cd boot changer

[rjohnson]

hi i have just purchase a 52 reg audi 2.4 sport convertible it has concert single cd in dash and iam hoping to put a changer in boot ,i have looked behind tool kit and removed the vent o n/s trim section but cannot see any pre wired connection any ideas if there is one fitted any where regards rick

[Dozz]

I'll think your find you going to have to buy the lead. Had a similar thing with a passat so didn't bother in the end

[nickynibbles]

The wiring wont be there & you need the lead. Simplest option is to go for the glove box changer instead which fits into the top r/h slot, you dont need to change the glovebox to do this, just cut some holes in the back of it to allow it to fit ok & run the lead. You can buy the Skoda version of the changer instead of the Audi part for about £100 & a few quid more for the lead, only difference is the fron is blank instead of saying Audi.

[SquashMan]

which type of lead will I need if I was going to fit a changer to my 2002 A4 saloon? I'm seeing different types on ebay (square and round connectors)

TIA

[Froggy]

If you have a lead pre-run in your boot it should have a round connector on it. (but check first to make sure)

If you haven't got the lead there already buy either (the VW or Audi lead) and the matching changer. Either will work.

[SquashMan]

Thanks Froggy

I've looked into my boot and tried to take the liner out on the left hand side.....'tried' is the key word!

I presume that if there is a lead already fitted in it'll be under this liner, but I can't get it out.....it seams to be clipped in three places, but I've no idea. Any ideas?

I've posted a pic of the liner I'm talking about.

[rjohnson]

thanks for reply most seem to think there is no lead, i have removed radio and there is a lead square one right in middle of the radio which disappears into wiring loom the only other connection which is empty is for telephone prep connection not sure if multi takes power from this lead or the square yellow one which goes into the loom any ideas welcome if its the middle square yellow connection then the end of the lead must be somewhere

[Jose]

Why don't you get an RNS-E instead??? You would be able to play CD's, MP3, navigation system for all Europe, bluetooth for your mobile and even DVD as long as you install the DVD player.

Think about it.. I did install a cable/lead so that I can play my mp3 but
I'm saving for an rns-e.

It won't regret and the look of it, is just awesome!!


Cheers, Jose.

[SquashMan]

...hhhhmm, whats RNS-E?

[Jose]

...hhhhmm, whats RNS-E?

RNS-E is the VAG original navigation system!!

There's a link for it:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-RNS-E-DVD...QQcmdZViewItem

Removed from another forum (navplus.us)

"RNS-E retrofit for Dummies I got quite a lot messages over the last couple of weeks asking questions which had already been answered or telling me that the Quick Links topic is way too technical. I hope this topic is easier to read and gives you the answers you are looking for. Feel free to post new questions here (or as new topic in one of the forums) if you are still not seeing the answer for the question you have in mind.

Again, this topic will only cover true plug and play solutions and it won't provide answers about creating custom harnesses, patching a DVD, loading new software, modifying faceplates or converting from single DIN to double DIN.

Can I plug and play retrofit the RNS-E in my car?

Yes, if you currently have a Symphony II head unit (with build-in 6 CD changer) which is usually the case in an A3/8P or A4/8E with Premium Sound package (North America only, Europe does not get any radio unless explicit ordered). Maybe, if you have an A6/C5 or Allroad (facelift models only) because this will require getting the speed signal from behind the instrument cluster. If you don't feel comfortable removing the instrument cluster or have someone do it for you it's a No, otherwise Yes. Maybe also if you have an A4 B6 with the older Navigation Plus RNS-D (CD based). In this case the upgrade requires to bridge some wires on the TMC unit which is somehwere well hidden in your car. No, if you have the Concert II head unit or any of the older OEM head units (including Symphony I, any of the single DIN head units or no head unit at all).

Which RNS-E part number do I need?

Check the parts numbers topic in the Quick Links, it lists all known RNS-E parts numbers and gets regularly updated:

Note that European units will not work in North America without modifications. The same is true with North American units in Europe, they will not work without modifications. Modifications require patching large files, creating new dual layer DVDs or loading new software on your RNS-E unit which requires certain skills and may render the unit unusable. While possible, I won't list those modifications here under plug and play retrofits but if you think you can do it, browse the Quick Links topic or use search to figure out how.

What else do I need?

You will need an RNS-E adapter which converts the current connector plugged in to your Symphony II head unit to fit in the RNS-E connector. When you order the adapter, specify that you need support for a CD changer and mobile phone hands free kit. This way you get all the wires you need. You will also need to specify whether or not your car has the Bose sound system, an all active sound system or passive front/active rear sound system. In most cases it is sufficient to specify Bose or not. Please clearly state which car and head unit you need the adapter for.

You will also need an antenna adapter from the old style 50 Ohm ISO plug to a Fakra connector. The adapter you order should have a receptacle for the diversity antenna connector already present in your car. Don't worry to much about all the terms here, if you get the adapter from a well known source they will send you the correct stuff if you just specify ISO to dual Fakra adapter.

The easiest way to get a GPS signal is to install a new GPS antenna behind the instrument cluster or above the glove box. GPS antennas are usually available from the same source as the RNS-E adapter, just make sure you get one with a Fakra connector (SMB would be the other type but this doesn't fit the RNS-E well).

Last but not least you will need a set of 4 of the radio removal keys and access to a VAG-COM or similar to do the coding once the RNS-E is installed.

Where do I get the required adapters?

This should not be a list of preferred vendors, browse the forum to determine who is good and who is not so good. It just gives you a point to start when looking for the RNS-E and other adapters. Replace the [at] with the @ sign in all email addresses. Send me a PM if you know another reliable source in North America, Europe or anywhere else.

Germany:
Ralf Deventer: deventer.rum[at]onlinehome.de (English OK)
Kufatec: info[at]kufatec.de
Navi-center: info[at]navi-center.de (English OK)

USA:
Euro-Parts: info[at]euro-parts.us

The actual install

The install is as easy as removing the Symphony II, plugging in the adapters, getting the GPS antenna behind the instrument cluster, plugging in the RNS-E and getting everything back in that little hole in your dash board. Of course there is a little more which makes it more or less challenging but these are the main steps. Once your car is put back together it's time to make some final configuration changes with VAG-COM or similar equipment. If you don't have access to a VAG-COM, your dealer may be willing to help you to finish this task.

What happens to my SAT radio (XM/Sirius - North America only)?

Well, if you are one of those who happens to have an OEM satelite receiver for XM or Sirius and are really using it, you will need to upgrade that receiver as well. The RNS-E does not talk to the first generation SAT receivers. The actual install is plug and play but to get to the SAT receiver is little tricky, therefore I'm not going into details here. Your Audi dealer will know which part number you need and will most likely do the install for you.


I may add links to successful installs here at a later date. Until then, simply check the Quick Links for pictures and more.

Good luck..."

You only need the rns-e, GPS antenna, the fakra cable and the double din... usually the rns-e comes with the code, fakra and the antenna. Then you just need to spend 40 quid on the double din.

Hope this helps!!


Cheers, Jose.