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ScottyUK
29-05-2009, 02:49 PM
As most of you will know I've been trying to sort out my re-order after a dealer cockup.
I've now moved up three levels in the company and I'm getting some real information.
The news is that any cars with start/stop technology i.e. MY2010 2.0T or 2.0TDI cars will not have Chrome exhausts tips even if they're S-lines and the brochure says they will.
Since my existing 2.0T S-line doesn't have them and the brochure I ordered against listed them and also the current brochure lists them one aswell one could suggest that Audi are mis-selling.
At the moment I don't know the size that the tips will be and hence don't know if retro-fitting tips will be possible or not.
Not a good show!
Is this fact? I cant believe it.
Im guessing the Milltek exhaust will be available soon. Does anyone have any experience of the cost of a Milltek system?
I suspect it has only to do with cost cutting, can't imagine there is any technology issue with Stop/Start and chrome tips... On the allroad, all the pictures show chrome tips but I wouldn't be surprised it they weren't showing up on my car when it gets delivered. Penny pinching no doubt, have all the pics ready for the dealer to see if they are missing on my car...
ive seen your non-chrome tips and i dont like em. (sorry :Blush:)
I've had to fire off an email to Audi UK asking for clarification, I will post the response when it arrives
Let me get this right, new S Lines will NOT have chrome exhausts tips? Ok, I know its only make up and does nothing to the exhaust but these little features add up to make the S Line model right? Seems a bit odd, normally they add extra things through out a model life, not remove things.
jakerade
29-05-2009, 05:32 PM
so there is a good reason for having a 2009 MY car after all!
kodkod.84
29-05-2009, 06:50 PM
OK Milltek exhausts- been toying with the idea of getting one for the B7, been quoted £577 including fitting from one company. That's for a dual side CAT back system with 100mm diameter stainless steel pipe ends, not sure on B8 spec/prices though.
Plife
29-05-2009, 06:53 PM
OK Milltek exhausts- been toying with the idea of getting one for the B7, been quoted £577 including fitting from one company. That's for a dual side CAT back system with 100mm diameter stainless steel pipe ends, not sure on B8 spec/prices though.
Not out yet for the B8. My car will be the development car and is due to go to Miltek in the middle of June.
kodkod.84
29-05-2009, 06:55 PM
Don't cry too much about not having the chrome tips:
£50 and they are yours
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-A4-A5-genuine-stainless-steel-exhaust-trims_W0QQitemZ140307249704QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item20aaf6ba28&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30
Sure but if they were included in the description of the ordered model, one shouldn't have to pay the extra £60 to get them....
kodkod.84
29-05-2009, 07:06 PM
I guess if they are stated in the brochure as being an OEM item and you don't get them when the car is delivered you can get the dealer to retrofit them at their expense.
onemanparty
29-05-2009, 07:19 PM
I guess if they are stated in the brochure as being an OEM item and you don't get them when the car is delivered you can get the dealer to retrofit them at their expense.
I do not think you will get anywhere with this as it always states that a Brochure can be amended at anytime without any come back to Audi see the back page
73kingstonroad
29-05-2009, 10:16 PM
Hi...
Put it this way... If mine doesn't come with chrome tail pipes then I guess I will be either walking home or they will be lending me a car till it's put right...
Martin
ScottyUK
29-05-2009, 10:47 PM
I'm afraid some of you are missing the key points on this. My current car MY2009 doesn't have chrome tips. It turns out on car S-line cars (I think 2.0T Avant's) the exhausts fitted are 80mm steel. i.e. during the last year or two Audi decided to scrap the chrome tips and instead put bigger steep tips on. They haven't changed the brochure though.
The problem is the Audi tips are too small to be fitted. In fact I can't find any that will fit even in Halfords chav section!
Additionally to this I know a guy who works at a dealer and he advised Audi UK of this over a year ago and the fact the brochure was misleading. Audi UK have not corrected the brochure.
The apparent get out clause on the back of the brochures :
"Specifications and prices subject to change without notice."
seems to cover changes but when they've not been delivering against a document that people buy against for over a year then it seems to be mis-selling or false advertising.
I'll be enquiring with Audi UK next week what size exhaust they will be. If I've no joy then I'll be talking to trading standards.
B19RAK
29-05-2009, 10:48 PM
As most of you will know I've been trying to sort out my re-order after a dealer cockup.
I've now moved up three levels in the company and I'm getting some real information.
The news is that any cars with start/stop technology i.e. MY2010 2.0T or 2.0TDI cars will not have Chrome exhausts tips even if they're S-lines and the brochure says they will.
Since my existing 2.0T S-line doesn't have them and the brochure I ordered against listed them and also the current brochure lists them one aswell one could suggest that Audi are mis-selling.
At the moment I don't know the size that the tips will be and hence don't know if retro-fitting tips will be possible or not.
Not a good show!
Am i right in thinking my my10 multitronic will have them on?
ScottyUK
29-05-2009, 10:51 PM
Errm I think it's just manuals this affects.
Bristle Hound
29-05-2009, 10:54 PM
Am i right in thinking my my10 multitronic will have them on?
Reading the post I bet it doesn't :mad:
Shame on Audi for this 1! :aargh4:
B19RAK
29-05-2009, 10:58 PM
Reading the post I bet it doesn't :mad:
Shame on Audi for this 1! :aargh4:
Am i right in thinking a multironic would not have stop start?
