A4 2.0 Se mutlitronic problem

[maxell]

Well, after having the car back less than a week (oil pump needing replaced costing £800), it seems i have another problem :(

Over the past few weeks i had noticed the gear changes getting progressively worse, as if they are 'slipping' and pretty notchy.

Today, they got worse, with the car having the occasional shudder when at a stand still.

I had a quick search but couldn't find anything that directly diagnosed my problem.

Ps, its a 2002 with 46k miles.

[a8 tech]

input shaft causes this but can also be the clutch pack sticking.Its not looking good as i would have advised new gearbox,it may have been cheaper in the long run

[maxell]

Its not looking good as i would have advised new gearbox

This worry's me! :(

[a8 tech]

who repaired the box,and there must be at least a 12 month parts and labour warranty on the repair.

[maxell]

The box was never in need of repair, when it was in the garage, this was for a new oil pump, nothing to do with the gearbox.

Only today has it occurred to me that there is a problem with the gearbox.

[a8 tech]

I see,i would book in at audi and see what they say.

[maxell]

Going into the audi garage first thing tomorow,

Dreading the outcome of this one.

[FEMI AJANA]

Hello I've got the exact same problem !!

I drive a 2003 1.8T multitronic Cab. I am guessing its the known Audi multitronic gearbox problem... the fix involves changing the 6 clutch piece to a 7 cluch piece (Or so I'm told). The funny thing is my gearbox was fixed under warranty at 36k, why they didnt applyy the fix then I do not know.

Anyway i'm going to battle it out with them & see where it gets me. There are some other posts on this forum re ths problem with some solutions and I believe a company that specialises in this fault who charge 50% of the price of the main dealer.

Good luck

[max942x]

Hello

It may be an idea to read the 2 threads that I have started "automatic gearbox problem" and "7-plate clutch conversion, didn't work...".

Max

[FEMI AJANA]

This multitronic issue is a huge problem, there are at least 12 separate threads on this site about this problem. This probably won't go down too well on a site "dedicated to the VAG Marque" but I think this problem should be publicised !!
We should all come together and let Watch dog know what is going on ..
Apparently Audi were on Watch dog earlier this year re a problem with the TT. Would have thought that they would have learnt their lesson by now :confused:.

[max942x]

Go for it!!

This is an ongoing problem that is not going to go away - I purposely bought my A4 for the quality/reliability/customer service that Audi stands for.

I have made more trips/phone calls/emails regarding this car in the last 5 months than I have with any other car in 5 1/2 years.

The problem with the gearbox is dangerous.

Max

[maxell]

Okay, got the car back.

Transmission oil was changed, which has now cured the problem.

Has anyone else been in the same situation, has the problem came back, and how soon did it come back?

[maxell]

Another thing i have considered, if i was to go with a warrenty from audi or another company such as warrenty direct, and the problems everyone else has been expriencing return, will they be covered?

[max942x]

Hello,

As suggested earlier on in this thread - go and read the 2 that I have put on ("automatic gearbox problem " and "7-plate clutch conversion...didn't work...").

My car has not yet gone back to Audi (next Tues) so I don't know why the conversion (that is 100% guaranteed to work) hasn't worked. I am going with the probability that only the gearbox oil has been changed (I don't think the conversion was done). The car was fine for 500 miles (3 weeks).

Max

[The Glove]

Hi,

As you will see from Max's threads I have the same problem as you and more. My gearbox needs replacing - the whole thing! Filings where found in the oil but not sure where they came from or why this occurred?

[maxell]

Okay, i have read the other threads.

From what iv read, i have taken that, unless you have done a transmission oil change at 40k the audi warranty is pretty much invalid.

Is this the case for other warranty's, i.e warranty direct.

If i was to buy a warranty from warranty wise (audi one expired and previous owner did not extend) would i be covered for any further gearbox problems (gearbox oil change not recorded in service book but i had it done at 46k miles (last week))

Edit: Phoned the audi garage which done the 38k mile service, the guy on the phone says he reckons the transmission oil was changed at this service, though he didn't seem all too sure. I have an invoice for this service and it says : Variable servicing long life oil £45.00, does this mean anything to anyone?

