DRLs, is this setup possible?

[g-black]

I'm looking to get my lights up as DRLs. I'm trying to find out what is actually possible. I'll either be using my uncles vagcom or buying it myself.

I want to have my tail lights and number plate lights on all the time.
I'd like to have my HID headlights on all the time as well.
So far I don't think that's to bad! But here comes the complicated bit...
I'd like to make my side light bulbs my indicators, and have the current indicators made into DRLs. I would change the sidelights bulbs to orange bulbs, and change the indicator bulbs to White bulbs.

Is this possible through vagcom, or would I need to do a bit of rewiring?

[hartry]

This is from memory so I might be wrong but as far as I can remember, you can set the indicators to come on with drls but not the sidelights to act as indicators, also i remember reading that some guy melted his indicator bulb holders after setting them as drls without dimming them down, there is a percentage setting for dimming whichever bulb you choose as the drl in vagcom as well, so you would need to do that. BUT I think you are going to have to rewire them anyway. This leads to the question 'is there a dimmer function for the sidelights in vagcom', because if there isn't and you rewire the indicators as sidelights, you're gonna melt the bulb holders. Unfortunately I think the answer to that question is no too :(

Somewhere on the net there's a full map of all the vagcom settings on the b6 which should provide definitive answers to your questions but I can't seem to find it now... the links on the rosstech wiki site are dead...

[hartry]

hang on...


