Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
Hi,
Got an issue with my Golf Mk5 1.6 FSI.
FULL AUTO SCAN:
Code:
Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ4W096975 Mileage: 316260km-196514miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03C-906-056-BAG.lbl
Part No SW: 03C 906 056 BA HW: Hardware No
Component: MED9.5.10 G00 5697
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0D9331576
Coding: 0000072
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 63C1C201A2D6B057DA-8036
1 Fault Found:
17580 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Signal too Low
P1172 - 002 -
Readiness: 0100 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0019073
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3A7F5F6575DC919FA9-806E
1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 CB
Component: Climatic PQ35 080 0201
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 66C7DB1551E4C57F3D-8032
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 K HW: 1K0 937 049 K*
Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0701
Revision: 00030000 Serial number: 00000000514812
Coding: E48D0F0600041800001400001400000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3779465146CE8CF756-8062
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0401
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 00000
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 K Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RegenLichtSens 002 0505
Coding: 00217125
Shop #: WSC 00000
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 A HW: 1K0 909 605 A
Component: 0M AIRBAG VW8 022 0500
Revision: 04022000 Serial number: 0033FD08P0VC
Coding: 0012365
Shop #: WSC 01268 785 00200
VCID: 2A5F6F25857C211FD9-807E
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME5D7E1002
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME57340A02
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME43485801
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME5D0F5901
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 A HW: 1K0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 012 0030
Coding: 0000022
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 306B7D4DA3A05BCF17-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 950 K
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 3554
Coding: 0000401
Shop #: WSC 00218 210 03908
VCID: 306B7D4DA3A05BCF17-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 C HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H08 0080
Revision: 08 Serial number: 2100104128EF35
Coding: 3D0F0340070003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 27599611966E1C77C6-8072
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 950 K
Component: IMMO 3554
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 306B7D4DA3A05BCF17-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0116
Coding: 0000052
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 306B7D4DA3A05BCF17-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V1.clb
Part No: 1K2 909 144 E
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.1 1202
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2E576335B9944D3F05-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 BL
Component: 01 KSG 0301
Coding: 81E802087F2D8505485BC61000
Shop #: WSC 00218 210 08203
VCID: 7BF19A613A666897F2-802E
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor 003 0003
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0101
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 E
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0116
Coding: 0000052
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 316D7849A8AA52C718-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 186 J
Component: Radio BNO 0016
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 2D556439B49236273C-8078
No fault code found.
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VCDS is showing fault with throttle body:
17580 / P1172 - Angle sensor 2 for throttle actuator G188 signal too low.
or (on other scans show)
17579 / P1171 - Angle sensor 2 for throttle actuator G188 implausible signal.
also fault showing with ABS brakes:
01314 - Engine Control Module - 013 - check DTC memory
Car will drive for a bit when DTCs are cleared and throttle body adapted but then will go into limp home
mode (can't go above 3000rpm).
Have tried a second hand throttle body but still getting the same issue (but less often / sporadically)
(reading MVB 062 in VCDS shows steady values / signals for G187 and G188).
However the original throttle body I had on there was definitely on the fritz (or could be bad wiring,
connectors or ECU damp?) as when reading measuring block values / MVB 062 you could see sensor
2 G188 fluctuating wildly and not holding a steady value when at idle position
Don't want to fork out for an OEM throttle body at £500!
But also don't want to buy a cheap knock off.
Any advice on this issue would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Re: Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
Did you make sure the used throttle body was the correct part number, perfectly clean inside and then adapt it to the ECU in Basic Settings 060?
Re: Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
Hi Crasher I tried a new throttle body (not an oem part / aftermarket - metzger) and still had the same issues / showing same codes. What would you recommend doing next?
Re: Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
Can you rind me the part number of the Metzger throttle body? Did you do Basic Settings 060?
Re: Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
Yes I reset the throttle body using basic settings group 060 on vcds..... followed the instructions as per the ross tech video
Part number for Metzger Throttle Body is ARTICLE №: 0892429
Re: Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
The OE number is 03C 133 062 A and this cross references on Tec Doc as a Metzger 0892429 so that is correct, leaves me a bit stuck...
Re: Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
Going to try and take a look at the wiring a connectors between the throttle body and Ecu.
There is a TSB 2018652 which splices in 6 new wires to the throttle body (just the last 12 inches).
Fingers crossed with new connector, new terminal pins and wiring it will resolve the issue.
If if not I’m stumped too or it’s an ECU issue?
Re: Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
I would be replacing the pins at both ends with Gold plated ones as I stock them and have the crimps but you may have to use VAG repair wires which I don’t like.
Re: Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
Thanks for the advice Crasher.
How would I obtain these pins and crimps from you?
What are the VAG repair wires? Is there a part number?
Re: Help with Codes 17580/P1172, 17579/P1171
I think it is an AMP mini timer without being able to check at work, I get them from Buy Flat plug contact Junior Power Timer (JPT) 2.8 online
And these to crimp them on
Buy Crimping tool for uninsulated flat connectors (0714104121) online
The VAG repair wires are available from VW dealers or TPS if you have an account
These aren’t the correct numbers but give you the idea
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