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    Agree with Lex Luthor here - I've been checking out the 170 for some time and can't even find a used one in my local dealer to take for a test drive. The 170 ps is a development of the 140 ps - using the technology from the A6 etc which allows more accurate fuelling of the cylinders, hence greater efficiency/power. When I bought a 2.0 TFSi for my wife last October, we weren't even offered the 2.0 TDi 170 ps - they were that short on the ground.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by erisaman View Post
    Agree with Lex Luthor here - I've been checking out the 170 for some time and can't even find a used one in my local dealer to take for a test drive. The 170 ps is a development of the 140 ps - using the technology from the A6 etc which allows more accurate fuelling of the cylinders, hence greater efficiency/power. When I bought a 2.0 TFSi for my wife last October, we weren't even offered the 2.0 TDi 170 ps - they were that short on the ground.
    A big difference is the Diesel Particle Filter (DPF) as well as the bhp, fuel economy, insurance and oil prices.

    I had no problem ordering one from new, through the research I did the salesman didn't have much input either way, just sat there nodding.
    Current Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Hatch 2.0TDi 170 CR in Candy White
    Outgoing Car: 2007 56 Plate Audi A3 Sport Sportback 2.0TDi 170 PD in Black
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by prolfe View Post
    A big difference is the Diesel Particle Filter (DPF) as well as the bhp, fuel economy, insurance and oil prices.

    I had no problem ordering one from new, through the research I did the salesman didn't have much input either way, just sat there nodding.
    Your comments confirm my exact train of thought regarding the 170, however, having been a petrol-head all of my 45 years of driving, to even consider diesel is a major change of direction for me. The DPF is an important factor inasmuch as (I hope) the filter does away with that tell tale puff of black smoke emitted by the conventional TDI when nudged into action.

    When I did my research on power plants last September/October, the brochures contained no mention of a 170 nor it's performance potential, indeed, even as recently as May/June, I was still being given obsolete brochures containing no mention of the 170. Even worse - Audi's own web site, whilst featuring the 170, gives very misleading info on fuel consumption - despite being told that they are doing themselves an injustice!

    I'll have no problem ordering from new - and there are even discounts available - it's just that I've been spolit by the 2.0TFSi with DSG so I want to have a good test drive of the 170 to be sure I'm not going to lose too much zip - and this is where the shortage presents itself, there being no demo models available (locally).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by erisaman View Post
    Your comments confirm my exact train of thought regarding the 170, however, having been a petrol-head all of my 45 years of driving, to even consider diesel is a major change of direction for me. The DPF is an important factor inasmuch as (I hope) the filter does away with that tell tale puff of black smoke emitted by the conventional TDI when nudged into action.

    When I did my research on power plants last September/October, the brochures contained no mention of a 170 nor it's performance potential, indeed, even as recently as May/June, I was still being given obsolete brochures containing no mention of the 170. Even worse - Audi's own web site, whilst featuring the 170, gives very misleading info on fuel consumption - despite being told that they are doing themselves an injustice!

    I'll have no problem ordering from new - and there are even discounts available - it's just that I've been spolit by the 2.0TFSi with DSG so I want to have a good test drive of the 170 to be sure I'm not going to lose too much zip - and this is where the shortage presents itself, there being no demo models available (locally).
    There's no smoke from my 170 DPF and as it's debadged, you'd not know which of these it could be: 2.0 TFSI, 1.8 TFSI, TDI, or 3.2

    There might be a member near you that has a 170 that they might be able to take you out in. Where about's in the country are you?
    Current Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Hatch 2.0TDi 170 CR in Candy White
    Outgoing Car: 2007 56 Plate Audi A3 Sport Sportback 2.0TDi 170 PD in Black
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by prolfe View Post
    There's no smoke from my 170 DPF and as it's debadged, you'd not know which of these it could be: 2.0 TFSI, 1.8 TFSI, TDI, or 3.2

    There might be a member near you that has a 170 that they might be able to take you out in. Where about's in the country are you?
    That's a good idea of yours - I'm in the Swansea (S Wales) area. Maybe they'd be willing to lend it to me for a week or so - oops, low flying piggy nearly hit me then.
     
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    Just one word of warning, don't buy a 170 (or any car with a DPF) if you never go out of town.

    The handbook says the car must be driven at or above 40mph (approx) for 15mins to clean the DPF. I know AUDI dealers in london bought back DPF cars because thier owners never get out of a 30mph limit.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by erisaman View Post
    That's a good idea of yours - I'm in the Swansea (S Wales) area. Maybe they'd be willing to lend it to me for a week or so - oops, low flying piggy nearly hit me then.
    Brigend Audi are just about to get a Audi A3 Sportback 2.0 TDI Dpf (170 PS) quattro S-line

    you could have a go in that, it's 4wd so will feel really quick off the line, but the mid range acceleration will feel the same as a 2wd.

    Call them on Tel: 0845 123 6018

    The only extras it has are iPod, 18" RS4 style alloys and chrome roof rails
    Current Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Hatch 2.0TDi 170 CR in Candy White
    Outgoing Car: 2007 56 Plate Audi A3 Sport Sportback 2.0TDi 170 PD in Black
     
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    Thanks for that - just got back from Spain so am slow picking it up - thanks again.
     
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