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    Back again, I'm considerin buying a newish (62 plate) A6 but, it's going to be my car, purchased with my money and basically I need to be happy Long term. Now, what I really fancy is a 3.0 ltr tdi 204hp with a multitronic box but I'm concerned about a couple of things. First off running costs, what I need to know is that the real world mpg isn't going to cripple me and alao , how reliable is the most recent incarnation of the multitronic. Theres lotsa horror stories but do they still apply? again, it's not going to be a company car and I want to run it for the next 10years. Any input would be gratefully recieved.
     
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    I didn't enjoy my time with a multi.

    Wouldn't reverse up my driveway without revving it to near 2000rpm. There is no creep in drive or reverse and if you plant it coming out of a junction there is a dangerous split second where nothing happens.

    Give me my tiptronic or even a s-tronic or manual.

    Timothy has a 3.0 TDi multitronic so hopefully he sees this.
     
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    My 2.0 multi creeps in drive. Annoyingly not in reverse though.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by A6_Chris View Post
    I didn't enjoy my time with a multi.

    Wouldn't reverse up my driveway without revving it to near 2000rpm. There is no creep in drive or reverse and if you plant it coming out of a junction there is a dangerous split second where nothing happens.

    Give me my tiptronic or even a s-tronic or manual.

    Timothy has a 3.0 TDi multitronic so hopefully he sees this.

    Hmmm, what year was yours Chris? problem is Multi seems to be the only option with s/h 3.0ltrs, I would prefer a manual but can't seem to see any. I will need to drive one (of course) but after all the pages of threads re Multi probs I wondered if they improved them at all.
     
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    Hi, I have a '61-reg Jan'12-delivered A6 multitronic, but only 2.0Tdi.

    I didn't enjoy my time with a multi.
    I have been really pleased with the gearbox. But then again I've never driven an A6 manual, tiptronic or s-tronic so I can't make any comparisons within the Audi range. I did an extended test drive in a Merc E-class when changing from my previous Volvo, and the A6 multitronic is, to me at least, a 'better' gearbox than either of these: very smooth, quiet, and controlled. I can just about understand those who consider it a bit too controlled.

    Wouldn't reverse up my driveway without revving it to near 2000rpm. There is no creep in drive or reverse ...
    Can't really comment here. This appears to be one of those situations where you either have the North Face of the Eiger for a driveway (where's the damned exaggerated-hyperbole-for-the-sake-of-amusement smiley when you need one?) And I'm a "don't".
    However some time ago, after reading some previous posts on the topic, I realised I didn't fully understand this 'creep' issue. Sure, on the flat, and even on mild hills, the car will take off on zero throttle just by releasing the foot brake. But after experimenting I realised what others meant by the lack of creep: this movement vs. brake release isn't proportional. You slowly lift your foot off the brake - nothing happens, the car still holds - you lift a bit further - still nothing - further ... - and eventually the car starts to move. Your still not 'quite' at the top of the brake travel at this point, but releasing the last few mm makes no further difference. You're already moving as fast as the untethered vehicle will go on zero throttle. There is definitely a digital tipping point at which you move from 'brake applied' to 'brake not applied'. You can gain some control by hovering your foot around this point but it's not as fine as proportional analogue control would be. Does it bother me? Not that much. You adapt and move on.

    and if you plant it coming out of a junction there is a dangerous split second where nothing happens.
    I agree with part of this. If you do flatten the throttle pedal there does seem to be pause when nothing happens and the world spins on by, leaves change colour, the seasons come and go, children grow up, leave home and have families of their own, you get round to writing that book you'd always promised yourself, you retire to the Algarve, come back to the car and suddenly, whoomphh!, off you go. But to be honest, as Chris said, it is actually a split second. And a small split second at that. Having experienced it once or twice and understood the car's characteristics, you adjust and adapt and move on. There's no point in persisting with it at junctions when you know your expectations are not what the car provides.
     