Red 2
30-05-2009, 06:05 AM
Would suspect that Audi will bring out additional retrofit polished SS items in due course.
Also think they will use the disclaimers in the order small print etc. re continuous change etc.....there are little variations going on all the time BUT if the brochure available at the time of order specifically said chromed exhausts, then a goodwill gesture should be in order if a customer is upset. Doubt that any court would however consider it worth more than that for a cosmetic item to a small part of the car and of no functional importance....and I speak as having an A4 with the offending items. Could be a first if someone rejects a car because of the exhaust finish....:D
Off on a tangent , have yet to see an A4 other than my one with clean exhausts or SS trims......wife has the opinion that I'm therefore the only one sad enough to give them a quick clean every week. And I have always Autoglymed the standard steel tips on other VAG cars....can't tell you her comments on that!:biglaugh:
Am i right in thinking a multironic would not have stop start?
Correct, stop/Start only on manual 2.0TFSI and 2.0TDI, not available on S Tronic or multitronic
Plife
30-05-2009, 07:28 AM
Looks like the aftermarket exhaust makers will get a lot of trade. I know that if mine was with the steel tips I would definitely be getting a new exhaust!
I have an answer back from Audi UK.
It somewhat contradicts this initial post.
Dear Mr Jop
Thank you for your email dated 29 May in reference to your interest in a new Audi A4 2.0 TFSI Sline.
According to the latest information provide by the Marketing Department the S-line model A4 does come with Chrome Rolled Exhausts, and this is not restricted to certain engines. I have not been advised of any change to this, however I will let you know if I am made aware of any further info.
If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
......
Audi Information Centre
Telephone: 0800 699888 (Ext ......)
Fax: 0113.......
However, I stopped at a services on the M4 yesterday and followed in a black '09 2.0 Quattro Sline Avant.
It had them horrid oversized steel ones too (not stainless, looked more like a piece of scaffold pole)
So still none the wiser.
topper33
01-06-2009, 08:53 PM
Another version of events told to me by my local Audi dealer (Beechwood)
When I collected my car on the 6th May, I noticed straight away that it didn`t have the chrome tips on but instead the afore mentioned "scaffold pipe". I was pretty cheesed off as I had mentioned this to my dealer while I was still waiting for my car after reading the trouble ScottyUK had had on here. "don`t worry, yours will definately have chrome covers on" they said.
So the guy at the dealer says that they would order the 60/65mm tailpipes and fit them on so I could have the chrome covers. One week later and my car was in the garage to have the correct tailpipes fitted and the chrome tips, when I had a phonecall from the service department saying that they couldn`t cut the larger 80mm`s off as the backbox was bigger so the chrome covers wouldn`t fit anway:zx11:.
So off I went to get my car when some snotty nosed service department guy was telling me that I was wrong and that they were the correct exhausts on the s-line after all. Hence storming off to grab an A4 brochure from reception and marching back showing him that it does state rolled chrome covers. Anyway (get to the point!!) this guy rang me back a couple of days later to tell me that Audi UK had confirmed to him that they would indeed be making larger chrome covers to fit the 80mm steel tailpipes sometime in the next few weeks, due to a large number of people complaining. Don`t know if this is true or not but I`m hanging on to the hope that I`ll get some soon. If not I`ve enquired about getting some made, all be it not as good a finish but better than what`s on there at the minute.:(
kodkod.84
01-06-2009, 09:23 PM
This is really making me laugh that Audi can screw up on something as basic as an exhaust tip :D
73kingstonroad
01-06-2009, 10:23 PM
Hi...
I wonder if the Audi R8 tips would fit.
They look a bigger diameter.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/sambry12/DSCF7349.jpg
When I had my Golf GTI I had some stainless steel sleeves made because of the amount of black soot / muck that would build up around the tips.
This is what they looked like.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/martininwillerby/VW%20Golf%20GTI/04032008108.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/martininwillerby/VW%20Golf%20GTI/19032008178.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/martininwillerby/VW%20Golf%20GTI/03032008099.jpg
Martin
73kingstonroad
02-06-2009, 08:31 AM
Hi...
Found this... £16
https://www.needforspeed.co.uk/pages/sbv_pn.asp?PartNo=ETE-FT700S&LineNo=54261000
https://www.needforspeed.co.uk/images/parts/ETE-FT700S.jpg
Martin
73kingstonroad
02-06-2009, 09:19 AM
Hi...
Also found these...
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pipe-Werx-Performance-Exhausts
Can be rolled in, out or slash cut and they are 3.5" (89mm) for £20 ish
http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/bd/28/58b2_1.JPG
http://i15.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/8e/9d/61d1_1_b.JPG
http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/8e/9d/609e_1_b.JPG
Martin
Would this be the sort of thing you are looking for?
http://www.hellokittyzone.com/hello-kitty-exhaust-pipe/
:)
:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
ScottyUK
21-07-2009, 03:00 PM
So anyone with a MY2010 2.0T S-line avant taken delivery yet?
A guy in Europe has and this is a pic of his car .... WITHOUT chrome tips. Lets hope Audi UK come through on this !!
http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6352&d=1248184831
I was following a 09 2.0T Avant S Line this morning and it did not have Chrome Exhaust Tips if thats any use to you. It was supplied by Swindon Audi.