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001,0,Parking Lights
001,1,Left Front,Parking Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
001,2,Right Front,Parking Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
001,3,Left Rear,Parking Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
001,4,Right Rear,Parking Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
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002,0,Fog Lights/Low Beams
002,1,Left Low Beam,Headlight,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
002,2,Right Low Beam,Headlight,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
002,3,Left Fog Light,,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
002,4,Right Fog Light,,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
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003,0,Turn Signals
003,1,Left Front,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
003,2,Right Front,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
003,3,Left Rear,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
003,4,Right Rear,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
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004,1,Left Side,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
004,2,Right Side,Turn Signal,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
004,3,Left/Right,High Beam,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
004,4,Xenon-Shutter,,Range: ON/OFF
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005,0,Brake Lights
005,1,Left,Brake Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
005,2,Right,Brake Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
005,3,Center,Brake Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
005,4,License Plate,Illumination,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
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006,0,Back-Up Lights
006,1,Instrument,Illumination,Terminal 58d (Range: 0.0...100.0 %)
006,2,Left,Back-Up Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
006,3,Right,Back-Up Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
006,4,Left Rear,Fog Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
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007,1,Activation Relay,Terminal 50,Range: ON/OFF
007,2,Activation Relay,Terminal 15,cockpit/engine (Range: ON/OFF)
007,3,Activation Relay,Terminal 75,Range: ON/OFF
007,4,Enabling SAD,,Range: active/inactive
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008,1,Brightness,,Range: 0...7
008,2,Rain Quantity,,Range: 0...7
008,3,Right Rear,Fog Light,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
008,4,Footwell,Lighting,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
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009,1,Terminal 30g,Relay,Range: ON/OFF
009,2,Dual Washer,Pump +,Range: ON/OFF
009,3,Dual Washer,Pump -,Range: ON/OFF
009,4,Heated Rear,Windshield,Range: ON/OFF
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010,1,Horn,,Range: Operated/Not Oper.
010,2,Enabling of,Seat Heating,Range: Active/Inactive
010,3,Electric Fuel,Pump (FP) Relay,Range: ON/OFF
010,4,Headlight Washer,System Relay,Range: ON/OFF
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011,1,LED Heated Rear,Windshield,Range: ON/OFF
011,2,LED Emergency,Flasher Button,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
011,3,LED Heated,Outside Mirror,Range: ON/OFF
011,4,Interior,Light Dimmed,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
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012,1,Coming Home,LED,Range: ON/OFF
012,2,Heated Outside,Mirror,Range: ON/OFF
012,3,Rate Action 1,Relay Driver 1,Range: ON/OFF
012,4,Rate Action 2,Relay Driver 2,Range: ON/OFF
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013,0,Terminals
013,1,Terminal 30,(left),Range: 0.00...17.75 V\nSpecification: 5.0...17.75 V
013,2,Terminal 30,(right),Range: 0.00...17.75 V\nSpecification: 5.0...17.75 V
013,3,Terminal 30,(ref.),Range: 0.00...17.75 V\nSpecification: 5.0...17.75 V
013,4,Terminal 31,(ref.),Range: 0.00...12.75 V\nSpecification: 0.0...1.00 V
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014,1,Dimming,Potentiometer,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
014,2,Coming Home,Potentiometer,Range: 0.0...100.0 %
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015,0,Terminals
015,1,Terminal 15,(Input),Range: ON/OFF
015,2,Terminal 50,(Input),Range: ON/OFF
015,3,Enabling P/N,,Range: ON/OFF
015,4,Terminal L,(Input),Range: ON/OFF
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016,1,Light dark,,Range: dark = on/bright = off
016,2,Lights on (RLS),,Range: ON/OFF
016,3,Front Wiper,Status,Range: ON/OFF
016,4,Wiper turn-around,Position Signal,Range: Reached/Not Active
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017,1,Light Switch,(Light off),Range: ON/OFF
