Cost of replacement clutch and Dual Mass Flywheel (2.0TDI)

[Ratfink]

I had been having trouble selecting second gear when the car A4(143), was cold started. Having viewed a few threads on this forum, I took the car back to Lomond Audi, Ayr, asking that they have a look at it as it is coming to the end of its warranty. They took it in on Thursday last week and called today to say they had fitted a new DMF and clutch as both were defunct.

I am a bit surprised as the only symptom was a sticky second gear. Interestingly they said the work will all be done through the warranty as the clutch and DMF are guaranteed for 60,000 miles or 3 years.
hopefully get the car back tomorrow, bit done as they gave me a lovely brand new A5 to cut about in.

Lomond have been very good so far with all the dealings I have had with them, will definatly go back to them when this car is paid off.

[fishus101]

My 2.0TDI A6 has just hit 91,000 miles and started getting that judder from 1st going into 2nd gear. My local Transmission Specialist has quoted £475 for the new DMF, clutch, bolts and oil with £250 labour. They said it will probably take a whole day but could go into a 2nd day so will lend me a car in the meantime.

[chillsg]

I had been having trouble selecting second gear when the car A4(143), was cold started. Having viewed a few threads on this forum, I took the car back to Lomond Audi, Ayr, asking that they have a look at it as it is coming to the end of its warranty. They took it in on Thursday last week and called today to say they had fitted a new DMF and clutch as both were defunct.

I am a bit surprised as the only symptom was a sticky second gear. Interestingly they said the work will all be done through the warranty as the clutch and DMF are guaranteed for 60,000 miles or 3 years.
hopefully get the car back tomorrow, bit done as they gave me a lovely brand new A5 to cut about in.

Lomond have been very good so far with all the dealings I have had with them, will definatly go back to them when this car is paid off.

Hi Ratfink,

I have just been told the reason for my noisy engine bay is the DMF by an independent and Audi dealer. it's a 58 plate with just less than 60K miles. I bought it from a private car dealer a couple of years ago. do you think it should still be covered by the original 60k warranty from Audi?

Have you seen this warranty term written down somewhere?

Thanks.

[rufus2005]

Fishus, I think that is a reasonable price you got there. The timing seems right, my dmf and clutch replacement took the whole day due to the damage that had been done when the flywheel disintegrated.

ChilsG, have you got any warranty on your car? If not I doubt Audi would be interested due to the age of the car, although if when its stripped you can show that the dmf has failed and damaged the clutch you could possibly get some help from audi if you write a strongly worded letter.

regards

Rufus

[chillsg]

Thanks Rufus, checked the Audi Warranty today. 60K or 3 years whichever comes FIRST. So out of warranty now. Still pretty poor that the clutch and flywheel needs changing at less than 60k miles!

Does anyone know if the Sachs or LUK DMF's available on the market today (eg. Eurocarparts) have been changed in design since when they were fitted to the first B8 A4's ie. 58 plate. Since they were clearly unfit for purpose?

[fat controller]

I was under the impression that they were a modified part.

If its any consolation, you are not alone with a failure at those miles - I had mine replaced at 67k, shortly after I bought the car.

[chillsg]

There does seem to be a theme of these DMF'S failing just outside warranty. Anyone gone down the route of the Sale of goods act 1979 with regard to unfit for purpose/ poor quality either with Audi, the flywheel manufacturer or private dealer? Or even with the creditor if bought through Hire Purchase, since the creditor that has a contractual responsibility to you if the item is faulty?

[fat controller]

There does seem to be a theme of these DMF'S failing just outside warranty. Anyone gone down the route of the Sale of goods act 1979 with regard to unfit for purpose/ poor quality either with Audi, the flywheel manufacturer or private dealer? Or even with the creditor if bought through Hire Purchase, since the creditor that has a contractual responsibility to you if the item is faulty?

The cost of mine was covered fully, partly by the selling dealer and partly by the dealer backed 12-month warranty, so I got lucky. How long have you had the car?

[chillsg]

I bought it just over a year ago. Came with a standard 6 month warranty. Looks like I should have upgraded to the 24 month policy!

[rufus2005]

I think the problem you are going to have with the sale of goods act in this case is that it seems these mileages are pretty normal for most makes of car that have dual mass flywheels. I went through 3 clutches in 1 1/2 years on a new vauxhall astra a few years back due to the dmf causing damage. I also owned a Saab 9-3 Tid and they had the same problem. I now am going to buy a Hyundai Coupe 2.7 V6 as a second car and surprise surprise they have the same issue with clutch/dmf too, in fact its quite common thet they need replacement at as low as 30 odd thousand miles.

So all in all this seems a widespread problem with dmf's.