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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMatador View Post
    Fantastic - at last! That's exactly what we've been waiting for
    Just to cross link threads here another one on the links... Link:- Audi V6 TDi 2.7 & 3.0 Inlet Manifold, Swirl Flap Repair Kit.
     
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    BTW, I've changed both mine myself (I'm not actually a mechanic). Took about 5-6 hours.
    Bought them from ebay.de - the new revision from 2010. Payed about 350€ for both.

    Changed them and engine light gone, and about 15% better mileage. Other than this I cant tell a difference.
    2008 A6 Allroad 2,7TDI Q TIP - MMI high, SDS, TV, Parking +, BOSE Surround, Advance Key, AFS +
    2011 A1 1.2 TFSI Sport - Navi, BT, AMI
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kristofferS View Post
    BTW, I've changed both mine myself (I'm not actually a mechanic). Took about 5-6 hours.
    Bought them from ebay.de - the new revision from 2010. Payed about 350€ for both.

    Changed them and engine light gone, and about 15% better mileage. Other than this I cant tell a difference.
    I've just purchased two of these for mine.

    5-6 hours... ??? Why did it take so long ?

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    hehe. As I said, I'm not a mechanic
    And also, that was the total time, including making the kids not fight, eat a bit and also google a bit
    And, not to forget - to try to locate the one screw I lost in the engine... (of course - of of the last one to fasten the last swirl flaps... That probably took half an hour +)

    But in my engine it was pretty tight there - so it was not easy to get them out.
    I decided to get them out without taking out the fuellines.
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    I think I miss read your post. Didn't realise you changed the whole lot .. Thought you just changed the linkage.... Now it makes more sense.
     
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    Hello fellow members. If you have problems with swirl flaps on 2.7TDI and 3.0TDI please visit www.airshox.eu or just contact me. We have remanufactured the whole shaft + bearings using excessively strong and durable materials.
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    Sometimes The Smallest Things Can Make The Biggest Difference - Professionally Refurbished by AirShox EU
     
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    Hi all,
    Just to add to SRT88's post above, I recently had the warning light come on my A6 2.7TDI that was diagnosed by my local garage as a problem with Bank 2 manifold. They reset the warning and it was fine for a couple of days before the warning came on again. As it's my wife's car I wanted to get the issue sorted but as it was going to cost upwards of £450 just for the parts from Audi I looked around for alternatives. I found the Airshox solution via another thread here and despite some trepidation at ordering from Bulgaria I went ahead and ordered a complete manifold. Communication with Stanislav was outstanding, answering all my questions before ordering and after. The manifold casing and servo motor are refurbished items, with the swirl flaps themselves and bushes being newly manufactured, also included was a new OEM connecting rod kit and the necessary gasket. All arrived in around 4 days via recorded delivery, exactly as described. I then packed my old manifold and returned to Bulgaria. I posted direct, but there is a UK return address that i could have used (my bad as I forgot to check!!) and would have saved me a few quid...total cost was around £160 (not including my return postage) so considerably cheaper than the, albeit new, Audi option! The manifold is also guaranteed for the ownership of the vehicle. I'm delighted with the service from Airshox and when the other manifold goes, I'll be straight back again. Happy to give more details by PM if required.

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    Hello,

    I had to have the inlet manifolds changed on my A6 30.tdi Allroad, just before these remanufactured units became readily available and it cost me 2200 Euros at Audi Poitiers, and that did not include the motors. When my wife's A4 3.0 tdi cabriolet had the same fault this year, I bought a pair of remanufactured inlets including the motors from autosmotorcraft in Germany, but through ebay uk. They arrived very quickly and to be honest they looked as though they could have been brand new, the old units were collected very quickly free of charge and the deposit was repaid without delay, excellent service and communication throughout. I had the manifolds fitted by a local VW garage and the total cost to me was just under 800 euros, a significant saving. I would thoroughly recommend this supplier.

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    I have been driving for 2yrs and 24k miles with both sides reporting swirl flap issues, namely:

    012597 - Intake Manifold Runner Control
    P3135 - 001 - Lower Stop not Reached
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100001
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 170273 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2014.11.02
    Time: 12:34:00


    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 0 /min
    Torque: 0.0 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Voltage: 12.16 V
    Duty Cycle: 88.8 %
    Duty Cycle: 88.8 %
    Duty Cycle: 20.5 %


    004120 - Intake Manifold Runner (Bank 2)
    P1018 - 001 - Lower limit not reached
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100001
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 255
    Mileage: 170273 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2014.11.02
    Time: 12:34:00


    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 0 /min
    Torque: 0.0 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Voltage: 12.16 V
    Duty Cycle: 88.8 %
    Duty Cycle: 88.8 %
    Duty Cycle: 20.5 %

    I have seen absolutely no degradation in fuel economy, in fact I've seen a 1015 fuel range on my DIS in June, and have actually driven 920 miles on a single tank (50+MPG)

    Not a priority for me and the marker pen covering the EML (along with weekly VCDS scans to ensure there's nowt else wrong).

    Since this thread started the repair kit from Audi for the arms came out in Dec 2012 and also several ebay sellers (and forum sponsor) are doing both sides inc. actuators for a very reasonable exchange price (sub £300).

    When I eventually get around to doing mine next year I am defo going to be blanking off my EGR so that the crud doesn't clog things up again.

    From my perspective I don't actually know what purpose the flaps serve as my cars plenty economical and certainly doesn't lack power
    XK8 96 Dyno'd at 305 and LPG converted, a mere 65ppl
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    I'd guess they are purely for emission regulations. They certainly do not improve the car performance. I'd love to find someone who can re-program the ECU parameters. If the error limit was 10% the problem would be unlikely to occur in the car lifetime.

    cheers

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