017,2,Parking Light,Switch,Range: ON/OFF
017,3,Low Beam,Headlight Switch,Range: ON/OFF
017,4,AFL Light Switch,,Range: ON/OFF
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018,1,Fog Light Switch,,Range: ON/OFF
018,2,Light Switch,Rear Fog Light,Range: ON/OFF
018,3,Brake Light Switch,,Range: ON/OFF
018,4,Back-Up,Light Switch,Range: ON/OFF
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019,1,Emergency,Flasher Button,Range: Operated/Not Oper.
019,2,Engine Hood,,Range: Open/Closed
019,3,Heated Rear,Windshield Button,Range: Operated/Not Oper.
019,4,Heated Outside,Mirror,Range: Operated/Not Oper.
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020,0,Backrest Recognition
020,3,Backrest,Left,Range: ON/OFF
020,4,Backrest,Right,Range: ON/OFF
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021,0,Rotary Traps
021,1,Rotary Trap LF,,Range: ON/OFF
021,2,Rotary Trap RF,,Range: ON/OFF
021,3,Rotary Trap LR,,Range: ON/OFF
021,4,Rotary Trap RR,,Range: ON/OFF
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022,1,Rear Lid,Main Catch,Range: ON/OFF
022,2,Heated Front,Windshield,Range: operated/n. oprated
022,3,Heated Front,Windshield Relay,Range: ON/OFF
022,4,Heated Front,Windshield LED,Range: ON/OFF
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023,1,Rotary Light Switch,Position
023,2,Coming Home,Condition
023,3,Leaving Home,Condition
023,4,AFL Condition
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024,1,Steering Column,Switch Information,via LIN-Databus
024,2,Terminal 15,(via LIN),Range: ON/OFF
024,3,Terminal 50,(via LIN),Range: ON/OFF
024,4,Wiper Cycle,Number (via LIN)
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030,1,Load Management,,Range: Active/Inactive
030,2,Short-Distance,Operations
030,3,Critical,Time Fraction
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A000,0,Reset Adaptation Channels
A000,5,Reset Adaptation Channels
A000,6,Reset all adaptation channels back
A000,7,to the original factory values.
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A001,0,Coming-Home Time
A001,5,Coming-Home Time
A001,6,Time which the Coming-Home function will be active.
A001,7,Range: 10...60 Seconds
A001,8,Resolution: 10 Seconds
A001,9,Note: Only active if Byte 00 Bit 7 of Long Coding active.
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A002,0,Leaving-Home Time
A002,5,Leaving-Home Time
A002,6,Time which the Leaving-Home function will be active.
A002,7,Range: 10...60 Seconds
A002,8,Resolution: 10 Seconds
A002,9,Note: Only active if Byte 00 Bit 5 of Long Coding active.
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A003,0,Rear Window & Outside Mirror Heater Activation Time
A003,5,Rear Window & Outside Mirror Heater Activation Time
A003,6,Time which the Rear Window and Outside Mirror Heater will be active.
A003,7,Range: 1...254 Minutes
A003,8,Resolution: 1 Minute
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A004,0,Headlight Washer Activation Time
A004,5,Headlight Washer Activation Time
A004,6,Range: 50...10000 ms
A004,7,Resolution: 50 ms (Adaptation Value * Resolution = Actual Value)
A004,8,Note: Only active if Byte 01 Bit 1 of Long Coding active.
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A005,0,Footwell Lighting Dimming
A005,5,Footwell Lighting Dimming
A005,6,Range: 20...100 %
A005,7,Resolution: 1 %
A005,8,Note: Only active if Byte 00 Bit 1 of Long Coding active.
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A006,0,Load Management
A006,5,Load Management
A006,6,Range: 0...3
A006,7,Note: Only active if Byte 02 Bit 3 of Long Coding active.
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A007,0,Highbeam with Assistance Driving Light
A007,5,Highbeam with Assistance Driving Light
A007,6,0 = inactive
A007,7,1 = active
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A008,0,Assistance Driving Light Activation/Deactivation Delay
A008,5,Assistance Driving Light Activation/Deactivation Delay
A008,6,Range: 0...10200 ms
A008,7,Resolution: 40 ms
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T906,Horn (H1)
T59,Interior Lighting
T61,Footwell Lights
T1504,License-Plate Light (X)
T1755,Parking Lights (E1)
T901,Back-Up Lamps
T1758,Brake Lamps
T967,Left Turn Signals
T968,Right Turn Signals
T975,Heated Rear Window (Z1)
T60,Fog Lights
T977,Low Beams (Left & Right)
T2486,High Beam
T1064,Interior Dimming (Terminal 58d)
T1259,Fuel Pump Relay (J17)
T1701,Dimmer for Interior Lighting
T2092,Enabling Heated Seat
T909,Windshield Wiper Motor (V)
T2377,Wiper: Upper Reverse Point
T156,Front Windshield Washer Pump
T2398,Rear Windshield Washer Pump
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LC,00,0,Front Fog Lights installed
LC,00,1,Xenon Headlights with Shutter installed
LC,00,2,Footwell Lights installed
LC,00,3,Daytime Running Lights (Scandinavia) active
LC,00,4,Daytime Running Lights (North America)
