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  1. A2 rough idle + no throttle after rebuild 
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    Hello all,
    Would love to hear if anybody experience with the following and can offer any suggestions (I am new to this vehicle and VAG COM)?

    Engine = 1.4 Petrol - Code AUA

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    Chassis Type: 8Z - Audi A2
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 37 45 46 56 57 75 76 77
    VIN Number: WAUZZZ8Z02N036715
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    HISTORY:
    - Crank sprocket slipped on the cambelt due to ice formation filling in the tooth profiles => 8 x intake valves bent => no other damage => so, new valves fitted and lightly lapped = > head rebuilt with new gaskets.
    - Engine started on the first turn of the key and sounded good for the first 30s or so on the rich startup map => I gently blipped the throttle and the revs rose to 2500rpm => on return to the idle position the engine was now running roughly, with a lumpy hunting idle.
    - Fault code scan revealed the following:
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    Address 01: Engine
    Part No: 036 906 034 Q
    Component: MARELLI 4LV 3415
    Coding: 00051
    Shop #: WSC 00579
    WAUZZZ8Z02N036715 AUZ7Z0B2061291
    1 Fault Found
    17961 - BAROMETRIC/ MANIFOLD PRESSURE SIGNALS – IMPLAUSIBLE CORRELATION
    P1553 – 350C
    Readiness: 1110 0101
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    - So I checked the following:
    o Air leaks – Nothing visible (difficult to say for sure) Can anyone recommend a suitable test procedure?
    o Cycling through test functions – each part appeared to respond
    o Cam timing re-checked, case I’d messed up => all correct
    o Compression test = 12bar across all cylinders (test carried out at around 30°C water temp, ECU fuel P fuse removed, foot on the accelerator. I’m not sure how the electronic throttle responds in this condition… anyone?

    - No further forward, I decided to check the live data blocks:
    o IGNITION ON (revs=0rpm) (MAP=999mb) (Throttle=7.5°) (Ignition=0°)
    o ENGINE IDLING (revs=1275rpm) (MAP=675mb) (Throttle=7.4°) (Ignition=0°)
    o ENGINE RUNNING + THROTTLE BLIP (revs=1275rpm) (MAP=690mb) (Throttle=7.4°) (Ignition=+/-4°)
    - Points to note from live test
    o Throttle angle pretty much constant throughout all three tests
    o The MAP values seem too high (as expected with the fault code), manual states values should be between 240 and 420mb
    o When blipping the throttle, the revs rise only very slightly and the ignition angle is the only parameter that appears to change in response.

    - My next thought was to try and clean the TB and perform a re-align.

    Thanks in advance

    Jonny
     
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  2. Re: A2 rough idle + no throttle after rebuild 
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    Could be the throttle body. It is a 2002 with an AUA engine for anyone who wants to know.
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  3. Re: A2 rough idle + no throttle after rebuild 
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    Check intake manifold pressure sender
    Check intake system for leaks (unmetered air)
    Check exhaust gas recirculation system:
    Check throttle valve control part
    Check activated charcoal filter solenoid valve
    Try and generate the readiness code,this might show up what is wrong
     
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  4. Re: A2 rough idle + no throttle after rebuild 
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    Hi Crasher, yes it is.

    -> the throttle body appears to cycle fine when prompted.

    Hi kenny,

    Tried all of the your points, the only one I'm not confident about is the un-metered air.

    Update: i have just sprayed some brake cleaner at the intake manifold with the engine runing - the revs fluctuated!

    I'm about to take the inlet manifold off, hoping to find a kinked or missing seal - wish me luck.
     
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    I had one earlier today with the same fault code and problem on a 1.6 BCB engine (very similar) and the reason was a leak on the servo feed pipe. Even though the TB looks OK, I would still clean and reset it.
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  6. Re: A2 rough idle + no throttle after rebuild ***Now Fixed*** 
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    Update 2 - Problem Solved - Kinked rubber seal on intake manifold port 4, I must have caught it lowering the head onto the block (see attached image).

    Engine now runs sweet as a nut.

    Massive sigh of relief.



    Thanks for your help guys.
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