ZF 6HP19A tiptronic gearbox (A6 3.0 TDI Quattro)

[apole]

Agree with the above. I've looked at this before and spoken in length with others including Gup.

I just had my fluid changed when I bought the car at 40k. Will be sticking with oil changes at 30-40k intervals and only using lifeguard 6 fluid. There are others that meet the spec including Shell, Ravenol etc. Some seem far cheaper, but is it worth mixing them?

Out of interest Gup found a good UK supplier, Bristol Transmissions, they do just the fluid for a good price, or a complete change kit (less the tools to refill).

Heres a link for more info:

http://www.bristoltransmissions.co.uk/shop/product.php?id_product=25

　

Be interested in what ZF have to say on the matter, but can't see that regular changes with the correct fluid can do any harm if they are done from the outset.

[gupsterg]

ZF do recommend/have oil change kits... Link:- ZF Parts | oil change kits

So I'm assuming what is at question is the software update?

[techfreak]

ZF do recommend/have oil change kits... Link:- ZF Parts | oil change kits

So I'm assuming what is at question is the software update?

My understanding from what taz said is it only needs updating if you manage to fully update your oil from old to new I.e 6 to 8.

If not then only oil needs changing and other consumables can anyone clarify what these are i.e. filter/gasket? Edit: I think I've answered this looking at the above links.

My only question then would be how often should we do this? I'm guessing every 40k is ok but maybe less if you drive the car quite hard more often than not?

[gupsterg]

My understanding from what taz said is it only needs updating if you manage to fully update your oil from old to new I.e 6 to 8.

The TSB/TPI only relates to genuine Audi oil ...

So does anyone know what ZF Lifeguard / equivalent is the genuine oils G 060 162 A2 (green) & G 055 162 A2 (blue)?

[MarkTM]

My understanding from what taz said is it only needs updating if you manage to fully update your oil from old to new I.e 6 to 8.

If not then only oil needs changing and other consumables can anyone clarify what these are i.e. filter/gasket? Edit: I think I've answered this looking at the above links.

My only question then would be how often should we do this? I'm guessing every 40k is ok but maybe less if you drive the car quite hard more often than not?

Change more often if

1) You tow (greater strain)
2) If your engine has ever overheated (cooked ATF)

If neither AND taking into account the 80k warranty/sealed for life issue 40k may be a little too soon for a Tip, am going to get mine done now (88k) and every 50k henceforth.

Weird that the ZF kit is this price from Bristol transmissions as they quoted me £272.40 inc VAT to do the work...but then there is labour involved.

They shall be doing mine and I've asked them to:

a) Let me take pics
b) Have a sample of the oil to send away for analysis to Blackstone for analysis*

They were a little surprised as have never been asked for a sample of the old fluid before!

* Blackstone Labs

[techfreak]

Change more often if

1) You tow (greater strain)
2) If your engine has ever overheated (cooked ATF)

If neither AND taking into account the 80k warranty/sealed for life issue 40k may be a little too soon for a Tip, am going to get mine done now (88k) and every 50k henceforth.

Weird that the ZF kit is this price from Bristol transmissions as they quoted me £272.40 inc VAT to do the work...but then there is labour involved.

They shall be doing mine and I've asked them to:

a) Let me take pics
b) Have a sample of the oil to send away for analysis to Blackstone for analysis*

They were a little surprised as have never been asked for a sample of the old fluid before!

* Blackstone Labs

Thanks for clarifying.

That's a good price I'd say then.

Anyone know what the difference is between what apole posted and this kit:-

ZF Life, Shell M 1375.4,Transmission Fluid, ATF,ZF 6 sump/filter assm

@gups I assumed the oil what Audi use is the zf oil rebranded?

[gupsterg]

@gups I assumed the oil what Audi use is the zf oil rebranded?

Why I asked question...

So does anyone know what ZF Lifeguard / equivalent is the genuine oils G 060 162 A2 (green) & G 055 162 A2 (blue)?

Is that if we are studying TSB/SSP we can see there where three oils used in production...

Production change

1. Optimised ATF (blue) from February 2005

2. Optimised ATF (green) from March 2008

The third was what was used before Feb 2005 (older transmission serial) that would need the software update...
@Mark be great if you could also get a software log of TCM before/after work and will eagerly be awaiting your experience share ...

[_Tazman_]

Pic of the sump when removed ( note the clean wipe mark on the filter based ).

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I also took a pic of my ATF pumping system. Remember, keep it simple !! Plus you can also measure what you take out with what you put in !

Cleanliness IS VERY IMPORTANT.

HTH

[MarkTM]

Taz what mileage did you have on yours and was it its first ever change (to your knowledge)?

Regardless it all looks pretty clean...was there much crud or fluid discolouration?

[_Tazman_]

Mark, I did my change at about 48K.

This is definitely the 1st ever change it has had, there was nothing else in the service history, apart from that crappy long life stamp !

They never even changed the diesel filters ( I know, as I did it, and 3 out of the 6 glow plugs were O/C ).

Audi servicing my **** !

It wasn't too bad the residue, typical clutch band wear & some fine particles, but no alarming chunks / slivers of metal. Definitely worth doing. The oil whilst being a bit dirty, was still yellowish.