Unknown cluster and DIS problem

**sbaffi** · 26-04-2013,12:05 PM

Hello everybody,

I have a problem I have not been able to solve yet, maybe you have a few ideas about it...

In 2009 I retrofitted MMI 3G on my 2006 Avant and everything worked perfectly besides the usual DTCs in the 5F main unit related to the SVM issue etc etc.

Last summer, before moving to the UK, I swapped my cluster for a highline one with mph and ACC (latest retrofit).

I removed the CP with AVDI and since then the DIS doesn't show neither media nor navi information

The steering wheel commands on the left are recognized by the system (checked with VCDS) but nothing happens, while the ones on the right are fine.
I can swap between digital tacho, ACC mode and board computers but nothing else appears.

Because of the way AVDI handles CP removal, I reflashed the cluster with my VAS5054a but that did not help. No DTCs are reported in neither the cluster nor the steering wheel module whatsoever.

After that, I updated the 3G to the 8R0906961CC but did not change the situation.

The only difference from before is that in the 5F Engineering Menu the cluster is not recognized; while with the old one the identification data
was fully shown and test mode was possible, now there is only a series of "Undefined"and no test is allowed.

There are some different DTCs in the 5F module I did not have before - which I will post later - but I am not sure they would depend on the telephone antenna connector that now is unplugged or on the cluster.

Has anybody ever had a similar problem?

**gupsterg** · 27-04-2013,01:18 PM

You know who I would suggest and you have had a post or two with them on other places...

Perhaps a retrofit out fit can help you, only other way is to find a thread via google where related work has been done...

IIRC there may one will have a check & post/PM...

Sorry got no better thoughts at present...

*** Update ***

I you sir! you must truly

car or doing retro fits

...
Considering the lack of responses to your posts on-line I truly

to how you have achieved them

...

I read some of your posts and how you used translators, etc to overcome language barrier but even then things can get lost in translation...
Big & take my to you!

**sbaffi** · 29-04-2013,07:06 AM

Hi Gupster!

I did spend a long time on Goggle already, I couldn't find a similar problem.

I even asked Abrites support and they confirmed that I needed to reflash after removing CP with their software, but it occurred to me they were never clear which module!

Maybe not the cluster (easy job) but the gateway needed the reflash so I am looking into that now.

**gupsterg** · 29-04-2013,09:32 AM

I have never done any of this stuff as my car has kept be busy with other things

... the retro fits I've done are so minor

...

AFAIK there are not many people on here which have done retro fitting to the degree you have done ...

You are already a member of a very good site which has good retro fit threads ... they are also there the people I would suggest ...

I think you will crack it!

... Attachment 20402 ...

Perhaps post the sections of fault log?

Your thread may attract another from the big WWW

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**sbaffi** · 29-04-2013,10:56 AM

Hi again Gupster,

I will post the VCDS scan this evening.

I know who you are referring to but to be honest I never expect any input from them anymore, they never even bothered to reply PMs I sent asking for help with past issues...I have more trust and faith in other forum people

Clearly the issue lies in the way AVDI bypasses the module security to "virginize" the EEPROM and write the CP bytes into it by using the gateway...Unfortunately I have been banned from the AVDI forum for complaining about it!!!

**gupsterg** · 29-04-2013,11:26 AM

Sorry to hear that

... post the log and see what happens mate

...

**sbaffi** · 29-04-2013,08:01 PM

Here is the log...

I just put in a different 5F unit to see if anything would happen, but no joy

These errors are present with the unlocked 5F module

03276 - Please Check Software Version Management
03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption
01524 - Antenna for Telephone
03254 - Address Incorrectly Occupied

The Klimatronic is a 3G one and waiting to be unlocked as well.

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Address 01: Engine (BDW) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 552 R HW: 4F0 907 552 D
Component: 2.4l V6 MPI 0010
Revision: --H17--- Serial number:
Coding: 010D000302070260
Shop #: WSC 00237 211 93091
VCID: 32608181AD0B2188E78

1 Fault Found:
009728 - Coolant Pump Control Circuit
P2600 - 009 - Open
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 8
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 97564 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.27
Time: 07:32:15

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 704 /min
Mass Air / Rev.: 109.0 mg/str
Temperature: 84.0°C
Idle
Load: 25.5 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h