I have and I have the scaffold pipe exhausts. Mine is the 2.0T Avant S-Line Quattro (manual) - I've been told that it's an issue with the rear drive train from the quattro on the estate leaving insufficient space for the chrome exhaust set for the 2.0T, which suggests this issue is limited to those of us who have (very sensibly of course) gone for the family rocket that can actually move in the wet.... ;)
I'm not sure where we're going with this - all I know is that now I know about it, it irritates the hell out of me whenever I look at the back of the car! Anyone have any further info on whether there's a fix proposed?
BMWBig6
21-07-2009, 04:40 PM
I've been told that it's an issue with the rear drive train from the quattro on the estate leaving insufficient space for the chrome exhaust set for the 2.0T, which suggests this issue is limited to those of us who have (very sensibly of course) gone for the family rocket that can actually move in the wet.... ;)
What? How is the rear drive train different between sedan and estate? There are some rear suspension differences between the sedan and estate, but what could possibly be limiting clearance for some relatively small exhaust tips?
ScottyUK
21-07-2009, 05:46 PM
It's obviously a different valance as the Avant has one each side and the saloon has them both on each side.
What happened to all the people who were told by there dealers that it would be resolved ? :confused:
The brochure still lists them so I won't be happy if I don't have chrome tips :zx11:
JamesMo
21-07-2009, 08:49 PM
My 2010My 2.0 TDI S-line's with "no I really haven't stalled at the lights it's the start-stop system" has got chrome exhaust tips - looks like it's only the petrol one that's missing them..
tigersargyle
21-07-2009, 11:09 PM
So anyone with a MY2010 2.0T S-line avant taken delivery yet?
A guy in Europe has and this is a pic of his car .... WITHOUT chrome tips. Lets hope Audi UK come through on this !!
http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6352&d=1248184831
I don't think this is the S-Line trim. The rear diffuser is the give away as there is no central mesh. From my reading of the A4 brochure it is only the S-line and not standard/SE models which benefit from the chrome rolled exhaust.
Having said that looking at the 58 plate 2.0T Quattro S-line Avant for sale in Southampton Audi the exhaust does not look particularly chrome!
http://usedcars.audi.co.uk/zoom.aspx?Id=600644686
Hoping Audi resolve this by the time my car arrives in September!
ScottyUK
21-07-2009, 11:33 PM
Good point. I saw the wheels and thought it was S-line. The owner has posted "The rims are similar (but not identical) to the ones offered with the
S line package over here" so I guess it's not.
Still no one with a 2.0T S-line Avant? I didn't think this was a rare car!!
tigersargyle
21-07-2009, 11:51 PM
Good point. I saw the wheels and thought it was S-line. The owner has posted "The rims are similar (but not identical) to the ones offered with the
S line package over here" so I guess it's not.
Still no one with a 2.0T S-line Avant? I didn't think this was a rare car!!
At least we can compare our finished products on the same day - roll on 1 September
What? How is the rear drive train different between sedan and estate? There are some rear suspension differences between the sedan and estate, but what could possibly be limiting clearance for some relatively small exhaust tips?
Fair enough - don't shoot the messenger, I'm no expert, that's for sure! But it does seem to be limited to the estate and to quattro s-lines (I'm sure earlier threads have posters with non-quattro 2.0 s-line avants with chrome). Scotty's comment that the exhausts are both to one side on the saloon is part way an answer - thanks, I hadn't realised.
I'll go back to the dealer to lean a bit harder and post back if I learn any more.
The S4 Avant come with chrome tips.
Whatever the excuse, they need to provide a solution. Picking my car up in 3 weeks and am already dreading this conversation.
It's not limited to quattro as my FWD 2.0T Avant (March 09) does not have the chrome tail pipes.
I am still in contact with the dealer seeing if they can sort this out....but no result as yet!
kavithakrar
22-07-2009, 10:23 PM
It's not limited to quattro as my FWD 2.0T Avant (March 09) does not have the chrome tail pipes.
I am still in contact with the dealer seeing if they can sort this out....but no result as yet!
I collected in May, 2.0TFSI Quattro S-Line
Chrome exhausts are fitted on my car
Kav
tigersargyle
22-07-2009, 11:29 PM
I collected in May, 2.0TFSI Quattro S-Line
Chrome exhausts are fitted on my car
Kav
Kav
Is your A4 an Avant or Saloon? I get the feeling this is a 2.0 TFSI Avant S-Line (maybe also 6 cylinder models) only problem due to the rear diffuser and set up of the two exhaust pipes (one on each side of the car compared to two on the left side).
BMWBig6
23-07-2009, 12:15 AM
Fair enough - don't shoot the messenger, I'm no expert, that's for sure! But it does seem to be limited to the estate and to quattro s-lines (I'm sure earlier threads have posters with non-quattro 2.0 s-line avants with chrome). Scotty's comment that the exhausts are both to one side on the saloon is part way an answer - thanks, I hadn't realised.
I'll go back to the dealer to lean a bit harder and post back if I learn any more.
Sorry if you felt like I was attacking you, I didn't mean to at all. I was just challenging your dealer's claim or theory.
I know the Avant has 2 mufflers (and thus 2 exit pipes) for improved noise suppression (since we have less isolation from the exhaust than sedans with enclosed trunks).
I dont know if i have already said this... but...
My MY2009 (September 08) Avant 2.0TFSI FWD Does have rolled chrome exhausts
ScottyUK
23-07-2009, 08:16 AM
Pah !! You're just posting to confuse us !!
