iphone fix for 2012 and data sim fix

[a8 tech]

Telephone Selecting the telephone mode some tips and also how it works and how it can be best used for individuals


The car phone can be switched to various modes at Telephone -> Settings -> Telephone mode

Automatic

Telephony optimised

Data services optimised

Various settings are required/recommended for each customer usage profile.

Telephone Selecting the telephone mode

Automatic

Fast data connection in the UMTS (3G) network is available in the vehicle

Data and speech can be transferred at the same time

Depending on availability, the telephone module switches automatically between UMTS and GSM networks

Duringa telephone conversation, the network can be switched from 3G to 2G; this cannot be reversed

Audio problems when switching from 3G to 2G are to be expected

In the worst case, the danger is the conversation breaking up sporadically during the journey when switching from UMTS to the GSM network

In GSM mode, the data rate is reduced and Wi-Fi is deactivated to ensure telephone calls can be received. During a conversation, Google Earth accesses the buffered data in GSM mode.
Telephone Selecting the telephone mode

Telephony optimised

The telephone module only uses GSM (2G) networks

Data services at lower speeds are available

Data services are not available during a telephone call

Telephony quality corresponds to the quality in D3 Recommended for users who prioritise availability of voice telephony
Telephone Selecting the telephone mode


Data services optimised

Same as "Automatic"

WLAN Hotspot (iPad) also available for GSM reception in all networks (with "Automatic", only in the T-Mobile network due to particular configuration of T-Mobile networks)Recommended for users who prioritise fast data connection


iphone fix 2012 >

Infotainment system MY12 improvements

New address book function for iPhone with BTA in MMI3G+

New functionality:

Customer has an iPhone and a couple of "Multi-SIM" cards.

One SIM card is in the iPhone, second SIM card is in the MMI SIM card reader

iPhone connected to MMI via Bluetooth.

Result:

SIM card in card reader allows reception via roof aerial and online services

Bluetooth connection to the iPhone allows access to the iPhone Phonebook


Operation:
The following operating steps are required to be able to use these functions:

The first SIM card is already inserted in the MMI card reader

The second SIM card is in the HFP-enabled mobile telephone

Start Bluetooth device search from MMI

The device found is offered only with the Audioplayer or Address book profiles

Select the (Address book) option


New address book function for iPhone with BTA in MMI3G+

Compatibility:The function is not restricted to the iPhone. It can be used on all mobile telephones that support the Phone book download; see database for mobile devices.http://www.audi.com/com/brand/en/tools/bluetooth.html

Application options:The first SIM card can also be inserted in a SAP mobile telephone or a handset.The following variants are possible:

SIM in card reader +HFP mobile telephone in address book profile

SIM in handset +HFP mobile telephone in address book profile

SIM in SAP mobile telephone +HFP mobile telephone in address book profile In addition, one of the mobile telephones can be connected in the Audioplayer profile, if supported bythe mobile telephone.



New adapter cable for the iPod/iPhone:A new adapter cable with integrated Apple chip is required for the new Audi Music Interface functions to work. Part number: 4F0 051 510 R
Infotainment system MY12 improvementsNew functions for the Audi Music Interface MMI3G+ and RMC

Supported devices:The following Apple devices support the new functions:

iPod Nano 5G with FW 1.0.2 or higher

iPod Touch 1G with FW 3.0.0 or higher

iPod Touch 2G with FW 3.0.0 or higher

iPod Touch 3G with FW 3.0.0 or higher

iPhone 1G with FW 3.0.0 or higher

iPhone 3G with FW 3.0.0 or higher

iPhone 3GS with FW 3.0.0 or higher

iPhone 4G with FW 3.0.0 or higher

audi phone software updates http://www.audi.com/com/brand/en/too...ner=layerModal

http://www.audi.com/com/brand/en/too...ner=layerModal

[MFGF]

Thanks A8,

Just so I understand - when a sim is inserted into the dashboard, the car will make/receive calls using the dashboard sim, but the phonebook from the iPhone is still available? This makes sense from what I have seen on my car - I have three bluetooth connections available for my iPhone - one is the hfp connection for making/receiving calls, one is for streaming media and the third appears to be for contacts. When the phone is connected via hfp the contacts connection appears greyed out, and when the sim is inserted into the dash, the hfp connection disconnects and greys out and the contacts connection links up.

Thanks for the info - very much appreciated!

MF.

