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hi all i am looking for a bit of advice regarding alloy wheel bolts . my son as a golf mk6 1.4s at the moment it as 15" steel wheels he as just bought some 17" genuine alloys for it . my question is are the wheel bolts the same for alloy and steel wheels or will he need different ones for the alloy wheels
Don't know but would think they are the same, only thing is you will need the special one with the shaped key to stop them being nicked. You may be able to buy these as sets of four I would imagine.
You use the same bolts, they are the same but he'll need to buy a set of 4 'locking' bolts (actually there are just a special bolt with a round head and a shape cut into them which engages with a special adaptor for use in the wheel wrench.
More importantly, won't the rolling radius be significantly different?
Not if he uses the correct (45 ) low profile tyres
Welcome to a bumpy ride then. Our appalling road surfaces now detract from using low profile tyres, IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhigour
Assuming he is going for 225/45/17, the sidewall isn't really that short. It's quite tall in fact. Hardly a rubber band. I have no bump ride issues.
Also (and more importantly), I was under the impression that bolts for steel wheels were different from alloy wheel bolts. Something about the shoulder being tapered for alloy wheels. That could be - and probably is - complete nonsense. I can't remember where I read it, so can't link to it.
Not sure about the Golf 6 bolts, but on a 97 passat I once had that I upgraded to alloys the bolts would fit Ok but were plain steel and not a nice shiny alloy type, so I ended up changing the bolts too.
Give me a nice steel wheel any day with a nice easy to wipe over embellisher disc. Far less trouble and no worries about kerbing and nice fat tyres as well. I'd like my current car's extras but without the standard alloys.
Bolts are different. I have a steelie rim as a spare in my Megane and it's provided with different nuts.
I think the ones for alloys are stronger. Also remember to get a locking bolt or you'll be back on your steelies!
All Golf 6 models use the same wheel bolt, part number WHT 001 812, an M14x1.5x27 Kugelbundschraube.Quote:
Originally Posted by A6_Chris
225/45 17’s are fine, a perfect combination of looks and ride quality.
^^^ just shows what I know eh? ;)
Without ETKA you can't compare part numbers?
Without ETKA I can't function!Quote:
Originally Posted by Keithuk
Just to add a few additional comments from my experiences..
1. Bolts are fine as discussed/proven earlier
2. There is a MASSIVE difference in the weight of a 17" alloy (especially the Seattle wheels i have, which VW seem to have crafted from lead) and my 15" steel wheel/winter tyre set up.
3. The ride quality on 17s is OK (i have sports suspension too) but with the 15s fitted there is a noticeable difference and the car is more comfortable (less tiring) to drive
4. The 17s, whether through the extra tyre width, hysterisis or wheel weight give me 5-6mpg worse fuel consumption driven in the same manner (and thats in economical driving mode)
5. vThe car feels more lively to the throttle on the lighter 15" wheels - i'm sure this is more a feel thing than a huge difference in actual acceleration, but nonetheless the car feels lighter on its feet on the smaller wheels.
I've now covered 31k miles, 9k of which were on the winter tyre set.
Another recommendation - try to avoid directional tyres, as you will get uneven wear on the rear (inner edges wear as a common problem on bigger tyred Mk5/6 Golf, Jetta and Passats). With non directional tyres you ca at least swap left to right to reduce some of the shamfering to the tread blocks.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...anier/rofl.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Crasher
True but its getting more difficult to update unless your registered?
True but there are ways if your life depends on it.
I'm with you 100% on that, currently looking at fitting a set of Mk5 "steels" to mine. I presume that these are the same ?Quote:
Originally Posted by HHGTTG
****.
I couldn't agree more, and corrosion on the inside?Quote:
Originally Posted by HHGTTG
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If the new 17" wheels are genuine, by which I take it you mean that they have a VW part number stamped on the inside rim. If this is a VW accessory you could check out www.volkswagen.co.uk. Next click on 'owners then 'accessories. After selecting Golf mark VI click on 'alloys'. Read the sub-heading 'Important information' If it says 'Use existing standard wheel bolts' this should put your mind at rest.
Alternatively, you could phone your local dealer's parts dept and ask them to check the part number for the bolts for your son's new wheels and also ask them to confirm the part number for the bolts for the standard wheels. If they are the same, problem solved. You may think that my approach is very cautious but I believe that you can't be too careful when dealing with alternative wheels. Beddoe