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Fully Syn is what you need! VAG don't have there own gear oil! I contacted FUCH in stoke to see if they were the OEM supplier (Fuch engine oil is filled at factory)Quote:
Originally Posted by the surfer
I also contacted Opie oils and had a chat to the "oil Man" and was advised to stick with VAG part number as the Redline oil I was going to buy doesn't work well with VAG (selecting 1st gear when cold is difficult)
The bottle that I got from Audi looks similar to the Castrol bottle! But I'd stick to the VAG part number as I had a lot of conflicting advice on here! But up to you in the end.
Thanks again for your help.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyTim
I have found this info which is very useful to me, and I'm sure a lot of you on here too.
Here is a list of VAG approved lubes and fluids, correct to June '08:
VW 009 300 - VW power steering fluid spec.
VW 500.00 - VW spec for multigrade engine oils for petrol engines with SAE 5W-X/10W-X viscosity.
VW 500.00 + 505.00 - Oil meets both VW 500.00 and 505.00 spec.
VW 501.01 - VW spec for petrol engines.
VW 501.14 - Brake fluid with low viscosity, VW 2006>.
VW 502.00 - VW spec, oil for petrol engines. Successor of VW 501.01 & 500.00 spec.
VW 503.00 - Long-life petrol engine oil for VW cars with WIV. Meets ACEA A1, SAE 0W-30 or 5W-30.
VW 503.01 - Special engine oil for some VW petrol engines. SAE 5W-30.
VW 504.00 - Long-life petrol engines with WIV.
VW 505.00 - Passanger car diesel engine oil, minimum performance level CCMC PD-2. Lists viscosities:- SAE 5W-50, 10W-50/60, 15W-40/50, 20W-40/50 requiring 13% max evaporation loss and SAE 5W-30/40, 10W-30/40 requiring 15% max evaporation loss.
VW 505.01 - Special engine oil for VW turbodiesel with pump-injector-unit and for the V8 commonrail turbodiesel engines. Meets ACEA B4 SAE 5W-40 spec.
VW 506.00 - Special long-life engine oil for turbodiesel engines with WIV, viscosity is SAE 0W-30.
VW 506.01 - Special long-life oil for turbodiesel engines with pump-injector-unit with WIV.
VW 507.00 - Long-life diesel engine oil with WIV.
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VW B 000 700 A - Special VW approved brake fluid.
VW G 002 000 - Special VW hydraulic fluid for power steering.
VW G 004 000 - Special VW hydraulic fluid for power steering.
VW G 009 317 - VW gear oil for manual & automated 6 speed transmissions.
VW G 052 145 - Special synthetic gear oil, SAE 75W-90.
VW G 052 162 - VW spec for Esso LT 71141. Special ATF with additional friction modifier for some ZF automatic gearboxes (ZF 4HP20, 5HP19, 5HP24, etc).
VW G 052 171 - Gearbox oil SAE 70W-75.
VW G 052 175 - Special fluid for Haldex clutch. Developed by Haldex and Statoil.
VW G 052 178 - Gearbox oil SAE 75W.
VW G 052 180 - Special VW fluid for multitronic CVT.
VW G 052 190 - Special VW fluid for multitronic CVT transmissions and differential, built in one.
VW G 052 300 A2 - Compressor oil.
VW G 052 726 - Gear oil SAE 75W.
VW G 052 798 - Gearbox oil SAE 70W-75.
VW G 052 911 - Audi spec, for gearboxes of FWD cars with longitudinal engines. Meets API GL-5, SAE 75W-90.
VW G 052 990 - Special ATF, for VW automatic transmission and differential built in one.
VW G 055 005 - Special ATF, for VW automatic transmissions and transaxles.
VW G 055 145 - No info available.
VW G 055 162 - Special ATF, for VW automatic transmissions and transaxles.
VW G 055 175 - Special fluid for Haldex-clutch. Developed by Haldex and Statoil.
VW G 11 TL 774-C - VAG spec engine coolants.
VW G 12 TL 774-D - VW standard antifreeze for use with VW group vehicles. Red in colour - must NOT be mixed with other antifreezes and particular coolant additives which comply with standard TL VW 774B or C (G11) - Blue-Green in colour (which may have been used in earlier VW group vehicles). This standard should NOT be used to top up TL VW 774F (G12 Plus).
VW G 12 TL 774-F - VW standard for antifreeze for use in VW group vehicles, Purple-Lilac colour - can be mixed with TL VW 774D - Red in colour (which may have been used in earlier VE group vehicles).
VW G 50 - Special synthetic gear oil, GL-4+ SAE 75W-90.
VW G 51 - Special synthetic gear oil, SAE 75W-90.
**WIV** - Extended drain periods, 30,000Kms (18,641 Miles) or 2 Years.
I think the gear oil for a 6-speed manual seems to be part No. - VW G 009 317 or is it VW G 052 911 ??
In addition to this, I've found more info on the 6-speed manual (code HDV) as well as a few other things:
http://www.bitnet.ro/vw/servicedata/...ec=BKD&lang=en
According to this the correct spec gear oil is - G 052 178. This refers to "gearbox oil SAE 75w".
This just adds more confusion! :aargh4:
Also, something else which I've never been able to find out is if the gear oil needs to be GL4 or GL5. I've been told not to use GL5 in a GL4 spec'd box. However, some gear oils are both GL4 AND GL5! Does anyone know about this?
All of this is driving me mental! If my local VW dealer wasn't so **** they would have replaced this for me like I asked them!! Aghh!
I've narrowed the search down to 2 oils:
Fuchs Titan Sintofluid FE 75w (GL-4). Meets the following specs: G 052 178 A2, G 052 512 A2, G 055 726 A2.
Fuchs Titan Sintofluid 75w80 (GL-5). Meets the following specs: G 052 911 A1/A2, G 052 171 A1/A2.
So which is it....?
*Bump*
Anyone...? Info please, someone must know!
:1zhelp:
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Originally Posted by the surfer
I'd go for this one - Fuchs Titan Sintofluid FE 75w (GL-4). Meets the following specs: G 052 178 A2, G 052 512 A2, G 055 726 A2. If it says in your handbook G 052 178 A2(which is either 0.5 ltr or 1Ltr bottles) GL4 spec then I'd go for that!
Give VAG UK a ring and ask for the tech guys, they should be able to give you the correct answer and put your mind at ease. There is a guy on here called "A8 tech" He's a master tech for VAG and very helpful! If he doesn't know the answer no one will...
It doesn't actually say this in my manual, it was on a website giving tech info, so I guess it could be wrong.... not 100% sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyTim
The thing that gets me is the fact that if a gearbox isn't compatible with a GL-5 fluid, then how can a gear oil be both GL-4 and GL-5 compliant, as a lot of gear oils now are? Surely it's either GL-4 or GL-5? My logic tells me that if the chemicals in a GL-5 oil can damage some metals in a transmission spec'd for GL-4 oil only, then how can a gear oil be rated with both specs? Or have I got this completely wrong...?
Thanks for all your help with this Tim. I've rang 4 local dealerships who've all given me different specs..... just to add to the confusion an' all! I wasn't aware there was a VAG UK technical department; I thought there was just sales and marketing etc. If there is though, they will be my next stop and hopefully clear this mess up, so to speak.
WHY DOES THE HANDBOOK IN THE GLOVEBOX OF THE VEHICLE NOT STATE THE DAMN SPEC FOR GEAR OIL!?!?! :confused: