Pads need replacing - would anybody recommend Pagid?

[zollaf]

i think there are lots of problems with many parts . i used to fit a lot of ferodo stuff. fitted some rear pads to my 80. a few months later had handbrake problems, the pads had rusted and the braking material broken up.. not good, put it down to a one off, then had a customers pugrot with the exact same pads do the exact same thing. ( yes, the french use the same calipers on their modern stuff as audi did 20 years ago). it seems whatever you buy, they try to make it cheaper elsewhere and quality goes out the window. sometimes wonder if its better to just buy the cheapest of the cheap and hope for the best. wait until dayco move production to china. ???

[Crasher]

Ultimately WE (as in the Royal we, AKA UK customers) only have ourselves to blame for the poor standards of replacement parts because we chase the price, not the standard. In the aftermarket trade as a worldwide business, the UK is seen as THE most price obsessed market there is, when I have spoken to reps and manufactures from other countries at trade shows such as Automechnanica, they look at the UK parts market in despair and are of the opinion we only by cheap Chinese ****. That is why it is very difficult (even impossible) in the UK to get hold of aftermarket parts from some very well established German brands such as ATE, Ernst, Hella, Leistriz, FTE, Optimal, Ruville, TRW etc etc as these companies have tried and failed to build a market here and just watched as we buy cheap rubbish.

[Strath44]

Ultimately WE (as in the Royal we, AKA UK customers) only have ourselves to blame for the poor standards of replacement parts because we chase the price, not the standard. In the aftermarket trade as a worldwide business, the UK is seen as THE most price obsessed market there is, when I have spoken to reps and manufactures from other countries at trade shows such as Automechnanica, they look at the UK parts market in despair and are of the opinion we only by cheap Chinese ****. That is why it is very difficult (even impossible) in the UK to get hold of aftermarket parts from some very well established German brands such as ATE, Ernst, Hella, Leistriz, FTE, Optimal, Ruville, TRW etc etc as these companies have tried and failed to build a market here and just watched as we buy cheap rubbish.

That sadly makes total sense!

Personally I try and look at it the other way round......as I am in the lucky situation to be able to do a lot the of routine maintainance I always buy the best quality parts (often from the manufacturer) based on research irrevlevant of price as I am saving money on labour.

This is my first Audi and I have been quite surprised how difficult as a newcomer the parts situation was, I have found both local dealerships expensive and unhelpful for parts, Since finding Tps things have been much better as they are very good and helpful.

[Crasher]

The TPS concept has been a life saver and we have built good friendships with the chaps and chapesses that work there. The VITAL tools for me running a VAG indi workshop and parts shop are VIN lookup to part number (AKA FI suggestion) systems and VAG to aftermarket cross referencing software combined with a handful of local factors who are agents for my preferred products OR even direct accounts if I can get one.

[Gazwould]

I've been using Pagid on all my cars for over 5 years and I've just had my first issue!

I have a 12 plate Passat which had TRW as OEM the discs did nearly 90k on the rear and 140k on the front! Pads usually last about 40k ish.
I got Pagid Discs and pads from ECP for the rear last year and the pads have only lasted 11k miles and worn right down to the shim damaging the disc! They were sent away and now refunded as they should have lasted longer, the brake system was tested and all ok and no abnormal loads were carried in that time nor crazy driving!

I have read on another forum that although Pagid is OEM for some car manufacturers, the Pagid products supplied by ECP are not to the same standard and produced specially for ECP.

I have fitted Textar this time to the A6 as I have now lost confidence in Pagid. Now ironically I think textar comes out the same factory as pagid but my understanding is it it produced to a higher spec!

Evidence would suggest that ECP own Pagid and Textar with Textar being of higher quality .

[Crasher]

Pagid and Textar are part of TMD Friction Services GmbH which is part of the Japanese company Nisshinbo Holdings Inc, Mintex plus the lesser known DON are part of the group.

I used to insist on Textar on the rear of PQ34 platform cars but I started to get glazing and squealing issues especially on the vented rears which would moan and groan like a demented Wooki in when reversing; the Pagid pads are less prone to this problem

[zollaf]

not so much of a problem in the good old days. car would be in for a service every 3000 miles, pads would last 6000 miles, but discs would last forever. you knew your car needed a service when the speedo had done 3000 more miles than the last time it was serviced, and you brakes needed to be changed when they stared to grind a little, and no one moaned about getting it done, and you fitted whatever your supplier supplied, they were all mostly good, apart from direct components. i fitted some pads to an astra i had. 400 miles later they were gone..