:biglaugh:
Dirty... but chrome
http://gallery.me.com/jonpaul99/100180/photo1241005065490/web.jpg?ver=12410050650001
ScottyUK
23-07-2009, 11:35 AM
Grrr and now you're teasing us !! :mad:
;)
p.s. They look much smaller than my steel tips !
Plife
23-07-2009, 11:58 AM
Damn they look so small! I can't believe Audi cannot sort this out!
kavithakrar
23-07-2009, 02:20 PM
Kav
Is your A4 an Avant or Saloon? I get the feeling this is a 2.0 TFSI Avant S-Line (maybe also 6 cylinder models) only problem due to the rear diffuser and set up of the two exhaust pipes (one on each side of the car compared to two on the left side).
Mine is the saloon, not sure about the avant
Cheers
:beerchug:
Sorry if you felt like I was attacking you, I didn't mean to at all. I was just challenging your dealer's claim or theory.
I know the Avant has 2 mufflers (and thus 2 exit pipes) for improved noise suppression (since we have less isolation from the exhaust than sedans with enclosed trunks).
No worries at all.
This is all really confusing now - the only thing that stands out from the past few posts is that Jop's is a little older than, e.g. AVO1's and mine (April 09). Quattro clearly isn't the deciding factor (if there even is one).
Does this mean we're heading back to the Audi cheapskate cost-cutting - or could it be that they decided there was some benefit to larger pipes (or issue with the smaller chromes) with the avant's exhaust system as compared to the saloon's?
I'm going to explain all of this to Audi UK and ask for an explanation that's something better than just trotting out that the brochure quotes chrome, so they should be chrome, blah blah... deerstalker and pipe ready!
Look forward to hearing what Audi UK have to say on this.
Let us know how you get on.
Cheers
ScottyUK
23-07-2009, 05:44 PM
What happened to those that said their dealers promised to resolve any issues etc ?
smellster
24-07-2009, 07:48 PM
Just to add that the exhausts on my recently collected 3.0tdi are chrome, although not particularly shiny.
Today dealer fitted chrome exhausts (at no cost) - so finally a result!
Dealer said it took some negotiation with Audi UK.
They look great & dramatically improve the look of the car from the rear/side.
So, for those trying to resolve this issue - keep pressuring your dealer!
ScottyUK
25-07-2009, 10:45 PM
So did you get a replacement cat back silencer fitted? I guess it's more than just slide on tips??
It was a 'while you wait' job - taking less than 10 minutes (including car taken to/from service bay) & I believe that it was just slide on chrome tips (though if that's the case I'm not sure why they need to take it to the service bay - other than it being standard procedure).
73kingstonroad
27-07-2009, 05:49 AM
It was a 'while you wait' job - taking less than 10 minutes (including car taken to/from service bay) & I believe that it was just slide on chrome tips (though if that's the case I'm not sure why they need to take it to the service bay - other than it being standard procedure).
Any chance of some pictures
And what size are they (diameter)
Martin
This is the first fix issued that we have heard of. How very exciting.
Now.. During the life of this thread We learnt that the old chrome tips did not fit the new exhaust as they are a wider diamater..
So, is this an Audi UK fix with new tip by audi that does fit.
Or
A 3rd party ebay special issued by the dealer to keep Mr. AZ01 happy??
Your guess is as good as mine at the moment, lets hope we hear more reports of replacement tips.
Any chance of some pictures
And what size are they (diameter)
Martin
Diameter is 80mm
I grabbed a quick photo this evening (though doesn't quite do them justice as the light was low)
73kingstonroad
27-07-2009, 09:11 PM
Diameter is 80mm
I grabbed a quick photo this evening (though doesn't quite do them justice as the light was low)
Looks good, does it have a EKA number stamped on it. If not I'd guess it's an after market one. As long as the quality is good and it looks good then that's a result.
If i'd of been in the same situation then I would have gone after market and sent the dealer the bill... :biglaugh:
Martin
Diameter is 80mm
I grabbed a quick photo this evening (though doesn't quite do them justice as the light was low)
These are a great improvement. I hope this is the official fix and the end of the saga.
Eire12
02-08-2009, 12:07 PM
Hi Guys,
I just received my chrome tips exhaust for my A4. I ordered them from an Audi dealer on Ebay. Genuine Audi parts. These were for the 1.8TFSI 4 cylinder model (dual exhaust) On the box it says they fit both the A4 and A5.
Just fitted them today and they look great. A big improvement from the existing tips.
Regards,
G
ScottyUK
02-08-2009, 01:05 PM
These normal tips apparently won't fit the 2009 S-lines which came with larger pipes. That's the problem otherwise we'd just hassle the dealers tothrow these in free.
21stCentury
02-08-2009, 07:40 PM
I got a sneak preview of my new A4 on Friday. I originally ordered it wk22 for delivery Sept but it has already arrived at the dealer. I went to check the spec after reading about the various problems encountered by other customers. I can confirm that all is present and correct and it is a MY2010. And, yes it does have chrome exhaust tips.
Picked up my 2010 A4 2.0 TDI S-Line Executive on Monday. It features the Chrome exhaust tips. Sorry about angle of the picture, I took it before reading this thread.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3792429147_8b3175863a_b.jpg
jakerade
06-08-2009, 04:00 PM
off topic but relevant to the picture - i have been worrying about this for a while... The B8 S-Line 18" wheels dont fill the arches like the B7 18" wheels did? Dare i say it but it could do with chavy 5-10mm spacers?
tigersargyle
06-08-2009, 09:42 PM
off topic but relevant to the picture - i have been worrying about this for a while... The B8 S-Line 18" wheels dont fill the arches like the B7 18" wheels did? Dare i say it but it could do with chavy 5-10mm spacers?
