Top end engine rattle after Emissions Recall

[Steven715]

Hello there, I have been finding this thread very interesting so first off I would like to thank everyone that contributed.

I have been sent 3 letters from VW/DVLA inviting me to have my recall done.
I am leaning towards not having it done as I am happy with the way the car performs and MPG that I'm receiving. I am also worried by the noise others have described and this will be the sort of thing that would annoy me.
Has anyone contacted VW and told them that you don't want the recall done? If so did they put up much of a fight?

Many thanks for your opinions on this matter.

Steve.


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[UMEL]

It is not compulsory so you do not need to contact anyone.

When and if you have your vehicle serviced, ensure you inform the servicing dealer, in writing, that you do not want it done. Also include a copy of the letter taped to the vehicles steering wheel when you drop it off. Ask the service manager to sign that copy.

All this said, I posted this problem on another Forum (non vehicular) and one Audi driver and one Skoda driver replied stating they had had the patch done with NO difference to the vehicles engine sound or performance.

PS, I am not having my Passat patched.

Hello there, I have been finding this thread very interesting so first off I would like to thank everyone that contributed.

I have been sent 3 letters from VW/DVLA inviting me to have my recall done.
I am leaning towards not having it done as I am happy with the way the car performs and MPG that I'm receiving. I am also worried by the noise others have described and this will be the sort of thing that would annoy me.
Has anyone contacted VW and told them that you don't want the recall done? If so did they put up much of a fight?

Many thanks for your opinions on this matter.

Steve.


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[Steven715]

It is not compulsory so you do not need to contact anyone.

When and if you have your vehicle serviced, ensure you inform the servicing dealer, in writing, that you do not want it done. Also include a copy of the letter taped to the vehicles steering wheel when you drop it off. Ask the service manager to sign that copy.

All this said, I posted this problem on another Forum (non vehicular) and one Audi driver and one Skoda driver replied stating they had had the patch done with NO difference to the vehicles engine sound or performance.

PS, I am not having my Passat patched.

Thank you UMEL, This has given me plenty to think about.
Its good to hear that other people are planning on doing the same thing. I would have the patch done if VW can satisfy my that no changes will be made to the drivability of the car and MPG, for the moment though I don't feel satisfied.

Cheers.


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[Europa25]

The more I hear, the more reluctant I am to let them get their hands on my car and possibly make it unsafe / lose value / become a dire driving experience.

VW have already lied - and the initial denial was absolutely ridiculous.

I have had Passats for 8 years and generally pleased with them. Quiet, spacious, economical, comfortable and power when you need it, great to drive.

It's very telling, that if the ECU is swapped for a pre-downgrade ECU the problems go away.

They're playing with fire over this issue - IF the 'upgrade' (which it is not) is 100% effective - then Why not give a two year guarantee on component failure related to it ?

People are getting wise to company tactics these days, thank goodness for information technology to let us make an informed choice.

Now it looks as though VW are misbehaving again, bu forcing their employees to be intransigent in the face of criticism.
The employees had better be careful - not only can you sue VW if they lie to you, you can sue the employee too - so although they are probably being forced to tow the company line on this to preserve the ego of their management - we are talking about peoples lives here, if the patching causes a catastrophic failure at high speed....

This is an article from Honest John, detailing failures on 2.0 Tiguans and the shocking denials by VW dealers - it is eye opening reading -

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/vol...emissions-fix/

[Gazwould]

" We think the software remap reduces the fuelling so we have recommended owners to try their engines on higher cetane 'superdiesel' such as Shell V-Power Nitro Plus or BP Ultimate that generally gives more torque at low rpm and might help"

And the cetane numbers and difference for supermarket diesel and 'superdiesel' Shell and BP is.....?

[UMEL]

Another recall letter today stating over 565,000 vehicles have now been patched. All running with no negative impact on engine performance, torque, fuel consumption, NOISE and CO2 emissions.

If you guys who have more engine noise did not get this letter perhaps you should request it. It has a publication number 0101\0043119\C042852\J107155_C01_R01_S01

[jamjar]

Hi, I have spoken with a VW tech and the rattle on the Tiguan is a known issue VW have issued an updated remap to try and resolve so it may be worth mentioning to your dealer.

My passat now has a judder at low rpm in 6th gear since the update, I've had 3 injectors replaced so far and this has not resolved the issue, It is back in with the dealer today hopefully having the 4th injector replaced. the engineer told me if that doesn't resolve it then that is the way the car drives now and I wouldn't notice it if I adopted a different driving style!!!!!!!

I will be contacting VW to complain as the update has been detrimental to the performance of the car.

The engineer told me that one other customer has had the same problem and decided to live with it......... Crazy

I complained to my local VW dealer about the top end engine rattle on my 2015 DSG Tiguan which only started after the the emission recall. They asked me leave the car while they checked various settings. A technician road tested the car and reported to the Service Manager that he did not notice any rattle.
I am not surprised because the rattle on my car only occurs at certain times, and through experience over recent weeks I am able to re-create these conditions.
For example from a standing start the car reaches 30 mph and the automatic gearbox has already changed up to 4th gear.
This is when the rattle occurs. Worse if I start on an incline with the engine under more load
When I returned to pick up the car from the dealer I was told to try filling up with Shell V Power fuel (£1.22/Litre) and report back to them. The Shell fuel has made no difference to the rattle so I will be taking the car in again next week, in particular to tell them that only using expensive fuel cannot be a solution.

[alex1690]

Hi to all
i'm from Audi Q3 forum Italy and we're start talking about rattle issue after updating dieselgate sw.
A owner of 2.0 TDI 140CV have tried to remap ecu after update, all ok for increase power but rattle still there.
A start point maybe engine sw ("engine module" in vag com software) before and after update...
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My sw version before was 4309, after 9977 engine TDI 2.0 140cv
This sw don't change if you remap ecu for increase power, but control engine and use of injector.
I read about owner of TDI 1.6 of Polo or A1 that have many sw update by service before solving engine problem ( injector malfuction, rattling, low rev engine power)

I think new engine sw cause rattling (that goes away during fap regeneration)

Can you post your sw version please? So we can compare and try to solve problem in someway

p.s. Sorry for my funny english

[UMEL]

UK VW owners seek compensation over emissions scandal - BBC News

Trial in 18 months

What if someone has sold their vehicle on. How do they stand.

[Arragonis]

I thought about joining the action when I heard about it - £3k if they succeed and no cost if they don't is a winner ? Except they don't handle owners in Scotland - not sure why. Thanks Nicola!

My servicing is done by a local specialist, only chosen because they are local to where I work - the local VW place has been fine for me with warranty work so far.

I've told the specialist I don't want the update done so it will not be on my car - I can forego the free VW key-ring, keep-warm coffee mug and top end rattle - thanks.