Readiness: 0010 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01J-927-156.lbl
Part No SW: 4F1 910 155 F HW: 01J 927 156 JG
Component: V30 01J 2.4l 4V RdW 0050
Revision: --H06--- Serial number: 00000000000684
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00237 211 93091
VCID: 26486DD191C34D287B0

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 K HW: 4F0 614 517 K
Component: ESP 8.0 front H04 0090
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0021330
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 2C5C9FF98F2F7778AD4

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 HW: 4F0 905 852 B
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H31 0220
Revision: 31050601 Serial number: 10600600220855
Coding: 0000131
Shop #: WSC 00214 211 85625
VCID: E3CEB4C522717800DCE

Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H44 0070

Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H39 0040

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 B HW: 4F1 820 043 AL
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0070
Revision: 00000073 Serial number: 00000000612123
Coding: 0000262
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1D3A423DC4958EF02AA

7 Faults Found:
01087 - Basic Setting Not Performed
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 222
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2001.09.25
Time: 09:34:30

02785 - Right Front Upper Body Outlet Position Sensor (G388)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:15:43

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 13.30 V
(no units): 40.0
(no units): 255.0

02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 0
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2001.09.25
Time: 09:34:30

00732 - Potentiometer in Positioning Motor for Right-Hand Footwell Flap (G140)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:15:43

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 13.30 V
(no units): 40.0
(no units): 255.0

02763 - Potentiometer for Indirect Ventilation Flap Motor (G330)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:15:43

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 13.30 V
(no units): 30.0
(no units): 255.0

02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:15:43

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00001111

01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:15:43

Freeze Frame:
Temperature: 19.0°C

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 K HW: 4F0 907 279
Component: ILM Fahrer H17 0240
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0015121
Shop #: WSC 02335 758 00200
VCID: 31628E8DA80D1A909E2

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AudiC6 H05 0150
Coding: 00064784
Shop #: WSC 02335

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050
Coding: 00141886
Shop #: WSC 02335

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 110 E HW: 4E0 035 110 A
Component: MP3-Changer H44 0390
Revision: 00044000 Serial number: AUZ5ZBF3117379
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1A304921D5BBF9C8CF8

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F0 910 561 C HW: 4F0 907 561 B
Component: ABSTANDSREGELUNGH02 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0061158
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 234E74C5E2F1B8001CE

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:15:42

Freeze Frame:
Temperature: 22.0°C
Voltage: 13.57 V
Bin. Bits: 00000
Hex Value: 0x2513
Hex Value: 0x0007
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Lateral Accel.: 0.00 m/s^2

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 E HW: 4F0 959 655 B
Component: 42 AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0260
Revision: 07H29000 Serial number: 0037LD094YY$
Coding: 0013362
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 295266ED80DD6250562

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 HW: 4F0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H07 0230
Revision: 00H07000 Serial number: 90026051950266
Coding: 0002152
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: E6C8ADD1D1430D283B0

Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H07 0080

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 930 C HW: 4F0 920 981 K
Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H17 0170
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4R1374C16
Coding: 1232153
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 45725
VCID: 234E74C5E2F1B8001CE

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4L0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 468 A HW: 4E0 907 468 H
Component: J533__Gateway H06 0060
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 0300J08A1180B9
Coding: F555DE7721068600
Shop #: WSC 78387 152 45232
VCID: 2D5A92FDB4357E70BAA

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E HW: 4F0 959 793 E
Component: TSG FA H12 0050
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: v‚
Coding: 0001642
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2C5C9FF98F2F7778AD4

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 G HW: 4F0 907 289 G
Component: Komfortgeraet H19 0140
Revision: 01400019 Serial number: 01005747670000
Coding: 0140017
Shop #: WSC 00214 211 85625
VCID: 2E5895F1B9330568830

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Part No: 4F0 910 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 035 223 P HW: 4F0 035 223 P
Component: BOSE G3 C6 H01 0100
Revision: AG001300 Serial number: 00000000003356
Coding: 0D000000
Shop #: WSC 02399 823 56573
VCID: 295266ED40DD6250562

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H10 0080
Revision: Serial number: 00000000113490
Coding: 0001103
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: DEB88531091355E8F30

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E HW: 4F0 959 792 E
Component: TSG BF H12 0050
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: &iƒ
Coding: 0019050
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2C5C9FF98F2F7778AD4

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 HW: 4F0 907 801
Component: EPB C63C0030 H03 0030
Revision: C63C0030
Coding: 0002031
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: DDBA823D04154EF0EAA