LC,00,5,Assistance Driving Light & Leaving Home active
LC,00,6,Rain-/Light sensor installed
LC,00,7,Coming-Home active
LC,01,0,Rear Seat Recognition installed
LC,01,1,Headlight Washer installed
LC,01,2,Electronic Fuelpump Relay installed (Gasoline only)
LC,01,3,Rear Wiper installed
LC,01,7,Rear Wiper with Front Wiper continiously active
LC,02,0,Rear Wiper with Front Wiper intermittent active
LC,02,1,Comfort Turn Signals
LC,02,2,Cold Lamp Diagnosis active
LC,02,3,Load Management active
LC,02,4,Coming-Home Mode via (0 = Personalisation / 1 = Lightsensor)
LC,02,6,Side Turn Signal Lights installed
LC,02,7,Seat Heating installed
LC,03,0,Relay Terminal 15 installed
LC,03,1,Rear Fog Lights (0 = 2 Rear Fog Lights / 1 = 1 Rear Fog Light)
LC,03,2,Reverse Driving Lights (0 = 2 Reverse Driving Lights / 1 = 1 Reverse Driving Light)
LC,03,3,Reverse Driving Light off when Rear Lid open
LC,03,4,Xenon Headlights without Shutter installed (Bi-Xenon)
LC,03,5,Teardrop Wiping for Rear Window active
LC,03,6,2nd Battery installed
LC,04,0,Auxiliary Heater installed
LC,04,4,Activation of both Rear Fog Lights
LC,04,6,Rear Fog Lights deactivated
LC,04,7,Warp Relay installed
LC,05,0-7,50,Headlight Washer Delay
LC,05,0-7,50,Decimal Value (Resolution 50 ms) (Example: 20 is 20 x 50 = 1000 ms)
LC,06,0-7,50,Headlight Washer Activation Time
LC,06,0-7,50,Decimal Value (Resolution 50 ms) (Example: 16 is 16 x 50 = 800 ms)
LC,07,0-7,1,Turn Signal Front left/right as Parking Light Front left/right (USA and Canada)
LC,07,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,08,0,Seat Heating Deactivation with Transport Mode active
LC,08,1,Daytime Running Light (DRL) Deactivation with Transport Mode active
LC,08,2,Footwell Lighting Deactivation with Transport Mode active
LC,08,3,Interlock Display via CAN-Instruments active
LC,08,4,Interior Light via Rear Lid Notch active
LC,08,6,Rear Fog Light Deactivation with Trailer active
LC,08,7,Daytime Running Light (DRL) Deactivation while Blinking active
LC,09,0-7,1,Rear Brake Light as Parking Light
LC,09,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,10,0-7,1,Rear Fog Light as Parking Light
LC,10,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,11,0-7,1,Front Parking Light Dimming
LC,11,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,12,0-7,1,Rear Parking Light Dimming
LC,12,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,13,0-7,1,Backup Function: Rear Side Turn Signal as Parking/Brake Light
LC,13,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,14,0-7,1,Backup Function: Front Parking Light as Side Turn Signals
LC,14,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,15,0-7,1,Backup Function: Rear Parking Light as Side Turn Signals
LC,15,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,16,0-7,1,Backup Function: Front Fog Lights as Low Beam Headlight
LC,16,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,17,0,Emergency Brake Flash Light active
LC,17,1,Deactivation of Additional High Beam with Bi-Xenon
LC,17,2,Heated Front Window installed
LC,17,3,Diagnosis Terminal 50 active
LC,17,4,Daytime Running Light via Fog Lights
LC,17,5,Front Fog Lights deactivated with High Beam
LC,17,6,Parking Light Function inactive (USA/Canada)
LC,18,0,Cold Diagnosis License Plate Lights active
LC,18,1,Cold Diagnosis Brake Lights active
LC,18,2,Cold Diagnosis Front Fog Lights active
LC,18,3,Cold Diagnosis Rear Fog Lights active
LC,18,4,Cold Diagnosis High Beam active
LC,18,5,Cold Diagnosis Turn Signals active
LC,18,6,Cold Diagnosis Back-Up Light active
LC,18,7,Cold Diagnosis Side Turn Signals active
LC,19,0,Cold Diagnosis Low Beam active
LC,19,1,Cold Diagnosis Front Parking Lights active
LC,19,2,Cold Diagnosis Rear Parking Lights active
LC,19,3,Diagnosis Rear Parking Lights active
LC,19,6,Electric Parking Brake installed
LC,20,0-7,1,Daytime Running Lights Dimming
LC,20,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)
LC,21,4,Rear Fog Light as Brake Light
LC,21,6,Leaving-Home Variant (0 = LH in LDS / 1 = No LH in LDS)
LC,21,7,Low Beam always active
LC,22,0,Personalization (0 = Variant 1 / 1 = Variant 2)
LC,22,2,Brake Light Deactivation with Rear Fog Light active
LC,22,3,Rear/Brake Light Function active
LC,22,4,Speed dependant Trunk Locking active
LC,22,5,"Light && Sight" Menu inactive
LC,22,6,Rear Parking Lights as Blinker active (North America)
LC,22,7,Diagnosis Rear Brake Lights inactive (North America)
LC,23,0,Xenon Headlights repeated Ignition active
LC,23,1,CAN Data Exchange Format active
LC,23,2,Internal Turn Light Control Algorithm active
LC,23,3~4,00,Turn Lights not active
LC,23,3~4,08,Turn Lights via Fog Lights
LC,23,3~4,10,Turn Lights via High Beam
LC,23,3~4,18,Turn Lights via Xenon Shutter
LC,23,5,Coming-Home Logic (0 = Old / 1 = New)
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after a quick look through, what i said a minute ago might be wrong....