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    Hi, I have a 61 plate Nov 2011 registered 3.0tdi multi and find it to be a really smooth and refined combination of engine and gearbox. As others (myself included) have mentioned, the multi box does seem to have a bit of an issue reversing up gradients -- my drive is on such a gradient and it's a fine balancing act to get just the right amount of revs to ascend it in a dignified manner. I've had many occasions where the car will actually roll forward by a foot or two which I'm sure isn't right, but the dealers say "they all do that".

    As for getaway, I think the drive select setting probably makes a difference: efficiency mode seems to dampen the throttle quite a bit, but the auto setting feels much better. I also think (could be just me) that it's not necessarily how far you press the accelerator but somehow how quickly you depress it e.g. a quick stab at the throttle will make the car react with more urgency (like it's fully engaging the clutch more quickly). As I say, could just be me.

    Overall, I'm very pleased with it, plus I've got the best winter mpg figures than I've had on any other car -- and my last car was an A4 2.0TDIe manual.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by By-Tor View Post
    Hi, I have a 61 plate Nov 2011 registered 3.0tdi multi and find it to be a really smooth and refined combination of engine and gearbox. As others (myself included) have mentioned, the multi box does seem to have a bit of an issue reversing up gradients -- my drive is on such a gradient and it's a fine balancing act to get just the right amount of revs to ascend it in a dignified manner. I've had many occasions where the car will actually roll forward by a foot or two which I'm sure isn't right, but the dealers say "they all do that".

    As for getaway, I think the drive select setting probably makes a difference: efficiency mode seems to dampen the throttle quite a bit, but the auto setting feels much better. I also think (could be just me) that it's not necessarily how far you press the accelerator but somehow how quickly you depress it e.g. a quick stab at the throttle will make the car react with more urgency (like it's fully engaging the clutch more quickly). As I say, could just be me.

    Overall, I'm very pleased with it, plus I've got the best winter mpg figures than I've had on any other car -- and my last car was an A4 2.0TDIe manual.
    Thanks for this, what sort of mpg do you get?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KAM View Post
    I agree with part of this. If you do flatten the throttle pedal there does seem to be pause when nothing happens and the world spins on by, leaves change colour, the seasons come and go, children grow up, leave home and have families of their own, you get round to writing that book you'd always promised yourself, you retire to the Algarve, come back to the car and suddenly, whoomphh!, off you go. But to be honest, as Chris said, it is actually a split second. And a small split second at that. Having experienced it once or twice and understood the car's characteristics, you adjust and adapt and move on. There's no point in persisting with it at junctions when you know your expectations are not what the car provides.
    I do agree, but in Sport, if you are really trying, that problem goes away. Well, at least it seems to for me. But in Drive, you've nailed the description.
     
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    Whippy the car wasn't mine, it was a loan car while my C6 was in for its MOT.

    However, I only had a week with the gearbox and maybe it wasn't enough time to adapt to it, but in that short period, I didn't particularity enjoy it, but it was uber smooth when it got going and did provide excellent MPG over 600 miles which was all motorway and averaged out at 47 mpg over the 100% motorway driving.



    Quote Originally Posted by by-tor
    my drive is on such a gradient and it's a fine balancing act to get just the right amount of revs to ascend it in a dignified manner. I've had many occasions where the car will actually roll forward by a foot or two which I'm sure isn't right, but the dealers say "they all do that".
    I experienced this too reversing up my driveway, where I would come off the throttle to double check over my shoulder, the car stopped and nearly rolled into my A3 before I noticed what was going on.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by A6_Chris View Post
    Whippy the car wasn't mine, it was a loan car while my C6 was in for its MOT.

    However, I only had a week with the gearbox and maybe it wasn't enough time to adapt to it, but in that short period, I didn't particularity enjoy it, but it was uber smooth when it got going and did provide excellent MPG over 600 miles which was all motorway and averaged out at 47 mpg over the 100% motorway driving.





    I experienced this too reversing up my driveway, where I would come off the throttle to double check over my shoulder, the car stopped and nearly rolled into my A3 before I noticed what was going on.
    Thanks Chris, yes saw the post and should have remembered (facepalm) super pics though, one of the posts that have helped to make up my mind.
     
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