Fitting RCD 300 to RCD 510 in a 2006 Golf GTI using VCDS - Can it be done?

[richard@thebrae]

This site will explain the problem and the solution clearly
RCD 510 | my-gti.com

, your can gateway must be at least a "K" level revision which is circa 2008, before this level, they need to be changed at a cost of circa £90. VCDS cannot reprogram the Can Gateway, VAS will, but getting a VW garage to do it will be difficult and cost as much. There is a Polish equivalent to VCDS which can reprogram CanBus moduals.
Gateways are available on Ebay and it is fitted above the foot pedals takes about 45 mins and some skinned knuckles. Good "howto available"
You will then need VCDS to reprogam it (having 1st copied the settings in the old Gateway using VCDS before removal) all is very straight forward with the help of Google.

[gogzyb]

Thanks for your very thorough reply!

Is VCDS something that many "independents" are likely to have? I will order a Revision K Can Gateway from eBay and will have a look for an independent in Glasgow with VCDS.

I assume that once the new Can Gateway has been programmed into the car, the stereo should then "plug and go"?

Thanks

Gordon

[richard@thebrae]

I think you will find that the Gateways on ebay will be a revision higher than a "K" which is good and the price is much the same they tend to be double letters now like "AA" ect. Make sure it is for a Golf.(see the part No on the attached scan, you can also see that it is a revision Q)
VCDS is something an independent may have and many individuals have also. Try on here for a "local forum member/enthuiasast" who will help you out, or the VWNavi forum.
I am about 50 miles away from you and will help if I can.
The programming is simple as it is prompt led and tick box really and all you will be doing is copying the old data over. Here is a copy of a Gateway reading by VCDS (including faults) note the software coding.

Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H16 0202
Revision: H16 Serial number: 2700K08A070E94
Coding: ED807F060002020003
Shop #: WSC 00286 210 96954

2 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 245
Mileage: 16523 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 12:16:39

01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 16523 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 12:16:44
It is not complicated as long as you think about what your doing.You will not be disappointed with your RCD 510, reception and sound is magnificent compared to the RCD 300
Regards Richard

[gogzyb]

Hi

Thanks for your reply - I have found a Canbus Gateway on eBay for £39.99, this looks to be the correct version, with the all important K.

VW GOLF MK5 CAN BUS GATEWAY COMPUTER MODULE 1K0 907 530 K GENUINE VOLKSWAGEN | eBay

I will let you know how I get on with an independent, but failing that - I could always drive the 50 miles if you wouldn't mind helping me out with coding the Gateway?

Thanks

Gordon

[richard@thebrae]

I would try and find one a bit later issue if possible such as
CAN GATEWAY/ DATA BUS VW SKODA MFD RNS510 RCD510 RNS RCD Golf 7N0 907 530R | eBay

[richard@thebrae]

Here is a pic of the back of an RNS 510 if your RCD is the same you need the antenna adapter as pic
Although the back is open you can see the beige twin antenna fitting of the RNS 510 and if the RCD is the same you will need the adator. RNS510 MFD3 radio antenna adapter VW SEAT RCD510 310 | eBay
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[gogzyb]

Thanks Richard, I have ordered the antenna adapter and Canbus Gateway from eBay, so hopefully they will arrive soon!

Best regards

Gordon

[Danb28]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for you previous post. I am working in this aswell and I am at the stage of buying the RCD510. The install car is an EOS 2007.

I have spent the last few weeks looking at the install requirements on forums and I think I need the following,

A New CAN BUS 530 L or newer... I see some on EBay that come "Pre programed" ?
A Connector cable and software (Not sure what I need and where to get it)
Obviously the RCD510 Unit.

Can you point me in the right direction of the cable and software I would need? I see some at £12 and some at £80. Im a bit confused with it all.

The next step i'm looking at the AC upgrade. Another mine field... but I will come back to that.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Danny

[richard@thebrae]

Danny the " pucka " VCDS cable is made by " Rosstech " and supplied in the UK by " Gendan " and it costs £260. Chinese clones are what you see on internet sites and are not recommended or discussed on most forums as VAG group sponser most of the forums. Rosstech frown upon them also.
The gateway change on an EOS is also necessary and I will look up the location for you if needed.
The antenna cable adapter is also required, plenty on Ebay.
I am sure a fellow Glaswegian is near you with a VCDS Cable and will help for a few beer tokens.
You can PM me with an Email for some help if required.

[Danb28]

Danny the " pucka " VCDS cable is made by " Rosstech " and supplied in the UK by " Gendan " and it costs £260. Chinese clones are what you see on internet sites and are not recommended or discussed on most forums as VAG group sponser most of the forums. Rosstech frown upon them also.
The gateway change on an EOS is also necessary and I will look up the location for you if needed.
The antenna cable adapter is also required, plenty on Ebay.
I am sure a fellow Glaswegian is near you with a VCDS Cable and will help for a few beer tokens.
You can PM me with an Email for some help if required.

Hi Richard,

Thank you for your prompt response.

Yes, the cost of this cable would be prohibitive for me. I was looking at this CANBUS Gateway on ebay. This is marked as pre coded. Do you think that means I would not need the VCDS cable? VW CAN Gateway CAN BUS Precoded RNS510 RCD Skoda Columbus Bolero Golf Mk5 Gti | eBay

Im new to this forum today, previously i have just went for it and had some pretty good outcomes with MK5 and MK4 head unit changes. But i knew this would be a little more complex. I will put a shout out to see if anyone has a VCDs cable. If not have you heard of a dealer doing this work with parts supplied?

Im not sure of the Gateway version i have currently. Its a pity as i understand just 6 months later the new type would be compatible. GUTTED!

Cheers for your help

Danny