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mc_wardy
06-03-2010, 06:36 PM
I've been playing with the SD cards on the RNS-E.

I have 288 songs on the card and one m3u file that contains all the songs. On the PC the m3u shows all the songs. On the RNS-E the playlist only shows the first 99!! I tried again with another set of songs and the same.

Is this normal?

Appologies if this has been covered I try to search.

Thanks.

sooty
06-03-2010, 08:31 PM
There is a way to show all the song but I dont know how as I dont have the MMI unit.

Hopefully Ben will be around soon as he knows

mc_wardy
08-03-2010, 03:46 PM
Is there away to have more than 99 in a playlist?
Or do I have to figure another way to organize my tune?

Cheers

mc_wardy
15-03-2010, 12:39 PM
Just to try and summarise this thread . . . . . .you may find bits or all of this useful, you may not . . . . .

What I wanted to be able to do was access Albums / Artists and do a Random play for all songs on an SD card.
I did have all my songs structured under Artists and Albums, then a M3U for all songs, as the M3Us seem limited to 99 songs this didn't really meet my needs . . . so here's the solution I can up with.

There's two bits to this
1. Getting the songs on SD card
2. Creating M3U playlists

1. Getting the songs on the SD Card.

I have all my songs organized in Itunes and didn't want to change this. It also gives me the use of the Smart playlists to limit size of playlists by number of songs or X mb.
I'm sure you can do similar things with other apps or even just copy the songs cards onto the SD card.

So I created playlists in Itunes specifically for the RNS-E. I use smart playlists and limit the size to 1.83mb so they fit on the 2Gb SD Card.
For example I have
"5 Stars - Random" - Random selection of the songs I've rated 5 Stars.
"Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Bowie etc". - Obvious
" New Albums" - Albums I've added recently.

I then use "Itunes Agent" to sync those playlist with specific SD cards in a flat structure. This creates new versions of the MP3 in the root of the SD Card, in the format "Artist - Title. mp3".
Put the card into the RNS-E and you can find all your tunes in root of SD Card and find songs by Artist via the MP3 name or you hit mix!!

2. Creating M3U playlists.

After much digging around I found a couple of APPs call AutoM3U. I only managed to get one to work "AutoM3U V0.5 Beta by J Penneck"
This will then create M3Us for All Artists, All albums and All Songs (don't need this now).


So now I can access all songs on a SD card via the file structure and play Random if I want or I can access a particular artist via playlist.
I'm glad I persevered on this as it great to use the controls of the RNS-E and have the songs on the big screen.

This just what I found was good for me, Itunes agent will let you structure files in various different ways. So if you don't' want to play all your songs in random, you can use this to export Itunes playlist to an SD in a structure of \Artist\album\title. . . . .

stevesnaz
09-05-2010, 12:23 PM
I've got my songs on the SD card in folders:

Dance.
Pop.
Rock.
etc

I can see the folders and can select songs within the folders, but when I select some of the songs via it automatically jumps to another song...it apperas to be totally random as well?? :confused:

Really gutted as I thought I'd cracked it with the mp3 tunes and SD Card. I'm 99% there, it's just annoying that it jumps to other songs.

Anyone else come across this??

El Guapo
09-05-2010, 09:23 PM
Hi there! Is the card formatted as FAT or FAT32? I had some problems with a card and once re formatted as FAT32 it was fine. Might be worth a try.

Codestud
11-05-2010, 11:15 AM
Hi All,

I'm a software developer, and I've been writing a utility that reads the playlists out of your iTunes library and can then put them on an SD Card so that the RNS-E can read them.

I've also come across the 99 song playlist limit as well, and I don't see a way around that.

However, my utility can take a playlist which has, say, 150 songs in it - and then create two playlists - one with 99 in and another with 51 in. If that makes sense.

I am still testing but hope to make it available reasonably soon. Will let the forum know.

stevesnaz
11-05-2010, 08:46 PM
Hi there! Is the card formatted as FAT or FAT32? I had some problems with a card and once re formatted as FAT32 it was fine. Might be worth a try.

Thanks...I'll whip it out and check it. It was a 2GB card a took from my digi SLR to test, so it may only be FAT.

I'll let you know if it works.

stevesnaz
11-05-2010, 08:48 PM
Hi All,

I'm a software developer, and I've been writing a utility that reads the playlists out of your iTunes library and can then put them on an SD Card so that the RNS-E can read them.

I've also come across the 99 song playlist limit as well, and I don't see a way around that.

However, my utility can take a playlist which has, say, 150 songs in it - and then create two playlists - one with 99 in and another with 51 in. If that makes sense.

I am still testing but hope to make it available reasonably soon. Will let the forum know.

Sounds good...keep us updated. :D

El Guapo
12-05-2010, 11:49 PM
I have over 150 songs in one folder and over 300 in total on the card.

stevesnaz
15-05-2010, 11:24 AM
Hi there! Is the card formatted as FAT or FAT32? I had some problems with a card and once re formatted as FAT32 it was fine. Might be worth a try.

It was FAT, so I re-formatted FAT 32 and downloaded the MP3s. Unfortunately it still jumps to other songs when I try to select certain songs. So far I have noticed that it is MP3s labelled with the following letters first:

A, E, F????... :mad:

I'm going to move the songs into one big folder and see if it still does it.

Codestud
15-05-2010, 12:43 PM
Unfortunately it still jumps to other songs when I try to select certain songs.

The reason for this is probably the ID3 tag which is encoded in to your MP3 files. On investigation, I found that the RNS-E was incompatible with MP3 files that had an ID3 VERSION 2 tag, i.e. you'd selected it and it would skip over the song. This is contrary to the RNS-E manual - this manual says that ID3 V2 is OK - it isn't.

ID3 Version 1 is fine. My utility strips all ID3 tags from your MP3 files. I will hope to release it fairly soon.

In the meantime, try getting a utility from the Internet that will strip all ID3 tags from the MP3 files on your SD Card, and try again.

stevesnaz
15-05-2010, 05:52 PM
Sussed it. When I converted my iTunes to MP3s a number of the songs didn't properly convert because they were originally coded as M4Ps. The songs that hadn't converted were the ones that would jump.

I have re-converted them to MP3 and all are working now.
:biglaugh: