New water feature

[apole]

Suffered a common problem today with the heavy rain. Car full of water on passenger side, even on top of the mats.

Apparantly this is common and something to do with a drain hose near the pollen filter/battery.

Anyone experienced this, is the part easy to get at and change?

What a nice end to the day :(

If it's something that can be checked, I'd advise people to check occasionally as the amount of water in there is unreal. Hope it doesn't damage anything till I can get it seen to.

[apole]

Been doing some research on this as the likely cost of repair could be quite high, not only to remove and dry the carpets, but also the convenience ECU is located in the passenger area and if that gets wet, it will cost big bucks.

There are 2 reasons the water can get in, firstly around the pollen filter, for which there is a fix, and also the drain holes under the battery get blocked, for this you need to check them.

Posts below but well worth checking out, when you get this problem you will regret it....

Hope it helps.

http://www.passatworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212738&highlight=leak

http://www.weirdlittlebiscuit.com/passat/leak/

[greas-E-monkey]

Common problem with passat (3B) The pollen filter housing seal perishes and allows water in to the passenger side footwell. The wiring conectors/terminals become damaged and corroded often causing alarm faults ( false alarms etc).
Terminals to be renewed and the convienence control unit also.
The carpet and underlay will need to be dried out or renewed. Light colours will stain, beige or grey. Black carpets are usually ok.
Sometimes get a nasty whif that remains even when dry! break out the febreeze and it should go!.

Main dealer will charge about 8-9 hours plus £200 parts (without the carpet being renewed).

Hope this helps.:approve:

[Eddie]

Suffered a common problem today with the heavy rain. Car full of water on passenger side, even on top of the mats.

Apparantly this is common and something to do with a drain hose near the pollen filter/battery.

Anyone experienced this, is the part easy to get at and change?

What a nice end to the day :(

If it's something that can be checked, I'd advise people to check occasionally as the amount of water in there is unreal. Hope it doesn't damage anything till I can get it seen to.
Ive just dug my ccm out of the passenger footwell and to put it bluntly its goosed it had pins missing in the sockets and the plugs were corroded to hell phoned vag to source replacement plugs and loom and guess what they dont do them they make their own up and i will have to take it down to them to have the job done (open cheque).Does anybody know if you buy a second hand one can you programme it from the key fob or is it a main dealer job?

[greas-E-monkey]

Programming is done using the 5051 vag computer so I am afraid it is a main dealer job. The pins/terminals are available to buy from VW but you would need to know the sizes etc to be able to order them to part number. (they can do this you cannot!). I am afraid they have you by the balls so to speak.:zx11:

[Eddie]

Thanks for the advice ive managed to source a second hand ccm complete with 18" of loom and the two plugs exact same part number and in pristine condition for £89.00 with a 3 mnth guarantee,just wondering if i can still use the car before it gets reprogrammed by vag and if i can what functions will be lost ie central locking etc. Regards Ed

[buyasaab]

Suffered a common problem today with the heavy rain. Car full of water on passenger side, even on top of the mats.

Apparantly this is common and something to do with a drain hose near the pollen filter/battery.

Anyone experienced this, is the part easy to get at and change?

What a nice end to the day :(

If it's something that can be checked, I'd advise people to check occasionally as the amount of water in there is unreal. Hope it doesn't damage anything till I can get it seen to.

yes have exactly the same problem. passsenger rear foot well full of water even though there has been no train. I use newspapers and a VAX to dry it out. off the garage next week so they can check the pollen filter as advised by you.

[adamss24]

Hi, whatever the dealer can do with their diagnostic equipment can be done with a 30 pounds vag-com interface and an old laptop ! See www.openobd.com for more info about how to code CCM modules and www.tdiclub.com for more advice. I am against dealers who charge enormous amounts of money for some of their services but sometimes its easyer to go that way + may be less frustrating but, if you do your research and are handy with the laptop, sky is the limit ! I would advice you get ELSA WIN (do a ebay search !) as its contains reference tables and workshop manuals for every vag car(actually is the program dealer techs use on their computers), not easy to use but you'll get the hang of it ! As for water ingress on the passenger footwels, clean the drains under the battery and polen filter housing. Common guys, get your hands dirty and when you done crack open a few beers and buy a bunch of flowers for the missus to keep her quiet !!! Good luck.

