Originally Posted by zollaf

not forgetting that modern engines are factory filled with synthetic oil so never actually get a chance to 'run in'.

It's a very good point but I like the idea of a first service check over, however in this instant world we live in people just don't have time. The number of people who bring cars in and you get the feeling they could do with it back yesterday, ohh and for you to pay them.....

**zollaf** · 01-03-2017,05:31 PM

time time time, no time to do anything.. but can browse the internet for hours.
i got one customer, never got time to do anything, even to drive his k04'd s4. (thats sat in a shed , ready to go) but can spend 3 days and make 100 phone calls to get the best price on some rear discs and pads for his golf.
its madness, the worlds going mad, i'm mad, and now have to go change a side marker light on a minibus, cos the custromer forgot to tell me its going out tomorrow.

**Crasher** · 01-03-2017,06:36 PM

The problem with this best price attitude is quality is getting worse and worse. I have a Skoda Superb on my lift that needed a new exhaust centre and back box, £219.44 for the centre box and £346.18 for the back box. The chap wanted genuine and was prepared to pay for it but the centre box went obsolete and the back box never turned up until today, after I cancelled it and ordered an aftermarket system which was cheap but the fit is awful. That middle box is only used on the up to 2008 Superb TDI so how can VAG justify making it obsolete and forcing me to fit cheap ****?

**zollaf** · 01-03-2017,07:09 PM

a 9 year old vag needs a new exhaust, whatb happened to making them properly in the first place. mines 22 and doing well.

**Crasher** · 01-03-2017,07:30 PM

The Skoda Superb only mid box was falling to bits, the Passat back box is part stainless but the hangers were falling off.

**Gazwould** · 01-03-2017,07:34 PM

Stop making the bits and people buy a newer car , marketing..

**RhysoTDI** · 01-03-2017,08:12 PM

For reference my 2012 3.0TDI didn't use a drop of oil between me buying it with 73,000 miles in the clock and it's next service at 84,000k

Its now on 89300 and the oil level is still showing at the top

my old PD170 A3 however used at least 0.5-1L every 7500 miles

**jcdub** · 01-03-2017,08:59 PM

I'm all for running in a car gently from new for the first 1000-1200 miles. Then drop the oil. Drive it for the next 3-4k miles fairly hard ensure its properly warmed up beforehand. Drive are you normally would after that. Dropping the oil after the 3-4k miles of hard driving is optimal. I did this on all my new cars and they barely used any oil if any in between services. Could have been luck too 😇

**Justinos** · 05-03-2017,10:12 PM

Originally Posted by jcdub

I'm all for running in a car gently from new for the first 1000-1200 miles. Then drop the oil. Drive it for the next 3-4k miles fairly hard ensure its properly warmed up beforehand. Drive are you normally would after that. Dropping the oil after the 3-4k miles of hard driving is optimal. I did this on all my new cars and they barely used any oil if any in between services. Could have been luck too 😇

I think the issue with this is if they are filled with synthetic at the factory, you don't get the traditional bedding in that you would get if using running in oil. My Z4M from 2008 required an oil change at 1200 mikes for this reason.

**Dutch Paddy** · 06-03-2017,10:53 AM

Based on the previous post on oil consumption...are the 3ltr engines smoky? You would nearly expect that if that much oil is burned...I've only had 'long term' experience with a 2 liter Multitronic and it never needed oil between services and it had 110K miles up when I traded it in.