That's one reason I have gone for the 30mm lowered s-line suspension option. Hope that will help!
Didn't fancy the 19" due to compromise of ride, extra cost and more importantly to me having recently owned BBS Pescara alloys on my GTI the 5 spokes will be an ease to clean.
That's one reason I have gone for the 30mm lowered s-line suspension option. Hope that will help!
Didn't fancy the 19" due to compromise of ride, extra cost and more importantly to me having recently owned BBS Pescara alloys on my GTI the 5 spokes will be an ease to clean.
Interesting, my car is an S-Line and is lowered 30mm...
jakerade
07-08-2009, 07:21 AM
have 30mm myself though could still do with being a little wider
tigersargyle
07-08-2009, 07:27 AM
Interesting, my car is an S-Line and is lowered 30mm...
What is your personal view of the wheels filling the arches? Difficult to say from your picture, but I don't really see the problem raised by our friend!
Sportwag
07-08-2009, 08:56 AM
Picked up my 2010 A4 2.0 TDI S-Line Executive on Monday. It features the Chrome exhaust tips. Sorry about angle of the picture, I took it before reading this thread.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3792429147_8b3175863a_b.jpg
Did you go for the 20mm or 30mm drop - I am worried the 30mm will be too harsh for NI roads?
Hi I went for the 30mm. The ride is spot on.
NI roads are better than alot of the ones I drive in Scotland these days ;)
Collected today (thread and pics to follow) MY2010 Sline Avant 2.0TFSI q
No chrome exhausts :( I wont bother posting the picture, you know what they look like by now.
This is the first the dealer has heard of it and he'll take it up with Audi UK.
ScottyUK
07-08-2009, 10:03 PM
That's as feared but not welcome news. :(
I'll email my dealer and ask him if he believes the issues resolved. No doubt he'll then get on to Audi UK and hence we'll have more than one complaint on this going in.
CarbonS4
16-08-2009, 08:33 AM
Collected today (thread and pics to follow) MY2010 Sline Avant 2.0TFSI q
No chrome exhausts :( I wont bother posting the picture, you know what they look like by now.
This is the first the dealer has heard of it and he'll take it up with Audi UK.
Our car has arrived at the dealer (see other thread) its a 2.0 TDI 143 S Line Exec Avant and it has Chrome exhaust tips :approve: , when i spoke to the dealer he said, he has had cars both with and without the tips :confused:
Hippogriff
16-08-2009, 02:20 PM
You start to wonder if this is not actually some kind of statement of intent by Audi - in a subversive effort to reduce costs - but is actually just a ****-up, and a pretty random one at that... possibly sometimes the factory runs out of the parts and they shift if out without putting 'em on, or maybe there is one chap there who hasn't been trained properly and ain't putting chrome on the S lines that pass by him (dunno if it works like that)... obviously Audi quality control (at factory and dealer?) is not working as expected, unless they are complicit.
You suspect the "part missing, but fit later" angle might work... but then there'd be some notes added to whatever tick-sheets they must work to. Then again, some customers will notice, and some won't.... some of those who notice will complain, and some won't...
At first, I thought this was Avants only... but I still asked my dealer to specifically double-check this before sending my S line saloon to me... but it seems not.
Nothing worse than randomness where some get lucky and some lose out.
Cheers, DpM
ScottyUK
16-08-2009, 05:08 PM
I don't think I've seen chrome on a 2.0T Avant yet :(
Sportwag
16-08-2009, 05:55 PM
Are all the MY2010 2.0 TFSI's missing chrome tips or is it just Quattros? By the looks of things the TDI's all seem to have them.
ScottyUK
16-08-2009, 06:10 PM
Dunno about MY2010 but my MY2009 FWD 2.0T Avant didn't get them.
Are all the MY2010 2.0 TFSI's missing chrome tips or is it just Quattros? By the looks of things the TDI's all seem to have them.
I'm pretty sure its just the TFSI Avant. The saloon appears to have them (the exhaust layout is different).
Update and some good news on this subject. Email from dealer on Friday to confirm that he has heard back from Audi UK, who have, "come across this problem before". The chromes are now on order - just a matter of sitting tight until they arrive. I've asked the part number and will let you know as and when I hear back, in case it might help those of you who are still fighting in the dark.
Incidentally, from reviews of all the posts on this it does seem that the problem is limited to 2.0Tfsi Avants. There seem to be a disproportionately high number of us driving this model on the site (I'm sure there's a message in there), as my dealer suggested the reason they hadn't heard of this issue is that the majority of their sales are diesels. Fair enough, I suppose, and he has moved the issue forward. I'll reserve final credit and praise until they're fitted and I'm happy though!
ScottyUK
17-08-2009, 12:26 PM
Excellent news! :D
Part number on order is 8K0071761. Fingers crossed!
ScottyUK
17-08-2009, 04:11 PM
And just for clarity ..... you do thave the "large tin can" exhausts currently?
i.e. about 80mm diameter
And just for clarity ..... you do thave the "large tin can" exhausts currently?
i.e. about 80mm diameter
Certainly do - see attached.
