DeeWS
16-03-2023, 06:43 PM
I have two cars – an Audi A6 C6 2005 V6 3.2L and a Q7 2007 V8 4.2L.
Quite some time ago, my mechanic had replaced the battery management module in the Q7 with an additional one that I had lying around for the A6. Is the A6 module compatible for the Q7. The part number for the A6 is 4F0 915 181A/0 199 000 013 while the one originally in the Q7 was 4L0 915 181/0 199 000 017.
I am asking the question about compatibility because lately I am having a problem in the Q7. Whenever I start the Q7 engine, the battery management module gets the DTCs 02254 – “Interface to Generator 004 - No Signal/Communication” and 02479 – “Partial Consumer Shut-Off Active 000”.
Previously in the autumn of 2022, the Q7 had stopped twice while driving. As I could not immediately restart the car, while waiting, I had measured the battery voltage and found it to be around 11.2 volts. The DTCs would appear then. I had to wait for the voltage to rise above 12.5 volts before the car would start. I assumed therefore the battery was weak. I do not want to replace until I am sure that its not the battery management module nor the alternator. What causes this temporary loss of interface to the generator?
In attempting to analyze the reason for the DTCs, I used VCDS Advanced Measuring Values for Battery Regulation 61 and noticed that whenever Generator Interface was Not OK then the Generator Voltage was 14.5 volts and when the Generator Voltage would rise higher that 14.5 volts e.g. 14.7 or 15.0, the Generator Interface became OK. Additionally, I tried to find out from Ross Tech Forums for VCDS where the Generator Voltages (Group 1 and Group 10) are measured to understand why both are not the same. No success from there. Obviously, they are measured at differed points for their values to be different.
Key Position
Engine Condition
Time Elapsed Marker
Group 1 Generator Voltage (specified) in Volts
Group 1 Battery Voltage (actual) in Volts
Group 1 Load Response Time in seconds
Group 10 Generator Voltage (specified)
Group 10 Dynamic Field Signal %
Group 10 Generator Interface
OK/Not OK
Group 10 Generator OK/Not OK
Accessory
Off
0
12.00
12.35 to 12.40
3
0.00
0
OK
OK
Start
Cranking
43
12.00
10.80
6
0.00
0
OK
OK
Start
Cranking
44
12.00
12.20
6
0.00
0
Not OK
OK
On
Running
44.96 to 2618
14.50 (constant)
Varies between 13.35 to 13.45
3
0.00
0
Not OK
OK
On
Running
2618.93 to 2645.64
15.00 (constant)
Varies between 13.95 to 14.10
3
15.00
51.6
OK
OK
On
Running
2646.51 to 2744.87
14.50 (constant)
14.10 falling to 13.35
3
15.00
41.9
Not OK
OK
On
Running
2745.83
14.70
13.45
3
14.30
41.9
OK
OK
On
Running
2746.78
15.00
14.00
3
15.00
41.9
OK
OK
On
Running
2747.84 to >> 3019
15.00 (constant)
Varies between 14.00 to 14.10
3
15.00
Varies between 41.9 to 48.4
OK
OK
Off
Stopped car
Quite some time ago, my mechanic had replaced the battery management module in the Q7 with an additional one that I had lying around for the A6. Is the A6 module compatible for the Q7. The part number for the A6 is 4F0 915 181A/0 199 000 013 while the one originally in the Q7 was 4L0 915 181/0 199 000 017.
I am asking the question about compatibility because lately I am having a problem in the Q7. Whenever I start the Q7 engine, the battery management module gets the DTCs 02254 – “Interface to Generator 004 - No Signal/Communication” and 02479 – “Partial Consumer Shut-Off Active 000”.
Previously in the autumn of 2022, the Q7 had stopped twice while driving. As I could not immediately restart the car, while waiting, I had measured the battery voltage and found it to be around 11.2 volts. The DTCs would appear then. I had to wait for the voltage to rise above 12.5 volts before the car would start. I assumed therefore the battery was weak. I do not want to replace until I am sure that its not the battery management module nor the alternator. What causes this temporary loss of interface to the generator?
In attempting to analyze the reason for the DTCs, I used VCDS Advanced Measuring Values for Battery Regulation 61 and noticed that whenever Generator Interface was Not OK then the Generator Voltage was 14.5 volts and when the Generator Voltage would rise higher that 14.5 volts e.g. 14.7 or 15.0, the Generator Interface became OK. Additionally, I tried to find out from Ross Tech Forums for VCDS where the Generator Voltages (Group 1 and Group 10) are measured to understand why both are not the same. No success from there. Obviously, they are measured at differed points for their values to be different.
Key Position
Engine Condition
Time Elapsed Marker
Group 1 Generator Voltage (specified) in Volts
Group 1 Battery Voltage (actual) in Volts
Group 1 Load Response Time in seconds
Group 10 Generator Voltage (specified)
Group 10 Dynamic Field Signal %
Group 10 Generator Interface
OK/Not OK
Group 10 Generator OK/Not OK
Accessory
Off
0
12.00
12.35 to 12.40
3
0.00
0
OK
OK
Start
Cranking
43
12.00
10.80
6
0.00
0
OK
OK
Start
Cranking
44
12.00
12.20
6
0.00
0
Not OK
OK
On
Running
44.96 to 2618
14.50 (constant)
Varies between 13.35 to 13.45
3
0.00
0
Not OK
OK
On
Running
2618.93 to 2645.64
15.00 (constant)
Varies between 13.95 to 14.10
3
15.00
51.6
OK
OK
On
Running
2646.51 to 2744.87
14.50 (constant)
14.10 falling to 13.35
3
15.00
41.9
Not OK
OK
On
Running
2745.83
14.70
13.45
3
14.30
41.9
OK
OK
On
Running
2746.78
15.00
14.00
3
15.00
41.9
OK
OK
On
Running
2747.84 to >> 3019
15.00 (constant)
Varies between 14.00 to 14.10
3
15.00
Varies between 41.9 to 48.4
OK
OK
Off
Stopped car