The reason i am doubting the guy, is that in my service book, for that service, the additional work box for the 40,000 mile service box was ticked no, suggesting that the multitronic oil had not been changed.

[John-SE16]

Hello folks

I'm having a problem with my 2003/03 A4 Avant 2.0 SE Multitronic 33,500 miles - but not entirely similar, it seems.

My problem is that reverse gear sometimes does not engage ... well, it sometimes seems to engage slightly, giving only weak power (putting my foot down does nothing other than rev the engine: the car doesn't move faster than a very gentle reverse (on the flat - I've not tried it on a hill, and I don't want to!)). It has also once failed to engage reverse at all. Turning off the engine and restarting seemed to reset it to normal behaviour.

The reversed 'gear selector' lights came on just once, but too many starts before getting it to Audi Dulwich last week meant that they could not diagnose any problem. They changed the gearbox oil anyway [£177 - ouch !].

But the intermittant 'power loss' problem remained. When the fault indicator recurred this week, I got it back to them straight away. They have been puzzled for a couple of days, but called me today to advise that the problem seems to be the electronic control module for the multitronic box, and would cost £1,200-ish to replace !! Audi Germany has rejected any liability, and Dulwich is now awaiting feedback from Audi UK.

As others have done, I bought my A4 for Audi's reputed/promoted quality design and reliability, but that's apparently not what I've got.

As I've just joined the forum, does anyone know of any history on this issue ? I've read a few threads, and can't see anything quite similar to my particular problem.

Any thoughts /advice, please ? On the problem, and/or on dealing with Audi.

Thanks.

John

[John-SE16]

Update

The problem has been diagnosed as a faulty gearbox control unit, and it has been replaced by Audi - costing me just £50, payment of which was a condition in getting 2-years warranty cover on the work.

It seems to be behaving normally now, and there has been no recurrence of the reverse gear problem, though the box seems a bit 'slippery' ... needing more revs than usual to negotiate the car park ramp just after starting up. [But, having had an A3 quattro (manual) for a week - which was fun, maybe it's my memory that's fuzzy, not the gearbox ! ]

Thanks to the folks at Audi Dulwich, Audi UK, and some reassuring advice from the guys at Indie Tech in Milton Keynes.

John

[The Glove]

Hi John,

Glad its fixed, Got mine back last week with new gearbox, done a few hundred miles in it now and all seems fine so far... Fingers crossed

[nigel]

John

How old was your Audi? I have the same problem, however it is one month outside of warranty and I am being quoted about £1000 to change the ECU. If Audi have contributed and your car is outside of warranty, I would like to try and get the same.

Thanks

[The Glove]

John

How old was your Audi? I have the same problem, however it is one month outside of warranty and I am being quoted about £1000 to change the ECU. If Audi have contributed and your car is outside of warranty, I would like to try and get the same.

Thanks

Hi Nigel,

Mine is a 2004 car, approx 6 mths out of warranty and between audi uk and germany they contributed 80% to a new gear box. My car only had 27k on it when fault occurred, I'm told by dealer this was a factor in % contribution.

Hope this helps.

[nigel]

Thanks, this could be very helpful.

[max942x]

Having had the same problems Audi paid 50% (without me even requesting this) of a 7-plate-clutch, when that didn't completely cure the problem it went back and Audi paid 90 % of the cost for a valve body (which they should really have done in the first place).

The car was 3 years and 9 months old when first taken in and had 35000 miles on it. It had not been purchased from Audi, when bought two months earlier.

So.....completely out of warranty and not really their problem.

Max

[lonky]

warrenty direct specialise in not paying out ! if you break any clause right down to 1 mile or 1 day over on a service then they just walk away.

Also they will not pay main dealer rates, so you have to go to independant of their choice.

Finally if the item is not covered they will not replace it.

i.e. they will cover say the window switch but not the mechanism.

I have even had them want to reuse paper gaskets