clutch problem

[weather]

Hi
it was frosty this morning and about a mile in my trip to work i found i could not change gear the clutch pedal was at a lower position than normal so it only travelled about half its normal distance meaning the clutch would not disingage i managed to get it to work by which time i was able change gear again so could get out of second but travel on pedal still short
one of my work mates checked pedal and after pressing down and pulling all the way up it returned to normal position and is working ok now
but what was the cause and how to stop it happening again is the question.

[Crasher]

If it is a five speed then it is usually the master cylinder which is not that bad to do. If it is a six speed it could be the slave cylinder and that means pulling the box.

[weather]

If it is a five speed then it is usually the master cylinder which is not that bad to do. If it is a six speed it could be the slave cylinder and that means pulling the box.

its a 6 speed, so you are saying the slave cylinder is faulty rather than iced up linkage as it seams ok now, sounds like more expense another item to add to the list for after christmas

[Crasher]

If the problem comes and goes then that is a common symptom of concentric release bearing failure. There is no linkage, it is hydraulic using the same fluid as the brakes and can’t freeze in our temperatures unless it is extremely heavily water contaminated. Have the system bled if the problem persists. I always do the master cylinder first but on six speed cars it is the slave cylinder most of the time. Obviously with how difficult the slave is to do, you still do the master first.

[weather]

If the problem comes and goes then that is a common symptom of concentric release bearing failure. There is no linkage, it is hydraulic using the same fluid as the brakes and can’t freeze in our temperatures unless it is extremely heavily water contaminated. Have the system bled if the problem persists. I always do the master cylinder first but on six speed cars it is the slave cylinder most of the time. Obviously with how difficult the slave is to do, you still do the master first.


hi
i take it the bearing you refer too is in one the cylinders, the fluid was changed with service in May done by garage
hope does not fail while i am in england next week with it
thanks for the info
Harold

[M53494]

My clutch pedal does the same thing, it did it tonight before setting off to work (Its always before I start the engine). I just lift it back into its up position and it behaves OK again then. The pedal only does this now and again - possibly once every two or three months or so. Could this also be the master/slave cylinder at fault?

[weather]

My clutch pedal does the same thing, it did it tonight before setting off to work (Its always before I start the engine). I just lift it back into its up position and it behaves OK again then. The pedal only does this now and again - possibly once every two or three months or so. Could this also be the master/slave cylinder at fault?
Hi
how long has yours been doing it for, and i would say yes to the last part of quote
Harold

[Crasher]

The release bearing and slave cylinder on cars with the 02M 6 speed box is what is commonly called a concentric release bearing or concentric slave cylinder (VAG call it a “release bearing with hydraulic operation”) and is an all in one unit that means the box has to come out to change it. Whilst it is out it makes good sense to change the clutch and flywheel. The VW part number is 0A5 141 671 and they cost £40 from VW.


http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd20/Crasher1964/concentricreleasebearing.jpg

[M53494]

Hi
how long has yours been doing it for, and i would say yes to the last part of quote
Harold

Its been doing it for a good three to four years.

[d@ve]

This happened to my car this morning, the clutch went down and stayed down, I pulled it back up and it works fine.

Is this something that can be lived with for a while, and just having to pull it back up up when it does it, or is it likely to fail completely?

How much for a dealer to fix?

[FLENG2008]

i have had exactly the same problem
had the master done then the bleed housing and all new o rings, then finally it was the slave...

[d@ve]

How much did it cost to get the slave done?

[Crasher]

It will eventually fail completely but I have known them do this for at least a year before failing. Unfortunately, with yours being a six speed, it may not be the master cylinder, it is possibly the concentric slave cylinder/ release bearing but I suggest doing the master cylinder first to see if that cures it.

[FLENG2008]

How much did it cost to get the slave done?

i think it was ?120 labour, with the option to put a new clutch in at the same time..
the slave was about 40 from vw

[Crasher]

As I said in my previous post about this, I don’t know how your mechanic survives on the labour he charges, VW quote an unrealistic 510 time units on that job and it takes longer, it takes me a full day.

[FLENG2008]

as I Said In My Previous Post About This, I Don’t Know How Your Mechanic Survives On The Labour He Charges, Vw Quote An Unrealistic 510 Time Units On That Job And It Takes Longer, It Takes Me A Full Day.

I Dunno Why Either?
I Got It Done At A.f.d. Mapperly Top. But He Has Done A Few Clutchs Before On The 6 Speed Box's, So He Knew What He Was Taking On, Plus He Is A Friend Of The Family, I Think He Would Usually Charge 150-175
He Did It On A Saturday Too, Which Is A Half Day?

[Crasher]

Yes I know them, I did a couple of jobs for them a few weeks back.

[ross87green]

hi there new to the form and need some help!!!

drive a golf gti turbo on an 02 plate,on my way to work this morning was about to pull away and ma car would not go into gear.not sure if its the clutch or the gearbox.when the cars not started selecting a gear is no problem but the clutch feels fine too.

[FLENG2008]

hi there new to the form and need some help!!!

drive a golf gti turbo on an 02 plate,on my way to work this morning was about to pull away and ma car would not go into gear.not sure if its the clutch or the gearbox.when the cars not started selecting a gear is no problem but the clutch feels fine too.

are you getting the same problems as everyone else
soft pedal or pedal going to the floor?

[Crasher]

That is a clutch problem but it is odd that the clutch feels fine, it sounds as though the release bearing arm has failed but I normally only see that on 5 speed boxes with heavy duty clutches.

[ross87green]

i went back to my car 2nyt to tow it home and its giving me different symptoms.now when i start it it makes a grinding noise and i can select gear without the clutch :zx11: iv been quoted 550 (is this a good price???) for a refurb gearbox if i take it out.thanx for the help i will soon find out whts wrong at the wkend when i get the box out :o

[Crasher]

Let’s see what is wrong first.