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jonathanfenton
06-10-2021, 10:04 PM
Hello, bit of a long one sorry,

friends car, she was driving it and red key came up on dash with "ignition failure" popping up on the intruments.

When she got home she couldn't turn it off, the key got released but the engine kept running.

Central locking dead, ignition would pop MMI screen up, nothing more.

If you clear all the faults it eventually comes to life after a long wait.

Took it for a drive and it came up with the red key and the igition failure warning, turned around and the intruments actually went through a hard reset, as i pulled in the driveway they actually went completly off. I parked up and low and behold it wouldnt switch off, i left it idling and eventually after 20 mins it switched its self off.

I've had a look and i found that the battery protection solonoid thing in the boot had failed in the open position so the battery wasn't charging, so i got a replacement and now once you've cleared all the faults it charges the battery again and lets you start it.

I had my laptop hooked up at the time of the test drive and this is what i got from it:


Wednesday,06,October,2021,16:14:48:30277
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20210903 DS330.0
Ross-Tech: Home (http://www.Ross-Tech.com)


VIN: WAUZZZ4E54N026221 License Plate: Y11RYK
Mileage: 147170km-91447mi Repair Order:


Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 1E 25 34 36 37 38 42
46 47 4F 52 53 56 57 61 62 67 72 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4E54N026221 Mileage: 147170km-91447miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 059-907-401-ASB.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 401 H HW: 4E0 907 401 B
Component: 3.0L V6TDI G000AG 0030
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: AUX3Z0D4140890
Coding: 0011773
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 2045F239F3B5A68961-8074
VINID: 9D196AAAA1151447800860820437F97796

1 Fault Found:
18107 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1699 - 001 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel Electronics - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 756 /min
Torque: 42.9 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 13.91 V
Bin. Bits: 00001111
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Torque: 249.6 Nm

Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 F HW: 09L 927 156
Component: AG6 09L 3.0lTDI RdW 0050
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: 0019726
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 254BE32DEC9743A112-8070

1 Fault Found:
18275 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1867 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Wheel (J527) - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:43:45

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 736 /min
RPM: 704 /min
RPM: 0 /min
(no units): 30.0
(no units): 22.0
Temperature: 30.0°C
T.B. Angle: 0.0°


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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: None
VCID: 55AB93EDBC77132142-FFFE


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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory BFS H08 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 3670112
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 234FFD35E2A3BD917C-8076

1 Fault Found:
00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147172 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.11.17
Time: 00:44:23


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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4E0-910-7xx-07.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 729 H HW: 4E0 035 729 A
Component: Interfacebox H43 0770
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 300DG047535373
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2D5B1B0DB4677BE1DA-8078

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 609 A
Component: Bedienteil MMI H42 0020

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 322EQ047506857

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 7407.05.040000000000010055ÿ

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010055ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 A HW: 4E0 820 043 A
Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT 016 0300
Revision: 00000025 Serial number: 00000000043421
Coding: 1067009
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1B3FC5D5DAD38551B4-804E

5 Faults Found:
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 197
Mileage: 146326 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.05.09
Time: 17:57:25

01857 - Air Outlet Sensor; Middle Left (G347)
007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100111
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 21
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 146857 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.08.15
Time: 03:00:21

02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 147153 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.09.12
Time: 03:24:06

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00011111

00455 - Control Module for Access and Start Control; Comfort CAN (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 236
Mileage: 147173 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.09.12
Time: 05:38:52

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00011000

00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147173 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.09.12
Time: 05:39:05

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00011000


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4E0-910-279.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 J HW: 4E0 907 279 J
Component: ILM Fahrer H12 0190
Coding: 0100001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2F670105BE6B09F1E8-807A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E2 910 113 B
Component: Wischer WWS D3 H50 0420
Coding: 00000036
Shop #: WSC 02313

4 Faults Found:
02510 - Steering Column Adjustment
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 197
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 01:08:26

01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:05:32

00455 - Control Module for Access and Start Control; Comfort CAN (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:23

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:28


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 655 HW: 4E0 959 655 G
Component: Airbag 8.4E+ H10 0940
Coding: 0431707
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 63CFBD35A223FD913C-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 549 HW: 4E0 953 549
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H13 0040
Coding: 0112141
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 65CBA32DAC1783A1D2-8030

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H04 0080

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 900 HW: 4E0 920 950 A
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H44 0090
Revision: D17 Serial number: AUDID3D4001419
Coding: 0000403
Shop #: WSC 11111 111 11111
VCID: 5CBD86C99F5DC2697D-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: 4E0-910-105.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 105 HW: 4E0 815 069 D
Component: Heizgeraet H06 0300
Revision: 0000000G Serial number: 00000009001484
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 59B39FDD906F374166-800C