6606
6607
Hippogriff
17-08-2009, 05:26 PM
Oh dear, those do spoil it a bit. Thankfully you pushed to get things changed... so many [unobservant?] purchasers will not even know.
BMWBig6
17-08-2009, 06:24 PM
I don't find many references to 8K0 071 761 online yet, is this a new part?
ScottyUK
18-08-2009, 07:53 AM
Errrrrrmmm I'm no longer hopeful about the above dealer resolution. I did a search on some of the US forums for the part number and it seems this is a conventional tip and hence won't fit on the new larger tips.
Here's one post :
"I went to my local dealer today to pick up my special order tips and whatya know, they do not fit the Avant. The ones I got would actually slip INSIDE the current pipes. I was told nothing's in production to fit the larger 80mm pipes. If anyone knows of a manufacturer, please send info on to me."
I've not had a good look at the tips on the car but since 8K0071761 is a small slip on (with clips) I really can't see it going over the existing larger tips or even being able to be used as a swap out item.
I hope I'm wrong but I don't think we're any nearer a solution. :(
Thanks for the research Scotty. Think I will have to wait now to see what arrives at the dealer, but agree it doesn't look as if this is the solution - unless they can replace the existing tailpipes with smaller ones then fit the chromes over the top... Which brings us back to what I think was one of the first questions on this - why these big 80mm things in the first place?
ScottyUK
19-08-2009, 06:15 PM
My car's apparently now at the dealers. The salesmans gone off to check the exhausts. Since I've not heard from him for a few hours I take it that they're not chrome so he's probably making some calls.
I can't start making my calls until I know the situation.
Im told my tips are in and I just need to organize a time to fit them.
Probably monday.... Watch this space.
Just to recap from earlier post.
I have had the chrome tips fitted a few weeks back (not sure what the part number was though) & they did fit over the 80mm pipes & look fine (Audi UK assisted the dealer in resolving this)- so there is definitely a solution out there.
ScottyUK
20-08-2009, 11:55 AM
This is a thread of many up's and down's. :D
Is there any change you can call your dealer and find out the part number. I'm also interested in whether these have a clip to hold them on or a grub screw.
Cheers - you've moved a cloud a little futher away ;)
Hillbeley
20-08-2009, 03:13 PM
I still have a love hate with my 2.0T A4 but I do think it is improved with the chrome "sports tips" I bought from Audi (£55 ish the pair).
Here it is with the wife's A3.
BMWBig6
21-08-2009, 07:13 PM
Just to recap from earlier post.
I have had the chrome tips fitted a few weeks back (not sure what the part number was though) & they did fit over the 80mm pipes & look fine (Audi UK assisted the dealer in resolving this)- so there is definitely a solution out there.
Would you mind snapping a few pics for us jealous naked-tip owners? I'm also curious about the attachment method.
I still have a love hate with my 2.0T A4 but I do think it is improved with the chrome "sports tips" I bought from Audi (£55 ish the pair).
Here it is with the wife's A3.
I read about your broken spring ordeal. That's a great looking Avant, do you have any more photos online?
Sportwag
21-08-2009, 08:55 PM
I read about your broken spring ordeal. That's a great looking Avant, do you have any more photos online?[/QUOTE]
Broken Spring? I was hoping to have left these types of problems behind by switching from Saab to Audi...
Hillbeley
21-08-2009, 10:31 PM
The tips I got for my 2.0T were part no: V8K0 071 762 £54:00 from Bridgend Sinclair Audi.
They push on without grubs and look fine.
The tips I got for my 2.0T were part no: V8K0 071 762 £54:00 from Bridgend Sinclair Audi.
They push on without grubs and look fine.
Likewise - no grub screw - push on tips.
Guess these are the same part number.
I agree they look fine (I posted a thumbnail photo a few weeks back in this thread)
ScottyUK
22-08-2009, 11:19 AM
I'm still not convined that these ones will fit. If you're saying they are 80mm then that means they won't fit over the 80mm ones that are the problem. :(
BMWBig6
22-08-2009, 04:58 PM
Anyone know German? This is all I could find when I Googled the 762 part number:
http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/sport-endrohrblenden-fuer-modell-2010-t2289841.html
ScottyUK
22-08-2009, 06:04 PM
Here's the translation. Hopeful but inconclusive :
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motor-talk.de%2Fforum%2Fsport-endrohrblenden-fuer-modell-2010-t2289841.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
ScottyUK
24-08-2009, 12:47 PM
My new car (2.0T S-line Avant) did NOT get delivered to the dealer with the Chrome tips :zx11:
but I've had a phone call to say that they ordered them and they're now fitted :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:. Well done to Stansted Audi :beerchug:
The part number they used was : AKO 071761
Don't all rush at once ;)
p.s. Since some of the earlier posts suggested 8K0071761 I reckon what I've been told is wrong. i.e. the salesman misheard it. I reckon 8K0071761 is it
Plife
24-08-2009, 01:18 PM
Good news Scotty!!! :beerchug:
ScottyUK
24-08-2009, 02:43 PM
I just had a thought....I wonder if the car came with the large tips or not :confused:
They look like the normal smaller ones :
http://accessories.audi.co.uk/accessories/displayImage.do?metaId=1363
Time will tell but the part number does seem to match some earlier posts. Perhaps Audi UK have given up on the bigguns? Perhaps these are the bigguns? I just dunno any more :aargh4:
BMWBig6
24-08-2009, 05:06 PM
I just had a thought....I wonder if the car came with the large tips or not :confused:
They look like the normal smaller ones :
http://accessories.audi.co.uk/accessories/displayImage.do?metaId=1363
Time will tell but the part number does seem to match some earlier posts. Perhaps Audi UK have given up on the bigguns? Perhaps these are the bigguns? I just dunno any more :aargh4:
So now I'm confused. Did you collect your car yet (and did you confirm if you got the right tips for the 80mm version? Or are you saying yours look smaller than 80mm?