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 357 HW: 4L0 907 357
Component: AFS 1 H01 0040
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000026
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E9D2A6EDC05D2250162

Part No: 4F0 941 329 D
Component: AFS-Modul links H02 0010

Part No: 4F0 941 329 D
Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 035 061 HW: 4F0 035 061
Component: Radio U DAB H41 H41 X194X194
Coding: 010102010100010101
Shop #: WSC 06752 666 28888
VCID: D9B2962DD03DB2D0862

No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred

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Address 57: TV Tuner (R78) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F0 919 129 G HW: 4F0 919 129
Component: HybridTV-DVB H07 0550
Revision: R0070000 Serial number: 76301301780101
Coding: 02010000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 30648B896307139891C

1 Fault Found:
00863 - Antenna 1 for TV (R55)
007 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100111
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:15:40

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 035 670 B HW: 4E0 035 670
Component: H-BNT-EU H64 0047
Revision: -------- Serial number: 346AW097541728
Coding: 010100010002E9FF01000715F71F0002
Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
VCID: 20447BC933E7A31801C

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604 HW: 4F0 919 604
Component: DU7 High H43 0306

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 609 E HW: 4F1 919 611 S
Component: Bedienteil MM H01 0060

6 Faults Found:
03276 - Please Check Software Version Management
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:16:59

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 13.70 V

03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:17:02

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00001000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000

02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:16:59

01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:17:10

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00010000

01524 - Antenna for Telephone
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:17:11

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 13.60 V

03254 - Address Incorrectly Occupied
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Mileage: 97584 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.05.28
Time: 11:16:59

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: ENERGIEMANAGER H12 0490
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000082989
Shop #: WSC 02335 823 00000
VCID: 234E74C5E2F1B8001CE

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 915 105 C
Component: von MLA 130320KTIC
Coding: 384B3039313531303543204D4C413133303332304B544943
Shop #: WSC 12345 384 00290

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E HW: 4F0 959 795 E
Component: TSG HL H21 0050
Coding: 0001066
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2E5895F1B9330568830

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 4F0-910-273-HI.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 273 C HW: 4F0 907 273 A
Component: Reifendruck 3 H05 0100
Revision: 00050100 Serial number: 00000700014329
Coding: 0202121
Shop #: WSC 00226 000 00000
VCID: 234E74C5E2F1B8001CE

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 441 E HW: 4L0 907 441 B
Component: J772__Rearview XT05
Revision: --H03--- Serial number: 525PA8-J8330RY
Coding: 1020605
Shop #: WSC 98765 666 38876
VCID: 224071C1FDEBB108178

1 Fault Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 224
Time Indication: 0

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E HW: 4F0 959 794 E
Component: TSG HR H21 0050
Coding: 0001066
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2E5895F1B9330568830

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 C HW: 4F0 919 283 C
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020
Revision: 00H12000 Serial number: 11820519201409
Coding: 0221016
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 244C77D9E7FFBF38654

No fault code found.

End

**gupsterg** · 29-04-2013,09:40 PM

Only thoughts for you to try...

Google Address 5F 03276 - Please Check Software Version Management

Once you are there, there is a calculator and a check that needs to be done and result used with calculator, enter answer where check was done...

This may help you

get rid of above fault ...

01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version

this is also there and calculator/check looks like fix for it ...

03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption

this is also there perhaps contact the poster of that log ...

Why are you getting this in 5F

02095 - Component Protection Active

Has AVDI not worked?

Google Address 5F 03254 - Address Incorrectly Occupied

This maybe related to CP if I'm understanding correctly the thread I read ... have read of it perhaps you will understand it better as are more submerged in MMI 3G...

@ the place where calculator is, post 41 stands out to me ...

I think module 17 is not the issue why DIS not functioning correctly... I think 5F at the route of your issue...

Over and out matey for tonight

will check tomorrow if there is anything more ...

**sbaffi** · 29-04-2013,11:05 PM

Thanks a bunch for the pointers...

Sorry did not explain myself...The 5F that was scanned is a spare one I put on to check whether the 3G headunit was the problem.

Tomorrow morning I will put the original 5F back on and rescan the car.

**sbaffi** · 01-05-2013,01:19 PM

LOL, dropped the car at Audi to unlock the 5F and they will return it only tomorrow...busy guys...I asked them to check the problem and look into reflashing the gateway.

Will see what happens