LC,14,0-7,1,Backup Function: Front Parking Light as Side Turn Signals
LC,14,0-7,1,Decimal Value (Resolution: 1%)

...looks promising ;)

good luck

[Europa25]

:confused: :D

So, next time i take the passat to VW, can i just ask to have their system recode to have just the front sides on ?!?!

Just find that the odd lorry on the M25 every day takes a bit more notice when the sides are (not bothered about the back).

Cheerz :beerchug:

[hartry]

"So, next time i take the passat to VW, can i just ask to have their system recode to have just the front sides on ?!?! "

Not likely! But if you can find a friendly forum member with vagcom they will be able to (I think) - have a look in the vagcom section, there are lots of people happy to help

[g-black]

If the indicators are set as DRLs, will they still flash when the indicator is turned on? I'm just looking to do something different with the lights. Somethin that looks OEM without fitting bright LED strips!

[hartry]

if you just set the indicators as the drls then i think the answer is yes, they light up dimmer than usual all the time then flash at normal brightness when indicating. but if you also set 'front parking light as side turn signal' then i don't think they would do that any more - i think that if you set all of long coding byte 0 bit 4, byte 7 and byte 14, then set the dimming in byte 20 to a reasonable value, you might get exactly what you're after

[hartry]

i failed to mention, and this is important - if you set us drls make sure that when you test your settings you take the handbrake off! because us drls only come on when the handbrake is released! even though i was already aware of that to start with when i set them on my car i was still stumped as to why they weren't working for a good few minutes.

agree with your opinion on the leds by the way. i was just thinking what i think would look best and i reckon having the sides and indicators lit up all the time without the dipped bulbs, then the indicators blinking brighter than usual when indicating would look good.

[rapport25]

If you hang fire, Im in the stage of developing DRL's myself and they will be L.E.D's. :D

There will be a strip of L.E.D.'s in the front indicator housing for D.R.L's and a strip of L.E.D indicators in the housing. Watch this space!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D. Bascically it will look like original equipment. And very good :beerchug:

[hartry]

If you hang fire, Im in the stage of developing DRL's myself and they will be L.E.D's. :D

There will be a strip of L.E.D.'s in the front indicator housing for D.R.L's and a strip of L.E.D indicators in the housing. Watch this space!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D. Bascically it will look like original equipment. And very good :beerchug:
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused:


Somethin that looks OEM without fitting bright LED strips!

[rapport25]

:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

I think G -black was referring to stick on strips. Mine will be fitted inside the indicator housing and look original.

[g-black]

So long as I doesn't look a cheap add on. The idicator housing isn't clear and looks a bit frosted so if it's hidden behind them it could be ok?! The only thing with what your talkin about doing is the brightness of them compaired to the indicator. On the audis, the DRL dims to 50% when the indicator comes on so it can be clearly seen during the day...

[podwin]

Below are images of what I did for this:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/podwin/Cars/Passat/15-09-09_1940.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/podwin/Cars/Passat/15-09-09_1939.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/podwin/Cars/Passat/DSC_0002.jpg
I wasn't happy with it though and will try again sometime with LEDs as well.

It's easy to do with a Dremel.

[discobarry]

Sorry, but can't you just leave your side lights on?

[RichardSEL]

i failed to mention, and this is important - if you set us drls make sure that when you test your settings you take the handbrake off! because us drls only come on when the handbrake is released! even though i was already aware of that to start with when i set them on my car i was still stumped as to why they weren't working for a good few minutes.

agree with your opinion on the leds by the way. i was just thinking what i think would look best and i reckon having the sides and indicators lit up all the time without the dipped bulbs, then the indicators blinking brighter than usual when indicating would look good.

