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    Hardwired, pic attached, ball joint a little loose so has cooking foil inserted for better grip

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    Thanks Mark. Can you let me know where you picked up the supply from please?
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    Professionally installed, so no idea.
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    OK thanks Mark.

    OP apologies for hijacking your post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by markaz View Post
    .. inline engines such as the V6 use a Torsen differential not a Haldex so again please be careful what notice you take of anything that mentions service intervals on these.
    Adding to this, in the sense how OP is wishing to do a fuller oil change.

    The Tiptronic box has 3 chambers for oil.

    The main which is discussed a lot, then you have the front drive chamber and rear output chamber on the tranny.

    The the rear final drive unit has it's own oil.

    VAG SSPs have this info, google SSP 325 , view page 82 for chamber info, some tech specs on page 80.

    The real final drive is covered in another SSP but if you google A8 parts d3 tech dump first hit takes you to a thread, scroll up and you'll find 2 interesting files.

    38-Service Manual Rear final drive 01R
    45-Servicing automatic gearbox 09L four-wheel drive

    Plus google for ECS tuning tiptronic reveals a nice pdf (5th hit) and there are also some ZF pdfs floating about on net and threads here.
     
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    Thanks for all your help, I spoke to Audi technical (not a dealer) today and they told me and I quote 'I do not need a transmission fluid change,
    Haldex oil change or filter change. This is a fully automatic gearbox which doesn't require this procedure therefore it isn't an option for audi to carry out on my specific model'

    So with that, I should leave well alone!?

    ps. thanks to gupsterg for the literature on this. I assume mine is the 09L gearbox?
     
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    Mertz, perhaps you should have spoken to your Audi Tech BEFORE posting

    I know that at 78k miles my tranny fluid was black and smelly and the change improved my shifting.

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merts75 View Post
    Thanks for all your help, I spoke to Audi technical (not a dealer) today and they told me and I quote 'I do not need a transmission fluid change,
    Haldex oil change or filter change. This is a fully automatic gearbox which doesn't require this procedure therefore it isn't an option for audi to carry out on my specific model'

    So with that, I should leave well alone!?

    ps. thanks to gupsterg for the literature on this. I assume mine is the 09L gearbox?
    ZF recommends to change the oil/filter no matter if Audi say it's "sealed for life". It's been discussed already on several threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merts75 View Post
    ps. thanks to gupsterg for the literature on this. I assume mine is the 09L gearbox?
    No worries .

    Quote Originally Posted by Merts75 View Post
    So with that, I should leave well alone!?
    Personally I'd like to go by ZF recommendations.

    I can see though how it can be hard to get the change done.

    Main dealers mainly speaking are not gonna touch this exercise IMO.

    I can also see why many indies would also not be open to the idea, even the very famous VAG indie I went to when getting the chains done really wasn't that open to the idea.

    Tranny specialists on the other hand would be IMO.

    The main thing any of the main / indie VAG places are gonna impress upon an enquirer is "If it ain't broke don't try to fix it". Which to an extent is good advice but I also think just like an oil change to the engine is essential servicing it must be for the trannys health!?

    I also think to really do this technically by the book an adaptation drive is essential. Link:- Tiptronic oil change ! - Page 2

    Now if we take sourcing oil for rear output for example highlighted in these 2 posts, Link 1 & Link 2 (more info view page 14 of SSP 385 , use google to gain, 1st hit) and doing the job plus adaptation drive. I think a lot of main / indie VAG places a) don't have experience thus don't want to do job wrongly b) don't want comebacks if tranny perform worse after the job.

    I can't remember if the post I read was concerning the earlier Tiptronic tranny ie in cars gen before (A6/C5) but someone with more experience stated the only thing Tiptronic suffers from in the main is lack of oil servicing.

    Due to the mini fortune my car swallowed in early ownership I'm not going all out on servicing tranny, so I guess perhaps each to their own? dependent upon how they envisage their current and future ownership of car?
     
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