[buyasaab]

Hi, whatever the dealer can do with their diagnostic equipment can be done with a 30 pounds vag-com interface and an old laptop ! See www.openobd.com (http://www.openobd.com) for more info about how to code CCM modules and www.tdiclub.com (http://www.tdiclub.com) for more advice. I am against dealers who charge enormous amounts of money for some of their services but sometimes its easyer to go that way + may be less frustrating but, if you do your research and are handy with the laptop, sky is the limit ! I would advice you get ELSA WIN (do a ebay search !) as its contains reference tables and workshop manuals for every vag car(actually is the program dealer techs use on their computers), not easy to use but you'll get the hang of it ! As for water ingress on the passenger footwels, clean the drains under the battery and polen filter housing. Common guys, get your hands dirty and when you done crack open a few beers and buy a bunch of flowers for the missus to keep her quiet !!! Good luck.




so where is the pollen filter. i have opened the bonnet and cleaned the air filter. is it under the battery or under the mysterious balck box om the left at the back. non technical terms please.

[adamss24]

The polen filter its on the passenger side under the windscreen. You may have to remove the plastic trim to gain access to it ! The drain holes are under the battery and under the ECU on the driver side.

[futurepower4passat]

I suffered a similar problem, water in passenger footwell, after investigating abit, i removed the exhaust heatshield and found the aircon drain stuck closed. Pull it open, and had no more trouble.

[bart1]

hi

"exhaust heatshield and found the aircon drain stuck closed."

Is this quite easy to do without getting under the car? Reason I ask is I had a towbar fitted recently and wondered if they had accidently closed something to trapped/cracked something as leak into passenger seat well has occured since.

Thoughts/feedback very welcome.

Simon

[futurepower4passat]

Unfortunately you have to go under the car to access the heat shield. the air con drain is near the bulk head on the passengers side. it only requires a few smakk bolts to be undone to remove the heat shield, the you should see the drain plug. mine was stuck shut, but after releasing it i had no more trouble with water in footwell.:beerchug:

[bart1]

cheers for the feedback

Have booked in with non main dealer this time in Reading. Mill Road Garage come with recommendation so will see if they are more thorough that main dealer.

This morning problem has gone from damp along edge of front passenger footwet and wetness under passenger seat to a full pond in footwell under glovebox. Main dealer checked pollen filter drain and plenum drain and had glovebox out. Last night things were just lightly wet so i ran aircon at 29C to dry things out.....maybe this correlates with the amount of water i have there and a potential consensor drain issue.

Will have a look myself tomorrow but if not will pack with towels and keep as dry as possible until next monday.

Cheers

Simon

[richardw]

[quote=apole;5869]Suffered a common problem today with the heavy rain. Car full of water on passenger side, even on top of the mats.

Apparantly this is common and something to do with a drain hose near the pollen filter/battery.........

Have just joined the wet footwell brigade with my recently purchased 2001 Passat 130s estate. I'm very grateful for the input on this and a few other sites, I thought I was on my own yesterday when I first discovered the problem....1-2" of water sloshing around the footwells(passenger side worse). Drained most of the water from around the battery with a piece of tube and am now in the process of removing battery, etc to clear the main cause of the problem. Making the filter housing water tight doesn't look too bad but getting the inside dry is going to a nightmare! Car currently sheeted over to prevent further problems til I have time to tackle it

[bart1]

hmmmm its a real pain. Whats the easiest way to remove the carpet from the passenger front and underneath the passenger front seat. Guess I cant take say half out easily.

Would be useful as I could keep and eye on the water and even build a dam to protect ccm!

[buyasaab]

Thanks for the helpful responses. Have taken the Passat back to the dealer - they acknowledge that this is a common fault & they replaced the pollen filter at VAG expense. This was out of 3 year warranty, but was within an 80,000 mile limit. Now checking whether VAG will also cover new carpet + wiring (if necessary).:D

[bart1]

let me know how you get on.

