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  1. i think i need new injectors, 3.0tdi, german ebay set? 
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    Got the white smoke on idle after tickover for 20 minutes

    Oil level has risen a bit in 10000 miles

    sooooooooo, bad news

    123,000 miles and looking for a new set of injectors

    these look cheap

    Audi A4 8K A5 8T A6 A7 4G 3.0TDI Einspritzdüsen Injektor Injektoren 059130277CD | eBay

    but will they be ok ? If anyone has bought a set from German ebay what was your experience ?
    April 2009: Bought Audi A6 3.0 TDi Quattro in Stratos Blue, Saloon, Manual Box, Heated Blue Leather, Cruise, 55 plate, 33k miles.
    April 2014: just run in at 80k miles, private plate, rattle from the CD player
     
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  2. Re: i think i need new injectors, 3.0tdi, german ebay set ? 
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    I had the same problem and finally I changed all six of the injectors. My engine is the ASB and I went for the newer revision ones from BMK. I bought them from eBay Germany too, more info here.
    After 20k working great and had no issues passing MOT.
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  3. Re: i think i need new injectors, 3.0tdi, german ebay set ? 
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    OP with an 09 will have the newer injectors.

    Concerning when facelift cars suffering with this
    XK8 96 Dyno'd at 305 and LPG converted, a mere 65ppl
    A6 07 3.0 quattro tip SE Limo, black,black leather/tints /black alloys/towbar/Alientech Eco Remap/quads/Rear DVD screens/Pogo Alert+
     
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    Relax.... mine's a late 05 model. Duff injectors allowed
    April 2009: Bought Audi A6 3.0 TDi Quattro in Stratos Blue, Saloon, Manual Box, Heated Blue Leather, Cruise, 55 plate, 33k miles.
    April 2014: just run in at 80k miles, private plate, rattle from the CD player
     
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    Oops my bad, soz
    XK8 96 Dyno'd at 305 and LPG converted, a mere 65ppl
    A6 07 3.0 quattro tip SE Limo, black,black leather/tints /black alloys/towbar/Alientech Eco Remap/quads/Rear DVD screens/Pogo Alert+
     
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    I got a used set from ebay.de and they have been fine, paid £500 for the 6.
     
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    Have had a bit of a delay...

    got a VCDS done for measuring blocks 72 -77 as I have seen this is how to check them

    results:

    72 -42.0 ms, -20.0 ms, -12.0 ms
    73 -46.0 ms, -6.0 ms, -2.0 ms
    74 -44.0 ms, -14.0 ms, -2.0 ms
    75 -36.0 ms, -8.0 ms, -4.0 ms
    76 -52.0 ms, -12.0 ms, -8.0 ms
    77 -56.0 ms, -20.0 ms, -14.0 ms

    Now going to look around for what they should be ....

    had rising oil level so sucked some out very rapidly !
    April 2009: Bought Audi A6 3.0 TDi Quattro in Stratos Blue, Saloon, Manual Box, Heated Blue Leather, Cruise, 55 plate, 33k miles.
    April 2014: just run in at 80k miles, private plate, rattle from the CD player
     
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  8. Re: i think i need new injectors, 3.0tdi, german ebay set ? 
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    OK found the thread I was looking for ....



    Read the measured value blocks 72 - 77.

    3 values per measured value block appear there (for 300 bar, 600 bar, 1000 bar).

    Should the values be higher than minus -45 ms (example - 60ms) or

    on digit 2 be

    higher than minus -15 ms (e.g. 20ms),

    the needle attachment is worn and the injector is incorrect. To avoid repeat repairs, replace all 6 injectors.

    >>>> Observe the algebraic sign (minus) in measured value block 72-77 !!!!! <<<<<


    Conclusion, as I suspected, is to replace injectors.... but worth checking

    Back to looking for second hand/refurbed ones on ebay.de
    April 2009: Bought Audi A6 3.0 TDi Quattro in Stratos Blue, Saloon, Manual Box, Heated Blue Leather, Cruise, 55 plate, 33k miles.
    April 2014: just run in at 80k miles, private plate, rattle from the CD player
     
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    Also need glow plug, here's the VCDS output. I kind of knew that already, but which ones do I order ? There are a couple of different types and I dont think this VCDS gives me a part number...


    Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
    Control Module Part Number: 4F0 910 402 L HW: 4F0 907 401 B
    Component and/or Version: 3.0L V6TDI G000SG 0010
    Software Coding: 0011312
    Work Shop Code: WSC 02335 785 00200
    VCID: 264310139112D62ECEF-8073
    4 Faults Found:

    005659 - Glowplug for Cylinder 2 (Q11)
    P161B - 001 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01110001
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 118095 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2013.10.10
    Time: 10:28:36

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 819 /min
    Torque: 97.5 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
    Voltage: 13.91 V
    Duty Cycle: 24.5 %
    Temperature: 13.5°C

    005663 - Glowplug for Cylinder 6 (Q15)
    P161F - 001 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01110001
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 118095 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2013.10.10
    Time: 10:28:36

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 819 /min
    Torque: 97.5 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
    Voltage: 13.91 V
    Duty Cycle: 24.5 %
    Temperature: 13.5°C

    005660 - Glowplug for Cylinder 3 (Q12)
    P161C - 001 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01110001
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 136954 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2014.07.08
    Time: 10:10:59

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 819 /min
    Torque: 105.3 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
    Voltage: 13.83 V
    Duty Cycle: 24.1 %
    Temperature: 15.3°C

    005662 - Glowplug for Cylinder 5 (Q15)
    P161E - 001 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01110001
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 183088 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2015.07.26
    Time: 09:35:02

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 798 /min
    Torque: 89.7 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
    Voltage: 13.98 V
    Duty Cycle: 24.9 %
    Temperature: 15.3°C


    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

    Apart from these things I have no errors
    April 2009: Bought Audi A6 3.0 TDi Quattro in Stratos Blue, Saloon, Manual Box, Heated Blue Leather, Cruise, 55 plate, 33k miles.
    April 2014: just run in at 80k miles, private plate, rattle from the CD player
     
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    There must be companies in the UK that can refurb these?

    Ian
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