tigersargyle
24-08-2009, 05:16 PM
I just had a thought....I wonder if the car came with the large tips or not :confused:
They look like the normal smaller ones :
http://accessories.audi.co.uk/accessories/displayImage.do?metaId=1363
Time will tell but the part number does seem to match some earlier posts. Perhaps Audi UK have given up on the bigguns? Perhaps these are the bigguns? I just dunno any more :aargh4:
I think I will wait and see how you judge this adaption on collection.
I personally quite like the size of the 80mm tips - makes it look more powerful and sporty. I don't see it being a proper solution if they have cut the ends off and applied, albeit in chrome a smaller tip.
Scotty - please report back on collection - thanks
ScottyUK
24-08-2009, 05:21 PM
Not collected yet so no guarantees but the sales guy did say 80mm tips. The pic is off the Audi site and my comment was simply that they look smaller in the photo. I'll definately report back on collection. I may get a change to pop in and have a look and snap some pics before.
ScottyUK
24-08-2009, 05:22 PM
p.s. Either way they're not Chrome tips. They're all "highly polished stainless steel" ;)
Ive just been eyeing up some S4 B8s on the Audi website. The S4s dont come with chrome tips either! There is a 09 plate black saloon and a Red one with out um!
Er my 09 spec S4 had chrome tips I think.
The '10 one better have :)
John
It would be a worry. Take a look at B8 S4 on the Audi Used Car site. A fair few with out them............ best of luck!
I'm not sure. The S4 exhausts aren't particularly massive anyway, most of those photos are terrible - and in most cases the cars are filthy. The clean ones do appear to have chrome exhaust tips.
*shrug*
We'll see I guess.
John
Hippogriff
25-08-2009, 03:07 PM
Just to complete the circle from my perspective, car (S line, not Avant) arrived at Audi and they have told me "The car has definitely got the chrome exhausts and the AMI cables you require are also in stock." which is nice.
Hillbeley
25-08-2009, 09:51 PM
Just to cap the size issue, I have shown the chrome tip on a 2.0T , SE with Audi tips, they show them sloppily holding a coke can, which is shown as being 66mm OD.
Some wanted a few photos, with the 6 spoke alloys and the brillant red - just an SE sorry!
BMWBig6
26-08-2009, 02:49 AM
Very nice, thanks for sharing Hillbeley. What is the OD of the tips?
ScottyUK
26-08-2009, 08:03 AM
Good job. It looks like we're getting/got to the bottom of it. :beerchug:
I just hope the dealers do put them on for people. I bet there'll be many without (who won't complain/notice) and more who's new car collection will have a small cloud over it. :(
tigersargyle
26-08-2009, 08:51 AM
Good job. It looks like we're getting/got to the bottom of it. :beerchug:
I just hope the dealers do put them on for people. I bet there'll be many without (who won't complain/notice) and more who's new car collection will have a small cloud over it. :(
Yes seems we are getting there.
Scotty it would be much appreciated if when you have inspected on delivery that your dealer has found the correct solution if he could clarify/confirm the part number to be ordered. I seem to recall on an earlier thread you were not convinced he had informed you correctly. My dealer has yet to return the results of his investigation and I doubt he will by 1 Sept.
Fingers crossed this is now sorted and I can point my dealer in the right direction.
Thanks
I saw a 59 plate 2.0T in Black at the petrol station this morning. Audi garage is just 30 yards away. It did NOT have chrome tips. So whoever is picking that bad boy up in a few days will either be disapointed or wont care.
ScottyUK
26-08-2009, 09:28 AM
Yes seems we are getting there.
Scotty it would be much appreciated if when you have inspected on delivery that your dealer has found the correct solution if he could clarify/confirm the part number to be ordered. I seem to recall on an earlier thread you were not convinced he had informed you correctly. My dealer has yet to return the results of his investigation and I doubt he will by 1 Sept.
Fingers crossed this is now sorted and I can point my dealer in the right direction.
Thanks
The part # is correct it was just that I was unsure whether the exhuast was large or small. I'm more and more confident they're large and hence the part # is the one to solve the issue.
Hoping to get up there Thursday or Friday morning.
ScottyUK
26-08-2009, 04:17 PM
Just to continue to ridiculous amount of confusion on this ; I've just noticed in the brochure ( http://www.audi.co.uk/etc/medialib/cms4imp/audi2/uk/Products/a4/pdf.Par.0050.File.pdf ) that in the accessories section the part that's just been fitted to my S-line is listed as "*Cannot be fitted to S line models."
I guess that's just like the mudflaps then :aargh4:
Just to continue to ridiculous amount of confusion on this ; I've just noticed in the brochure ( http://www.audi.co.uk/etc/medialib/cms4imp/audi2/uk/Products/a4/pdf.Par.0050.File.pdf ) that in the accessories section the part that's just been fitted to my S-line is listed as "*Cannot be fitted to S line models."
I guess that's just like the mudflaps then :aargh4:
Thats because its already supposed to be there.