Booked into VW specialist next monday as didnt want to wait 2weeks for main dealer. However I guess maindealer might do it under warrantly as mine is only 6months out. Mind you they didnt find the problem last time and checked pollen filter/plenum drain and had glove compartment out.

Is it possible they could miss the problem while being aware of it?

Water def doesnt seem to be coming in from anywhere else and this problem seems to have occured directly after a warrantly recal to modify pollen filter seal which prevents it happening :-(

[richardw]

Re: VW acknowledging fault
This the first report of an admission of the fault that I have heard of. My vehicle is 5 years old, 55k and I am the second owner, anyone know if I have any recourse to having the problem recitfied by VW because quite frankly it's going to cost me even if I do it myself

[bart1]

Sale of goods act is a good point to start using the clause 'satisfactory quality'.

As I said to the main dealer today....i spent years in bangers while at Uni and don't expect this with a still relatively new car!

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1994/Ukpga_19940035_en_2.htm#mdiv1

http://www.dti.gov.uk/consumers/fact-sheets/page24700.html

Sale of Good Act 1994 is quite effetive. However I would prob take a more subtle approach with the main dealer unless they arn;t very receptive.

Good luck......I got to the point where its not about money but headache and I just want it sorted so opted for VW Specialist to at least investigate.

Roll on my new X5 in April :-/

[richardw]

Tracking back for a moment to what I to believe the root cause of the problem viz.
a) Water ingress via pollen filter housing and
b) Water ingress through the battery housing box(which I note is referred to as the "water box" on p.28 under "tips and maintenance" in the owners manual
Given that the drain holes under the servo and battery are blocked giving rise to an excessive amount of water building up in the box, how does the water penetrate what should be a watertight bulkhead? If the answer is via a pipe penetration which has been inadequately sealed during assembly/manufacture the we no longer have a water box but a colander!

[bart1]

I might look into retro fitting a bildge pump into my passat....seadoo has one and that gets less wet below decks!

[richardw]

Thanks for the humour, I am at a low ebb at the mo, these topics need a bit of a lift now and then

[bart1]

I think I'm going to have to get bolder with mechanics again and have a good go myself. Just been outside to check pollenfilter area's etc and under battery.....bone dry and its been raining.

Also drying out inside but thats just teh surface i guess. I am putting my money on it being aircon related.

[richardw]

My vehicle is wet in both footwells not just passenger side::1zhelp:
I think I'll dig out the speedos

[bart1]

have you done alot of manual trouble shooting yourself?

I ordered a draper automotive socket set from amazon so I could get stuck in. Delivered tomorrow then I'm going to check out whats going on myself.

Can't be more diff than quantum mechanics or programming for win32. Just a bit less accessible than my old volvo 360glt i had when a student.

[richardw]

My last serious mechanicing was shoehorning a Cortina 1500 engine into my 105e and lowering the rear springs, my trouble is I don't recognize anything under the bonnet anymore but I was forced into swapping my Trannie van engine last Xmas when that blew up so it looks like the Passat leak is this year's yuletime gift:alcoholic

[bart1]

think i am going to have to work out how best to get the carpet up. being into electronics and computers there are an array of sensing devices I can use once that is done. Had a go on friday.

The door sill plastic doesn;t want to unclip too easily as comes as whole until between front and rear door. released screw under the glove compartment under A-pillar.....seems to give me more play and was able to see wiring loom about 2" across. Need to really figure out how to get the rest up without tearing it up.

[richardw]

Re: Carpet
Tips on The Autobahn.com-water leak

[bart1]

Thanks for the link......looks liek buckets of people have this problem.

I think I'm going to persue further with my dealer as this really isn't right and as a chartered engineer I think they need to be honest to their customers and acknowledge the fault. Long term this will help them maintain a loyal customer base.

I've had 3 passats as company cars and this experience is seriously putting me off.

I will be drafting a letter to the UK MD of Volkswagen. Feel free to do the same:

paul.willis@volkswagen.co.uk

[Phil155]

I've just sent an email to the link on your post, it will probably come to nothing, but if you don't ask, you don't get!