[a8 tech]

yep

[Guest 2]

Thanks A8, thread stuck incase some miss it ..

[jbanfie]

Hi I like the idea of "Multi-SIM" as that appears to address the issue of no rSAP in the iphone?

Do O2, Orange, Vodafone etc enable you to have 2 SIMs on the same phone number then?

I take it you just phone your mobile company and they will send you one which you just place in the car, or is there more to it?

Regards

Jon (Car coming soon and thought I might have to go Android)

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I now realise I should have not gone anywhere near this topic, but sadly I cannot delete my post!

[Guest 2]

Have a skim through https://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/s...-Mobile-Phones and https://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/s...-data-Services

[s555]

Hi I like the idea of "Multi-SIM" as that appears to address the issue of no rSAP in the iphone?

Do O2, Orange, Vodafone etc enable you to have 2 SIMs on the same phone number then?

I take it you just phone your mobile company and they will send you one which you just place in the car, or is there more to it?

Regards

Jon (Car coming soon and thought I might have to go Android)

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I now realise I should have not gone anywhere near this topic, but sadly I cannot delete my post!

LOL!! There is not a single provider in the UK that provides "multi SIM" anymore. There's a great conversation about this over in the A7 section, but this is the key point.

[maxwide]

Sticky

Really useful thanks, will experiment when the new car arrives.
Tell me something though; why is this an issue with Audi/Mercedes and not with BMW? BMW have a separate SIM already in the car and you can connect an iPhone with no problem wit full functionality. My research tells me this is to do with the rsap protocol used by the MMI system but not supported by Apple (and others). Will this ever be sorted out? Seems odd to buy a car from a global manufacturer and the most popular phone in the world and still have to spend time scouring forums and taking SIM cards in and out of phones, autoforwarding calls etc etc.
What's the future for this issue? Is anyone there working on it?

[Timothy Nathan]

The latest thing I was told by Audi UK was that there will be a fix in future models but that anyone who has already given them money can stuff themselves. But that was some time ago, so presumably there is no sense of urgency.

As with the online destination issue, provided that it works in Germany and the US, they really don't care about the UK market.

[johnsimcox]

Sticky

Really useful thanks, will experiment when the new car arrives.
Tell me something though; why is this an issue with Audi/Mercedes and not with BMW? BMW have a separate SIM already in the car and you can connect an iPhone with no problem wit full functionality. My research tells me this is to do with the rsap protocol used by the MMI system but not supported by Apple (and others). Will this ever be sorted out? Seems odd to buy a car from a global manufacturer and the most popular phone in the world and still have to spend time scouring forums and taking SIM cards in and out of phones, autoforwarding calls etc etc.
What's the future for this issue? Is anyone there working on it?

There are a number of issues which together conspire to create problems for Audi owners. Firstly in Europe the UK is unusual in that none of the mobile operators offer the facility to have a two SIMs assigned to a single phone number. If this were possible then it would make sense of why Audi do not allow both a SIM card in the SIM slot and bluetooth connected phone because you would not want both connected and active simultaneously. In the US where Verizon does not even have SIM cards in its phones then Audi have designed the system to allow both a bluetooth connected phone and a SIM in the dash (Audi have a deal with T-Mobile which they offer all customers who take Audi Connect).

BMW have done a global deal with Vodafone for their built in SIM and the car comes with a three year contract for that. After that the customer presumably has to renew the contract with BMW/Vodafone at a price with no option to go elsewhere. Also in countries where Vodafone has no network the customer will be roaming and whilst this cost is absorbed within the initial 3 year country it could be quite pricey afterwards. The BMW deal is only Machine to Machine so the owner has to use their own phone for voice calls.

The other issue for Audi drivers is down to choice of phone. Apple has decided not to support rSAP on the iPhone (and is not alone in this) and as such it is at odds with Audi who have decided to adopt this protocol. In their defence I suspect Audi probably started developing this version on MMI more than 3 years ago when rSAP was common place and at the time Apple were a new player in the phone market. Audi (along with the rest of VW) has already announced that future version of their systems will be fully integrated with Apple products (as MB have started to offer with the new A-Class) so it seems that this problem will go away in the future but that is of little comfort to those with Audi Connect today. I would have thought that the EU software could be tweaked to follow the US system and permit an installed SIM and a connected phone and perhaps Audi are working on that although with it being primarily a UK issue and the relatively small number of customers taking Audi Connect they may see as not worthwhile.