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trapster
20-01-2010, 01:09 AM
hi

i have just bought my first audi

its a A4 S LINE SPECIAL EDITION 2.0TFSI 220BHP

its on a 2007 plate cracking car

but just wondered why there is no s line badge on the steering wheel ?

its not like it could have fallen off as there is no indent at the bottem of the steering wheel ?

its the Version 2 model of the car with the black optic pack (so no chrome)

its got the S line badge on the grille and on the sides of the car.

does anyone know why it does not have it ?
and can i just buy a S Line badge (the same that sticks onto the sides of the car and put that on the leather steering wheel at the bottom ?

really want to see the S Line logo in the car ;-) sad i know but i am having a mid life crisis :-)

kodkod.84
20-01-2010, 09:02 AM
V2 has the alcantara steering wheel doesn't it? It must just be V1 that has the S-Line badge on the steering wheel then, the alcantara wheel being carried over from the DTM Edition.

Oh do you have the metal RS4 pedal covers in your car?

randall977
20-01-2010, 09:33 AM
Mine doesn't either - bit disappointing!

kodkod.84
20-01-2010, 09:40 AM
Forgot to add I don't think standard A4 S-Lines have the steering wheel badge either for some reason.

Cars I have been in and seen the badge on the steering wheel is:

B7 A4 S-Line SE v1 (my car)
A6 S-Line
A3 S-Line

All have had the 3 spoke leather MFSW with red and white stitching

trapster
20-01-2010, 10:00 AM
hi

yes mine has the rs4 metal pedals

ok well it makes more sense now was thinking i did not have a true s-line special edition lol

hopefully i got a good deal on the car

2007 plate
5k on the clock (yes 5k) :-)
audi sat nav plus
6 cd changer
ambient light pack
full size spare wheel :-)
and some other lighting pack door lights and under seats ect

in pearl lava gray (was looking for black) but does look black in certain lights :-)

not one mark or sratch or stone chip

guy wanted £16995 got it for £16k

its a great car :-)

got a couple of buttons on the steering wheel think one says function or mode ? and one the other side that do nothing when you press them ?
cant find what they are in the manual ? any ideas ?

also the engine seems louder than i thought it would be and when standing still if you rev the engine you can feel the car rock to one side slightly (is this just the power of the engine) ?

kodkod.84
20-01-2010, 10:45 AM
Sounds a good car! I love Lava Grey as a colour especially with the black optic pack.

The buttons control the car phone kit if installed, if you press the mode button on the left if it displays 'insert phone' on the DIS computer you will have a phone prep installed.

It may also control SATNAV as well but as I don't have that in my car I can't tell you for sure.

Welcome to the B7 club!

El Guapo
20-01-2010, 02:24 PM
You can use the buttons for some functions on the satnav but mainly the phone for SIM search or voice dialling etc.

Lateknight
20-01-2010, 10:12 PM
Special editions have (fairly) unique chassis numbers as they are assembled by quattro gmbh, not on a 'run of the mill' production line.
Chassis number will start with WUA....... (not WAU... ,as standard s-lines have)

Also the final 6 digits will be from ...800000 onwards.
Thats how to tell a real SE S-line A4. You don't need a badge..lol

skymaster
21-01-2010, 01:42 AM
Special editions have (fairly) unique chassis numbers as they are assembled by quattro gmbh, not on a 'run of the mill' production line.
Chassis number will start with WUA....... (not WAU... ,as standard s-lines have)

Also the final 6 digits will be from ...800000 onwards.
Thats how to tell a real SE S-line A4. You don't need a badge..lol

Thats very interesting... so they are not just a normal S line with a few extras thrown in to increase sales towards the end of the platforms shelf life?

Are they all quattro? Or do some come with 2WD?

trapster
21-01-2010, 06:52 PM
mine is a 2wd s-line special edition ,but i have seen quattro versions aswell

kodkod.84
21-01-2010, 06:56 PM
quattro gmbh is an Audi subsidary company responsible for designing and manufacuring the S and RS models.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quattro_GmbH

They design and manufacture the s-line body parts but I was not aware they made the s-lines in their factory.

Issac Hunt
21-01-2010, 07:08 PM
but I was not aware they made the s-lines in their factory.

They don't.

msh
21-01-2010, 08:31 PM
I have the same car as above with the quattro , but mine does not have the RS4 pedal covers . Is this normal , or do other cars in this group have rubber pedals???

trapster
21-01-2010, 08:52 PM
metal pedals on my 2007 s line special edition

kodkod.84
21-01-2010, 09:20 PM
v1 of the special edition doesn't have the metal covers as standard but I retrofitted them.