I would encourage anyone who has the water ingress problem in a Passat to do the same.

At the end of the day it's an inherant design fault that VW are making a hell of a lot of money out of by charging people £££££'s to fit new CCU's, carpets, alarm sounders etc:aargh4: :aargh4: :aargh4:

rant over......:biglaugh:

[bart1]

Just spoken to another local dealer (Windrush Slough) where I bought the car. They have kindy offered to take it in Thursday for through check.

One good method suggested to verify if its an aircon drain hole issue is to check under car after use with aircon on for water! Quite obvious but I didnt check that. Going for a spin shortly to check to see if i get a puddle under car when i get back home.....if I do thats a good thing as it means no aircon condenser drain block :-)

Will update shortly...

[bart1]

Just finished testing and spoken to an engineer.

I drove around for 20-30 mins with aircon on max then when i got home left it running on my drive with a large sheet of plasterboard underneath passenger side will also covered wall and most of engine. Absolutely not drips of anything appeared on the board and there is plenty of moisture to condense in my car at the moment i can assure you :-)

Another obvious thing that I really didnt have enough knowledge to decide one way or the other is the lack of any smell to the water.....its pretty much been there for 1month and no smell of damp etc. the water smells like fresh evian so basically nothing. This further adds evidence that it is the aircon condensor.

Will add additional update after visit to main dealer thurs,

.S

[richardw]

Re: aircon condenser leak
I admire your logical approach and tenacity but I am puzzled as to why there should be a greater degree of water content inside the vehicle when there is excessive precipitation (rain). If the problem is wholly aircon drain related then it would surely be more evident in the summer months when there is greater demand on the condenser. As it is, all the forum discussions seem to revolve around puddles of water forming in the footwells either under heavy rainfall conditions and even carwashes.

[bart1]

agreed....I got a puddle of water after running aircon at 29C for 1hr en route back from reigate in an effort to dry the car. Until that point water had only caused a wetness in carpet. The following morning to that trip it had visibly pooled.

I didnt use the aircon much at all during summer and my journey to work is country roads and i found it quite refreshing to have the windows down.

Thinking outside the box and a truck load of conjecture,.....could it be the lack of use that has caused a potential blockage.

Oh well enough of the theory.....thursday is not far away.

Would I be right in my statement that if it was rainwater it would have a distinct smell to it rather than be like distilled water?

there seems to be a delay effect of 12hrs or so before you notice wetness from either rain or aircon and I'm also aware it could be sloshing around inside before I am aware of it. There does not seem to be a correlation between rain and the wetness parsay......I've had the wetness without any rainfall :-/

[richardw]

Whether or not the time delay is relevant I have no idea but just to sum up because I'm pretty new to the car and the problem, having run into the puddles in both front footwells last week and discovered an excessive amount of water collected under the battery, I now understand that the root cause could lie in one or all of the follwing areas:
1. Water ingress through the bukhead due to blocked drains under battery and brake servo
2. Water ingress through an inadequately sealed fliter housing
3. Moisture droplets from a blocked condenser drain
For my own part I have drained most of the water away from the so called "water box" under the battery with a piece of pipe and I am avoiding rainfall at all costs whilst attempting to dry the carpets out with towels. I intend to remove the battrey and clear the drains asap along with sealing around the filter housing properly. Drying out the interior properly is going to be nightmare from time perspective but I'm going to a get a space heater blasting through there at the weekend once I found how to pull the carpets up.
Very grateful for all the input here, Richard
My own vehicle has "climatronic" whih I assume is just a variation on aircon with more sophisticated controls, still finding out about the car having only had it 3 weeks!

[bart1]

Good luck Richard. Let me know how you get on.

Will let you know what VW find at my original dealer i bought the car....know the sales, showroom and service manager so hopefully they will find something as they are likely to put more time in.

Carpets will be a right **** ache......going to follow that autobahn guide but not sure i want to remove the front passenger seat. Will see what dealer says as they might sort all that out for me.

Cheers

Simon

ps yeah climatronic is basicially aircon

[richardw]

I have just sent an e-mail to paul.willis@volkswagen.co.uk outlining my specific problem with a copy of my last post summing up what I believe to be the problem. Do I wait with baited breath or get the spanners out?

