Real world MPG 2.0TDI

[Passatier3]

For what it's worth, we know that the 3.0 lt is more economical than the 2.0lt and that (surprisingly perhaps) the manual is better than the multi. having these facts then allows people to make their own decision based on preferences etc. Foe me, I couldn't stretch to the 3.0 ltr and liked the MUlti.

This is exactly the nub of the problem and what we were trying to understand via this thread.

The facts, if you got them from this forum, would allow you to make an informed decision based on your preferences but if you just made a decision based on the quoted (very close) figures, but of course making an allowance for it being nigh on impossible to match them in real life, then you could be disappointed if chosing a Multitronic over a manual.

But for me and my circumstances/car use/driving style etc., as for Olio, all things considered, I'm very happy with the car and happy enough with the fuel consumption.

[Olio]

I take your point, that in your exact situation it's "no big deal". I can't make myself any clearer regarding my point so I'll just leave it.

Wuffles,

Sorry if my post was not really adding to the debate (which definitely exists). I was simply thinking out loud (our writing out loud), convincing myself that I did not order the lemon of the A6 family.

I would love to drive the car and find out I get to near the claimed MPG. It seems that won't happen, and I prefer to see this as a consequence of the Multitronic from the start, and one tht won't break my finances, rather than an expectation of lower running costs which would then bring disappointment.

[skibuddy]

So, based on the real world experiences of forum members how do we rank the following in terms of fuel economy:

a. 2Ltr Manual
b. 2Ltr Multitronic
c. 3Ltr Manual
d. 3Ltr Multironic
d. 3Ltr Tiptronic
e. 3Ltr S Tronic
f. BiTurbo

Anyone care to suggest or is a direct like for like comparison not possible because there are too many variables (e.g. speed, driving style, tyre size, weather etc)?

[Wuffles]

So, based on the real world experiences of forum members how do we rank the following in terms of fuel economy:

a. 2Ltr Manual
b. 2Ltr Multitronic
c. 3Ltr Manual
d. 3Ltr Multironic
d. 3Ltr Tiptronic
e. 3Ltr S Tronic
f. BiTurbo

Anyone care to suggest or is a direct like for like comparison not possible because there are too many variables (e.g. speed, driving style, tyre size, weather etc)?

You'd have to do it based on achieved in real world situations. You're a double D by the way.

[boof]

Anyone care to suggest or is a direct like for like comparison not possible because there are too many variables (e.g. speed, driving style, tyre size, weather etc)?

That bit. Unless we have a significant enough number of people who have driven multiple types of car and transmission in identical circumstances.

I would suggest all we could do would be to come up with a standard way to measure (full tank, paper calculation, brim to brim etc) and have people put up their numbers and look for an overall trend and let people decide for themselves.

I suspect for all cars and transmission types we'll have outliers at both ends of the spectrum. e.g manual users getting awful mpg, multitronic getting very good.

Similar thing to fuelly etc. Though there doesn't seem to be much useful A6 data in there at present and / or a lot of it can be skewed by american responses.

[Olio]

I find spritmonitor.de more appropriate to Euro / UK cars, as it has a better reflection of smaller engines and diesels.

From checking it this morning, the C7 2..0 TDI Multitronic returns about 7 l/100 (about 40 MPG) for the best ones there

See http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overvi...=3&powerunit=2

[Olio]

And by changing only the gearbox to manual, we can see that the best manual stats are around 6 l/100 (about 47 MPG)

So about 47 MPG for the best manuals, and about 40 for the best multi, also seen by checking the "automatic" category, where multi start at around 40/43. (there is a lower one but fuelling data is incorrect, unless one can average 100 MPG over 5k miles)

While I still do not know the reason, it seems there is sufficient evidence of a significant difference in MPG between the manual and multi boxes on this engine.

[Wuffles]

The problem with these things as they are able to be infiltrated by marketing idiots in striped shirts and braces. For all you know I'm a marketing bot from BMW constantly sticking it to the Audi crowd to skew the figures lower.

As Bill Hicks once said..."By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing… kill yourself."

[Whippy53]

There was quite a good article on this issue in this months Car mag, including mention of a court case that Audi recently lost where a customer took them to court (allegedly) because he couldn't get near the advertised figures.I still find it difficult to believe the Multi can be so bad but I guess the evidence don't lie. All I can do is report back once I get my sticky pudgy mitts on mine.

[Whippy53]

The problem with these things as they are able to be infiltrated by marketing idiots in striped shirts and braces. For all you know I'm a marketing bot from BMW constantly sticking it to the Audi crowd to skew the figures lower.

As Bill Hicks once said..."By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing… kill yourself."

yes but with the C7 they were working with a Blue Sky scenario, some had to be the first to leave their vapour trail on it!