Lateknight
21-01-2010, 09:53 PM
quattro gmbh is an Audi subsidary company responsible for designing and manufacuring the S and RS models.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quattro_GmbH

They design and manufacture the s-line body parts but I was not aware they made the s-lines in their factory.

Look at the silver coloured chassis data sticker under the bonnet for further proof - quattro gmbh

(Its on the drivers side of the engine bay, on the inner wing.)

Go on have a look now! you know you want to.. :biglaugh:

msh
21-01-2010, 10:05 PM
v1 of the special edition doesn't have the metal covers as standard but I retrofitted them.


When did the V2 start production?

kodkod.84
21-01-2010, 11:14 PM
v1: 2006 - 06/56

v2: 2007-2008 -07/57/08

I think these dates are right.

Road Rocket
22-01-2010, 12:38 AM
Seems to me all this S-Line stuff is nonsense. There's no real power difference between SE and S-Line and much is just cosmetic. You could always go for the real McCoy and buy a RS4 badge on ebay and stick it on the steering wheel - (only joking). Seriously, there are loads of S-Line badges and decals on ebay if you want one.

Road Rocket
22-01-2010, 12:40 AM
when did the v2 start production?

1944 - 1945

skymaster
22-01-2010, 12:46 AM
Seems to me all this S-Line stuff is nonsense. There's no real power difference between SE and S-Line and much is just cosmetic. You could always go for the real McCoy and buy a RS4 badge on ebay and stick it on the steering wheel - (only joking). Seriously, there are loads of S-Line badges and decals on ebay if you want one.

I guess the main difference is the suspension, but when you add the whole package together you do get quite a different car...

The wheels, suspension, sporty hugging seats, and the steering wheel all mean that it feels sportier to drive from the outset. I agree with your sentiments about the engine power though... having the same power in the SE as S line seems odd...

trapster
22-01-2010, 04:21 PM
but is the s line not 200bhp ? and the s line special edition 220 ?

so there is a difference in engine power or have i miss understood ?

Road Rocket
22-01-2010, 07:52 PM
but is the s line not 200bhp ? and the s line special edition 220 ?

so there is a difference in engine power or have i miss understood ?


I'm not sure about the difference between S-Line and S-Line Special but in general you'll find S-Line and SE have the same power unit, same BHP, same torque on each equivilent engine. Although there are differences in suspension and sports seats etc, there is no difference in power. Indeed a remapped SE of the same engine size as a standard S-Line would be more powerful (and obviously the contrary would also apply).

The red badge, like go-faster-stripes, doesn't mean it will go faster.

Marc1
22-01-2010, 10:56 PM
Do any of you have 'S Line' stamped on the sill plates? I alwys thought that the Steering wheel badge and Sill plates where part of the interior S Line package, but could be wrong. I've never seen a B7 with S Line logo'd steering wheel only A3's and A6's.

kodkod.84 - What year is your B7 and are the first owner? Wondering how it was specced.

Looks like we could do with a special edition brochure.

HowieT
22-01-2010, 11:14 PM
You want brochure...I find brochure...

http://www.audi.com/etc/medialib/cms4imp/audi2/uk/Products/a4/pdf.Par.0004.File.pdf

LMAO - pics is brochure show with and without badge...

HowieT

skymaster
23-01-2010, 03:56 AM
Well.. the brochure describes the S line Special edition as having lumbar support.... mine doesn't have this though...

kodkod.84
23-01-2010, 09:19 AM
Marc-
my car is 2006 '56 reg and I am the second owner. However looking around at 3 different S-Line SE when I was buying they all had the same basic spec as shown on page 12 of the brochure above including the S-Line sill plates.

The steering wheel these models have is on page 13 albeit with the multi-function dials.

Skymaster- I thought the lumbar support was on all the S-Line seats, leather or cloth and is the electric 4-way button.
S-Line SE seats are two-tone black and grey leather and have 'S-Line' stamped in them just beneath the headrest.

skymaster
23-01-2010, 02:59 PM
Hi

I will double check my seats later today... they are two tone leather... with an S line logo on them.... but I couldn't find the 4 way rocker button on them in the same place as it was on my last car... I will see if I can find it...

Trapster... I was talking about the power difference (or lack of difference) between the SEs and S lines... Within the S line range the special edition petrols have an extra 20 BHP but the TDIs remain at 170 on both...