[bart1]

do it :-)

I spent 120quid yesterday on a draper socket set in anticipation of getting my hands dirty. Don't mind doing ancillary work like this a cooling system plus mechanics but I stop at head gasket and other workshop related stuff.

Wait until the weekend maybe but its a gamble as anytime the CCM/CCU and associated units could fail. My garage said stuff a load of towels under passanger seat and in front passenger footwell and change them regularly.......buying some time!

[richardw]

Agreed, meanwhile more towels. private message sent

[SCBowden]

Hello All,

In reply of your New Water Feature Post.

Just before purchasing my 2003 TDI Passat I did a trawl of the Internet to see what Info I could find out about the car and particular model/age.

I came across the Info about the Pollen Filter leaking/Blocked Drain holes. I found the required info and once I had purchased the Passat I proceeded to remove the trim around the front to gain acccess to the Drian Holes to check them. THey were clean and free from dirt.

However I did find a lot of gunk around the base of the pollen filter so I proceeded to remove the pollen filter and clean the gunk out. I applied some silicone sealer around the base of the Pollen Filter and bolted it back down. Having looked at the car I thought what about the other side ??

Upon looking at the otherside there was a big black box which I assume houses the ECU (Can Anbody clarify this for me). Upon opening the black box I found a few droppets of water inside and alot of gunk around the base of the box causing the water to stay around the base of the box.

Would anybody like to confirm that it might also be worth Sealing the base of the Black box as well ??? or just leave it as it is ???

I would appreciate any feedback on this.

Thanks,

Steve

[JoGibson]

Hope I'm not too late to stick my oar in here.

Have any of you guys with the water problems got a sunroof?

We had an Audi A4 that used to turn into a swimming pool in the back - even soaked the rear seat. We checked the drain holes behind the servo and under that battery - they were blocked but clearing them didn't solve the problem.

Turned out that the rear sunroof drains were blocked (and possibly ruptured ?) and water was pouring into the pillars behind the rear passenger seats - if you eased the plastic cover away from the pillar you could see water dribbling. The rear drains are difficult to get at (the front drains are easy - you can see them in the corners of the sunroof housing and clear them by poking speedo cable through followed a good blast of air from a compressor) - we ended up getting a local garage to try and sort them out (they failed - we learned to park on a steep hill to allow any water to drain forwards).

Had to remove the rear seats and lift the carpets to dry everything out - we used a portable ceramic heater sat on an upturned roasting tin to prevent scorching anything (they get very hot) with a dehumidifier going to remove the saturated air. It did work for drying out the interior, along with a good dose of Febreeze to get rid of any lingering smells.

Hope this helps.

Jo

[richardw]

no sunroof on mine but thanks for the input

[bart1]

Hi Jo

I was talkign with a mate with the same issue on a golf. Turned out the small rubber pipe that channels down the pillar from the sunroof was cracked and needed replacement.

Hope that helps. How about a bbq in the car? that gets quite hot and while your board you can make a bacon sarnie!

/s

PS tomorrow now till mine gets a going over by VW.

[JoGibson]

Blocked or leaky sunroof drains seem to be a real issue with all the VWAG models - even worse if you have a Passat because I've heard of water collecting in the front footwell around where the ECU is located and frying it. Not to mention the hassle of sorting out stinking carpets.

Mybe the BBQ would be a good idea - cook up some sausages and dry the car out at the same time?

[bart1]

:-(....VW have checked the car.......by the time i got it too them this morning all the carpets were dry and no trace of water :-(

They are keeping it overnight to take on extended journey to see if will repeat. Most frustrating as it looks silly.

Not quite sure how its drying out in time.

If it turns out they cannot resolve it i intend to pull the front carpet up and line the area with litmus paper which will go green (water should be slightly alkaline) when in contact. hopefully this will leave evidence of entry and trace route of flow even if it dries before seen! :aargh4:

[bart1]

VW Windrush Slough spent most of the day troubleshooting with alot of hose tests to find the problem. By lunchtime the usual area's of water ingress had been ruled out.

