2.0 TDI Not Starting

[gupsterg]

Some of these faults are historical...

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 K HW: 4F0 614 517 K
Component: ESP 8.0 front H04 0090
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0020855
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 2C57BA7F8F54C578ADD

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 229
Mileage: 202680 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.09.27
Time: 17:57:51

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0300
Hex Value: 0x0006
Hex Value: 0x0003
Hex Value: 0x1667
Hex Value: 0x00FF


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They could be unrelated or intermittent...

Scans are good as starting point... but you can draw wrong conclusions as well if not read correctly...

So usually how I use my scans is i) scan car ii) clear faults iii) scan car see what comeback again

Besides battery going flat and car not starting you've had no other issues?

[cassy]

My only other issue has been the AC blowing out hot air when on cold and ive read about a sensor that could be causing this issue.

Totally agree with scans being the starting point and missed the date stamps. I am thinking it will be work ppurchasing a cable and keeping a regular check on the car.

How would I check if the MMI and ECU firmwares need updating?

All of the battery regulator error codes are from 2011, could I have another issue?

[gupsterg]

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000192342
Shop #: WSC 02335 823 00000
VCID: 23455143E28A0A001C7

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 C
Component: von VA0 1601040500
Coding: 344630393135313035432056413031363031303430353030
Shop #: WSC 00000 512 00290

5 Faults Found:
02272 - Quiescent Current Stage 1
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 17
Mileage: 177156 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.08.04
Time: 14:54:50

02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 16
Mileage: 1048575 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.08.04
Time: 14:56:25

02276 - Quiescent Current Stage 5
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 6
Mileage: 181619 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.11.01
Time: 16:06:17

02274 - Quiescent Current Stage 3
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 5
Mileage: 181619 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.11.01
Time: 16:12:51

02277 - Quiescent Current Stage 6
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 5
Mileage: 181619 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.11.01
Time: 16:13:01


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Deactivation stages

The individual deactivation stages are initiated by the energy management control unit in line with the charge of the vehicle battery.

The deactivation stages result in the following:

– Deactivation stage 1
Convenience CAN loads are deactivated.

– Deactivation stage 2
Initiation of this stage results in
deactivation of additional convenience
CAN loads. Certain infotainment system
restrictions are implemented.

– Deactivation stage 3
Reduction of the closed-circuit current is
initiated.

– Deactivation stage 4 – Transportation
mode
This deactivation stage is activated by way
of the diagnosis unit and cannot be
initiated independently by the energy
management control unit.

– Deactivation stage 5
The auxiliary heater is deactivated

– Deactivation stage 6
Bus system wake-up action is reduced.

I can get faults like that whilst cleaning car... and letting things run...

So does the flat battery/not starting happen regular?

I could not make sense of the version from VCDS log for your MMI version... press "Car"... then "Setup"... then select "Settings"... then "xxx Version"

[AudiDoDis]

Anything in the Gateway Installation List, the text starting below the VIN number, is VCDS checking what modules are installed and what their status is, OK=OK, Malfunction=Malfunction.

The thing that I am a little confused about is the 009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent for the indicator

[gupsterg]

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 G HW: 4F0 907 289 G
Component: Komfortgeraet H22 0170
Revision: 01700022 Serial number: 01009797950000
Coding: 0000251
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 2E53B077B948B768839

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Part No: 4F0 910 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020

1 Fault Found:
01505 - Bulb for Blinkers; Rear Right (M8)
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 30
Reset counter: 204
Mileage: 202484 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.09.25
Time: 17:33:55


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i) a bulb out..

ii) loose connection...

If bulb out... once replaced fault goes from DIS... but kept in module memory... [Address 46: Central Conv.]

[cassy]

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000192342
Shop #: WSC 02335 823 00000
VCID: 23455143E28A0A001C7

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 C
Component: von VA0 1601040500
Coding: 344630393135313035432056413031363031303430353030
Shop #: WSC 00000 512 00290

5 Faults Found:
02272 - Quiescent Current Stage 1
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 17
Mileage: 177156 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.08.04
Time: 14:54:50

02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 16
Mileage: 1048575 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.08.04
Time: 14:56:25

02276 - Quiescent Current Stage 5
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 6
Mileage: 181619 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.11.01
Time: 16:06:17

02274 - Quiescent Current Stage 3
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 5
Mileage: 181619 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.11.01
Time: 16:12:51

02277 - Quiescent Current Stage 6
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 5
Mileage: 181619 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2011.11.01
Time: 16:13:01

It has only happened the once and I then put in a help request for VCDS.

Car cleaning could be the culprit because I am always cleaning her.

I am going to get the battery tested and see what the result is, there is no issue with removing the battery to take it to a garage for testing is there?

There is also no warning of a flat battery on the MMI or DIS and never has been.

I will post up the MMI version soon, how would I get the ECU version?

Cheers

[cassy]

Anything in the Gateway Installation List, the text starting below the VIN number, is VCDS checking what modules are installed and what their status is, OK=OK, Malfunction=Malfunction.

The thing that I am a little confused about is the 009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent for the indicator

Funnily enough I asked if it is normal for the blown bulb to stay in the module memory because the garage that changed it said they had an issue when changing the bulb because the new one didnt work. They changed it for another new bulb which didnt work then the third one did.

At the time I though it was just bad luck to get 2 new broken bulbs but now im not so sure.

[Guest 2]

It has only happened the once and I then put in a help request for VCDS.

Car cleaning could be the culprit because I am always cleaning her.

I am going to get the battery tested and see what the result is, there is no issue with removing the battery to take it to a garage for testing is there?

There is also no warning of a flat battery on the MMI or DIS and never has been.

I will post up the MMI version soon, how would I get the ECU version?

Cheers

Just a 10mm spanner is needed - under the floor in the boot.

Remember to undo the negative first and when reconnecting turn your sidelights on before reconnecting as if there is a power surge they will blow first and not something important.

[gupsterg]

On my Avant if you remove battery, boot is does not open from outside as the mechanism is electronic ( I do not have electric tailgate)

So wedge boot open...

If you do not have fold down rear seats and this is the same on saloon you will be stuck....

[cassy]

Cant thank you guys enough for helping me out with this, battery will be going for testing next week and hopefully that will cure the problem.

Will let you know how I get on.