Did you manage to do this? Agree that this would be a sleek option, without having to fiddle about with LEDs, 470 Ohm
ballasts, etc. And then being disappointed with result. If so, what VCDS coding did you end up with?

Cheers
Richard

[Frelon]

I am looking for some DRLs which fit into the existing indicators, and which double up as indicators too!

I found some on eBay that did just this (Multiple Flash DRL 2x 9 LED White & Yellow Waterproof Car Daytime Running light) which are superb, but the curvature of the lights are not as much as are needed in the Passat (probably OK on an Audi).

Still looking for the ideal solution!

[Frelon]

This (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321030503176?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649) is the kit all of us Passat B6 owners have been waiting for......

It appears to be the ideal solution in that they replace the existing indicator lights with dual LEDs, one set for DRLs and one set for indicators, so no hole drilling etc..

It would also appear that the DRLs can be connected directly to the electronic handbrake switch somehow, so that they only come on when the electronic handbrake is off, so they only light up when the car is moving, or stationery without the handbrake being applied. From what I can read this was the original intention for DRLs to only be lit when the car was moving, or near to moving, hence Daylight Running Lights!!

My personal take on these are that they are too expensive for the European market, not many people will pay £143 for the kit and then an additional £25 for postage from China!!

Having bought them they then have to be fitted - not rocket science but an extra hassle! I have contacted the supplier and asked whether these DRLs switch off when head lights are turned on in accordance with the law, but no reply yet!!

Has anybody on the Forum bought them yet, and do they do what it says on the tin??

Sounds as though they might be an ideal product for a Forum bulk buy!! Any takers?

[Quatrelle]

A link would be useful. If they're behind the same lens as the indicators, would they be so bright that they would prevent the indicators from being effective?

A lot of the latest DRLs, in strips, on some modern cars (Audi, Citroen etc) are way too bright, to the extent that they almost dazzle. Too much bling.

[Frelon]

The link was under This, but here it is again.....
LED Daytime running lights Lamp DRL for VW PASSAT B6 Turn Signal 08-10 1:1 | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-Daytime-running-lights-Lamp-DRL-VW-PASSAT-B6-Turn-Signal-08-10-1-1-/321030503176?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4684878405780159595%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D321030503176% 26)

The DRLs actually alternate with the indicators when the indicators are on like some Audis and Jaguars, so when indicators are on the DRLs are off.

Don't think this is too much bling, just the way to go.

[Quatrelle]

My apologies. Didn't notice the change in colour :Blush2:

The reference to bling was some of the foot-long strips. OTT imo.

They look the business, but I do wonder if they'd be legal in the UK (and France) in the same lens?

Not being picky, but £25 postage is way too much, so for about £145....?

Best wishes

[RichardSEL]

Doesn't say whether thay're CANbus friendly?
Postage is whey too much
Why B6 MY2008 - 2010? Did the aperature or wing curve change then? Mebe they're thinking Magotan?
xPosted to seller's site

[Frelon]

Have been offered a 30% discount on product (but no discount on shipping). Still think this is too expensive and told them so!

Still looking for right product - at right price!


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[RichardSEL]

Have been offered a 30% discount on product (but no discount on shipping). Still think this is too expensive and told them so!

Was this per pair of units to you or for a group buy?

Have had no reply from 4allcarproductsplaza re my previous queries, but particularly whether they're CANbus friendly. Wouldn't want to go chasing dashboard lights like I've occasionally already got with LED sidelights that are advertised by Autobulbs Direct as "CANbus friendly" That should read "usually CANbus friendly":fing02:

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Yes, this was for a group buy (50 pairs). Somehow think that is out of the question for most B6 owners, especially as we do not know as to whether they will give a bulb out warning for the indicators!!

I would want my lights fully fitted and functioning for this price!!