They had offered to keep the car overnight and have an engineer take it out for an extended run as were unable to find issue but persistance paid off this afternoon!

PROBLEM FOUND! Water ingress via passenger side window apparantly. Winding mechanism faulty so although the glass looks wound up a small gap was left at the top. Net effect was water running down inside the door between the carpet stay and under the floor.

Amazing as I read on the forum the other day a guy who worked as a crash repairers detailing how many he cars he finds that have leaks are due to door window problem of some sorts and take hours to diagnose. I was about to do a hose test but was so focused on aircon drain being the issue i discounted it :-/

:beerchug: to Windrush Sluff :biglaugh:

[richardw]

Simon, got mine virtually dried out (on the surface at least) til last night when overnight rain has soaked a couple of towels left in strategic place. My car is be checked by VW tomorrow. Message in forum inbox

[richardw]

Simon, glad you have found the problem. Was the water ingress restricted to the drivers side only? I have more water evident on passenger side and I am assuming that syphoning all the water out of the battery area at the weekend had a temporary remedial effect. Wife returning in car at 6pm, will check under bonnet again

[bart1]

Hi Richard, yes all localised to passenger side. Sounds like if you have standing water under battery should be a case of flenum valve blockage. Out with the pipe cleaners!

I'll wait 2-3weeks before i finally roll out the solved hat.

:beerchug:

[richardw]

Did VW Slough make any comment about the seal round the pollen filter or the drains under battery/brake servo? Has your vehicle been recalled to improve the sealing around the pollen filter housing? If not I guess like mine it just an accident waiting to happen.
I thought your car was leaking on passenger side(previous posts) but you now say that the window sealing issue is on the driver's side. Very confused, how does water from the drivers side window end up in the passenger footwell?

[bart1]

edited comment as type ref driver side comment....to confirm the window seal issue was passenger side. Yeah the recal on pollen filter seal was done by VW Ridgeway in september. Thats why I kinda had ruled that one out - they checked the plenum drain too hence my blinkered approach at aircon drain :-) Hope that clarifies things. In your case I suspect the pollen filter seal def need doing as water is leaking in once the 'water catch' under the battery overflows. Good luck!

[richardw]

Thanks, all clear. Just rechecked mine, there is water collecting again under batttery. Taking it in at 8am tomorrow and since it is by invitation, my wallet stays in my pocket! I'm def not paying a bean

[bart1]

def worth it :-).....I will have to part with best part of 400quid but i could have cost a load more with CCM etc Keep me posted.

[richardw]

Thanks,will report tomorrow

[richardw]

Problem seems to be solved with new seal round pollen filter and drains cleared under battery/servo

[bart1]

Mine is dry too.... New windows winder which should ensure ns front passenger window stays firmly closed. An carpet bone dry too!

Happy days :-)

/S

[bart1]

Just a quick update to say no more water ingress. So I think its safe to conclude after 1 week that all is sound.

All the best

/S

[richardw]

Simon, glad your car's now dry - you can sell your socket set on e bay.
Private message sent, richard

[bart1]

I didnt think i'd be back so soon :-(

All dry in the front but not discovered water in the boot of my saloon passat '02.

Location is in a small well right by 12v socket on drivers side at rear of boot.

Going to have a good look around rear light cluster seal as boot seal seems sound.

Any idea's or pointers would be welcome :-)

/Simon:aargh4:

[ansumstan]

Hi I had the same problem earlier this year, i unblocked the drainage holes which solved the problem of water getting in and dried all the carpets out with a hairdryer etc. However a short time later I started experiencing problems with the alarm going off for no reason sometimes even while driving, then the alarm refused to work at all, the electric windows failed and the remote central locking plus all interior lights. Eventually I managed to pull up enough of the passenger carpet to reveal the convenience control unit and although this was dry, upon inspection I found the wiring loom coming out of it had factory fitted conections that were just covered in electrical tape which had perished due to the water ingress. I fixed these using more adequte connectors and lo and behold everything now works perfectly. I just thought you should know in case you experience similiar problems
Dan