I guess it's horses for courses but I generally wouldn't buy a powerful fast car with soft squidgy suspension and 16 inch rims.... So it's S line all the way...

skymaster
23-01-2010, 08:03 PM
I stand corrected... My car does have lumbar support (automatic)... didn't notice it before.... Oooops

Marc1
23-01-2010, 09:02 PM
Marc-
my car is 2006 '56 reg and I am the second owner. However looking around at 3 different S-Line SE when I was buying they all had the same basic spec as shown on page 12 of the brochure above including the S-Line sill plates.

The steering wheel these models have is on page 13 albeit with the multi-function dials.

Skymaster- I thought the lumbar support was on all the S-Line seats, leather or cloth and is the electric 4-way button.
S-Line SE seats are two-tone black and grey leather and have 'S-Line' stamped in them just beneath the headrest.

Maybe it's just the ones with Excecutive Pack then. Sounds like you got a rare one then. :beerchug:

sanstorm999
23-01-2010, 09:26 PM
Special editions have (fairly) unique chassis numbers as they are assembled by quattro gmbh, not on a 'run of the mill' production line.
Chassis number will start with WUA....... (not WAU... ,as standard s-lines have)

Also the final 6 digits will be from ...800000 onwards.
Thats how to tell a real SE S-line A4. You don't need a badge..lol

That is very interesting! I have just purchased an A4 2.0TDI S-Line Special Edition V1 on a 56 plate and it does have the S-line badge on the steering wheel.

I have got all the original paperwork given to the first owner by the Audi dealer when he collected the car and it all states Special Edition, but the chassis number does not start with WUA but with WAU, so is this not original Special Edition then?

cheers Sanstorm :confused:

royleblue
23-01-2010, 09:30 PM
I've seen the steering wheel badges on e-bay. I think they're smaller than the grill and side badges.

Marc1
24-01-2010, 11:56 PM
Been into Audi today to see if they can source me a new (to me) avant :biglaugh:. I asked the sales guy this question as he seeme to know a bit. He said there was a option to upgrade to the S Line steering wheel but this was £150 and as it didn't really offer much over the standard wheel not that many customers opted for it, which makes sense really.

Who's thinking about putting the door trim badge on the steering wheel? :smashfrea This badge is around 1.5 - 2 incles long and will not fit, but will look great in a picture as an Aviator. The actual sterring wheel badge is tiny, but don't buy one! There is an indentation in the steering wheel for the badge, sticking one on a steering wheel it's not meant for will look seriously cheap. It's just a badge forget about it! Or if you can't forget, go completely overboard and upgrade to a flat bottomed steering wheel from the S3, TTS, R8 etc. That badge comes on a plate and the plate is replaceable with all of the diffferent logos, S Line, etc - you can pick the plate with badge up from ebay.de for around £30. Very nice steering wheels by the way if you've got money to burn. :approve:

sidewinder306
13-02-2010, 10:00 AM
I have just checked mine and the chassis number starts WAU mine is a 170 TDI.
Is there a possibility that the TDI's being the standard engine are standard shells while the petrol is a special?

Lateknight
13-02-2010, 12:13 PM
Yeah, apologies for the confusion, the TDi 170 special editions are assembled by Audi and therefore carry WAU... chassis.
Only the TFSi 220hp special editions and the DTMs have WUA.. chassis numbers as they are assembled by quattro gmbh.

Just to clear up the engine difference between 220ps DTM / S.E engine and the standard 200psTfsi is software only .
The engines are physically identical.
They do have different engine codes: 220 = BUL , 200 = BGB or BWE.
Once chipped they should be the same.

sidewinder306
13-02-2010, 12:44 PM
Clearly the plates prove you correct but.
It seems strange that they go to the hassle of having quattro gmbh assemble the petrol models if they are already tooled up to assemble the TDI's at Audi and the only difference is software?
What is the point in having two assemly lines for essentially no reason.

Are there any differences between the TDI and petrol otherwise?

kodkod.84
13-02-2010, 01:21 PM
Petrol models gets drilled front discs and straight exit dual exhausts rather than the downturned ones on the TDI.

And less mpg :p

Lateknight
13-02-2010, 07:08 PM
Maybe testing out their production technique for the RS4. Who knows..(or cares ;))
I would assume the shells come pre (or part) assembled from the main factory and quattro gmbh finished them of with the extra goodies - Drilled disc brakes, 1BV (DTM) suspension, (S-lines use 1BE code suspension), door sill strips and the s-line steering wheel that started this all off - the version II gained the alacantara DTM type in 2007 sans badge.
SE Tfsi's also have slightly different gear ratios (shorter) than their 200ps cousins. From memory it works out to be about 1mph/1000rpm in top less*. Don't know why they bothered.

*This is for the FWD versions. I havn't looked at the quattro to see if thats different.