Mine get pushed on on friday AM. ;)
steve1234
27-08-2009, 02:20 PM
Just had a new 59 plate s-line delivered in Monza silver and it has chrome exhaust tips. Strange thing is it also has the black optic pack so I didn't really expect it to have chrome exhausts!!!!
Will be fitting some black wheels today / tomorrow to complete the look and I'll then post a couple of pictures.
ScottyUK
27-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Take them off, flog them on here and then get the black Hammerite out ;):D
Mine get pushed on on friday AM. ;)
Well.... Its friday AM and guess what....
The wrong size tips were ordered. - Shock Horror. Cant say I'm surprised given then huge amount of confusion at Audi UK, AG and the dealers surrounding this.
:confused:What I dont get though is how the same dealer with an almost identical car to mine (scotty's) managed to order the wrong ones for me and the right ones for him. :confused:
Hippogriff
28-08-2009, 09:42 AM
It sounds such a harsh word, but it is what I generally describe as "incompetence"... sadly, along with lack of any attention to detail, it is all prevailing in, seemingly, most places you go.
Or is it just most places that I go..?
Er, hang on... is there a common theme of "me" there?
awtaylor
28-08-2009, 10:48 AM
Take them off, flog them on here and then get the black Hammerite out ;):D
Apparently there is a good market out there for second hand chrome tips (sorry if I appear insensitive, but I couldn't help myself):aargh4:
ScottyUK
28-08-2009, 11:42 AM
Well.... Its friday AM and guess what....
The wrong size tips were ordered. - Shock Horror. Cant say I'm surprised given then huge amount of confusion at Audi UK, AG and the dealers surrounding this.
:confused:What I dont get though is how the same dealer with an almost identical car to mine (scotty's) managed to order the wrong ones for me and the right ones for him. :confused:
Oh FFS !! It's crazy!! Do you know the part number that they ordered? I guess normally they'd fix this the next day but todays Friday so I guess Tuesday ?? :confused:
Sorry dude :(
p.s. If mine disappear I'm gonna hunt you down!!!!!!!! :p
mohammadrasool
08-09-2009, 01:34 PM
ScottyUK could you please confim if they have fitted the chrome exhaust tips to your 6 cylinder car, also could you please confirm the part no.
thanks
Bratty
08-09-2009, 03:39 PM
Strangely on the Audi AG. site it quoted that all S-line 4 cylinder cars would have chrome exhausts, EXCEPT!!! the 2.0TFSI Avant. That has in the latest teutonic brouchure changed to all 4 cylinder S-line (exterior) models (ab April 2009).
MMMH! even the REAL!! Audi concern seems to be confused.:confused: Get your chrome tip "goodwill gesture" confirmed NOW! before someone realises its a typo error
Dunk
Strangely on the Audi AG. site it quoted that all S-line 4 cylinder cars would have chrome exhausts, EXCEPT!!! the 2.0TFSI Avant. That has in the latest teutonic brouchure changed to all 4 cylinder S-line (exterior) models (ab April 2009).
MMMH! even the REAL!! Audi concern seems to be confused.:confused: Get your chrome tip "goodwill gesture" confirmed NOW! before someone realises its a typo error
Dunk
Thanks bratty. As they ordered the wrong one initially and im still waiting the correct tips!!. I'll chase them right NOW.
Bratty
08-09-2009, 04:05 PM
I thought that you had planned to nick Scotty“s, or have you come to an agreement where you have one chrome tip each!!
Dunk
ScottyUK
08-09-2009, 04:30 PM
I grabbed hold of mine that other day and gave them a firm pull. Without this turning into a challenge......they seem pretty secure to me ;)
Red 2
08-09-2009, 05:14 PM
I grabbed hold of mine that other day and gave them a firm pull. Without this turning into a challenge......they seem pretty secure to me ;)
Bit worried this has morphed into a medical discussion.....:D:biglaugh:
:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
Grabbed hold of it and gave it a firm pull
:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
..... wrong forum scotty. :biglaugh:
ScottyUK
08-09-2009, 05:46 PM
Scarily my exhaust tips are more secure than my medical bits.
After having the second and final kiddy recently and being 40, there's the shadow of a man with a knife and a pair of scissors looming over my shoulder. :aargh4:
Today... They finished building my car.
Dealer supplied and fitted the tips FoC
Official Audi Part, 8K 0 071 762
I snapped a picture of the box.. because I can
http://gallery.me.com/jonpaul99/100180/IMG_0288/web.jpg?ver=12525123910001
Before:
http://gallery.me.com/jonpaul99/100180/Fyigg/web.jpg?ver=12496569620001
After:
http://gallery.me.com/jonpaul99/100180/IMG_0287/web.jpg?ver=12525124050001
That's it now... My13 month saga with my car has come to an end and FINALLY I'm happy.
ScottyUK
09-09-2009, 06:47 PM
They look so much better :D
Just FYI, my S4 came with the 4 chrome exhausts I was expecting :)
Sure, yours are all bigger but size isn't everything ;)
ScottyUK
27-09-2009, 10:04 AM
If you tell yourself that enough then you might end up believing it :D
Fastcar53
30-09-2009, 07:57 PM
Not sure where we got to with the chrome saga but I can confirm that my 2010 2.0 Tdi 170 S Line came with chrome tips. Someone may have already confirmed this but I was not feeling up to checking 14 pages of forum topic.
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