[richardw]

Dan. thanks for your input. As you say the problem doesn't necessarily end with superficailly drying out the carpets. I have written to VW on the subject

[richardw]

Simon , I have sent a copy letter to VW to you.
Sorry to hear that your problems are ongoing. Mine is an estate so I can't advise you.
My car is drying out on top but mists up every night when parked, soon clears with blower/heater but it indicates that there is a lot of moisture inside still despite VW clearing drains and renewing filter seal, good luck
Richard

[gresty]

Thanks to all of you with this problem, I discovered that my baby had the same. After a good service which was needed, I decided it would be a good idea to give the whole engine bay and underneath a steam clean off. After she had a bath i noticed a paddling pool covering the base off the battery and sure enough after i removed the floating battery and stuck my pinkies into the drain bungs they were blocked solid. Got dynorods out and cleared the buggers out. Sound as a pound now.

Quick joke

What do you call a camel with 4 humps?

A saudi quattro!!!!!:biglaugh:

[richard winter]

it is sad to hear how many of us are having this problem i originaly had a poorly fitted scuttle so the water was getting in through the pollen filter .i removed the housing and sealed it down and dried the car out using dehumidifier all seemed good after reteching the ccu the keyfobs. BUT i have recently cheked under the carpet and it is damp in the foam i read that the foam seals may be a problem can someone enlighten me with this. i will be removing the glove box later to look for some sort of indication of water ingress.the carpet does not apear wet on top only the foam so at the moment i am thinking it is still aircon or filter housing but i will check the door seal and window winder, this has been going on for some time has anyone had any sucsess with VAG an waranty repairs does the md of vw also cover audi or is there another contact for the audi side of things
amy advice from you experiences greatfully recieved

[lennymfo]

Ive just bought a 99 1.9TDi SE 110 and have slight water ingress in the passenger rear nearside. The other problem I have is that when I started the car this morning - it didnt start. The battery wasnt flat but the electronic indicators for glow plug etc seem to be faded. The courtesy light was on. When I opened the bonnet to check the battery (which is on charge) the battery seems to be soaked along with a load of other equipment that runs along the top at the rear of the engine. Would I be right in thinking that if some kind of rubber seal was applied to the rear of the bonnet, this may stop the the water ingress. If so, would anyone have any ideas?

Cheers

Lenny

[richardw]

Still trying to dry out the inside after vw main agent supposedly rectified the water ingress. Car mists up everynight and with this wet weather there seems no chance of getting it totally dry inside although nothing actually feels damp. I now have a rear nearside indicator not working and after much fiddling and fumbling to replace the bulb in the dark with the aid of a torch, I have just discovered there is nothing wrong with the bulb. Replaced it anyway but still not working. I also have a front offside headlamp lens all misted up!
This 2001 130sport tdi estate that I thought I'd bought for a bargain 3 months ago is proving to be a pain in the ****. The words pig and poke spring to mind

[norrie rugger head]

hi all

does this happen to all passats?
i have recently purchased a 01 passat and getting condensation on the passanger side mat

[richardw]

Design fault with water drainage, therefore inherent to all Passats

[norrie rugger head]

it's starting to freak me out.
there is no water anywhere except on the passangers floor mat. nothing on carpet or the foot well

[richardw]

Lots of threads on water ingress on this site

[richard winter]

check the windscreen lower tom that the wippers fit through if that is not fitted properly it funnels the water straght into the pollen filter and onto your mats best of luck

[Ray]

My 5-year old Passat has suffered the water ingress problem for a second time!
The first time was due to the pollen filter, last September (before I discovered this forum) and my VW dealer charged me nearly £1k for 12 hours labour to take the carpets completely out and dry them. Later I got £250 back from VW after my complaint.

This time my drainage holes are blocked. And the ECU has suffered.
But first I want to lift the carpet and dry it myself.

Any hints on removing the carpet?

[richard winter]

to take them out is a big job but i found if you remove the plastic from around the passenger doorand wedge the carpet up it will dry out quite well a garden leaf blower worked quite well as an air mover are you aware that you can teach the central locking yourself
best of luck
Richard