5 Faults Found:
02072 - Control Module for Energy Management (J644)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
33477 - Terminal Status
Unknown - 004 - - Intermittent
33621 - Gateway
Unknown - 004 - - Intermittent
33629 - Unknown Error Code
Unknown - 004 - - Intermittent
33623 - Unknown Error Code
Unknown - 004 - - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 4E0-910-468.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 HW: 4E0 907 468 A
Component: Gateway H07 0070
Revision: 07 Serial number: 1600304403094C
Coding: FCFE5BDE2B7504
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 65CBA32DAC1783A1D2-8030

1 Fault Found:
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101110
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 10
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:18


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Address 1E: Media Player 2 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 C HW: 4E0 035 111
Component: CD-Changer H43 0340
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ5ZBD4001593
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1933DFDDD0EFF741A6-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131
Component: FBS AUDID3 H03 0140
Revision: 01403903 Serial number: AUX3Z0D4140890
Coding: 0264192
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 58B59AD9EB652E4959-800C

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX ELV XXXX

3 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:40:02

01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:22

00166 - Access/Start Authorization Switch (E415)
006 - Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100110
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 197
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:40:02


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Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4E0-910-553.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 E HW: 4E0 907 553 E
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H05 4290
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 254BE32DEC9743A112-8070

4 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:35:48

00139 - Left Front Body Acceleration Sensor (G341)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 197
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:35:48

00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:20

00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:20


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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory FS H08 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 3670114
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 234FFD35E2A3BD917C-8076

1 Fault Found:
00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147172 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.11.17
Time: 00:44:23


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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 887 D HW: 4E0 919 887 C
Component: MNS ECE H43 0550
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 353DN047516661
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2E591C01B96100F9E3-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 38: Roof Electronics Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A HW: 4E0 907 135 A
Component: Dachknoten D3 H01 0090
Serial number: 00000410500136
Coding: 0035968
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1D3BCBCDC4C78B614A-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 HW: 4E2 959 802
Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM007 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 5EB98CC18941D07913-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A HW: 4E0 907 289
Component: Komfortgeraet H04 0040
Revision: 00400004 Serial number: W040405030345
Coding: 0004345
Shop #: WSC 00409 210 61188
VCID: 2757E925969B51B120-8072

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 853
Component: Heckdeckel H06 0060

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor H03 0020

5 Faults Found:
00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 15
Reset counter: 197
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 01:02:37

01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 36
Reset counter: 197
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0

02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:28

00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:28

01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147175 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:31


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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 G HW: 4E0 035 223 A
Component: DSP-Amp.-High H13 0360
Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000002714
Coding: 0000023
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2143F73DF8BFAF816E-8074

1 Fault Found:
00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:25


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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A HW: 4E0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H09 0040
Revision: Serial number: 00000000039742
Coding: 0010001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1E39CCC1C9C1907953-804A

3 Faults Found:
00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147172 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:00

01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147172 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:00

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147172 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:00


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 HW: 4E2 959 801
Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM007 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 5EB98CC18941D07913-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 A HW: 4E0 907 801
Component: EPB AV1C1010 H01 1010
Revision: AV1C1010
Coding: 0000221
Shop #: WSC 00409 210 70349
VCID: 1D3BCBCDC4C78B614A-8048

4 Faults Found:
02596 - Rear Brake Pads Worn
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 197
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 01:02:19

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 9.94 V
Count: 61

00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:27

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.63 V
Count: 237

00576 - Terminal 15
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 197
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:23

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.63 V
Count: 41

00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:23

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.63 V
Count: 247


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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 C HW: 4E0 035 541 B
Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H41 0290
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 304DP047587470
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2045F239F3B5A68961-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: 4E0-910-146.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 146 C HW: 4E0 919 146
Component: TV analog TUNER H12 0210
Revision: 00000022 Serial number: 00000000002483
Coding: 0001003
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2143F73DF8BFAF816E-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 B HW: 4E0 915 181
Component: ENERGIEMANAGER H02 0240
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000002359316
Shop #: WSC 00409 210 02606
VCID: 1F47F1C5CECB997158-804A

Component: von
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

1 Fault Found:
00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:23


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 HW: 4E0 959 801 A
Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM007 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 5DBB8BCD8447CB610A-8008

5 Faults Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:14:56

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:14:56

01308 - Control Module for Roof Electronics (J528)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:14:56

00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:05:02

01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 197
Mileage: 147168 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:46


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Address 67: Voice Control Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 753 G HW: 4E0 035 753
Component: SDS 3502 UK H43 0380
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000403010084
Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
VCID: 2953EF1D808F67C136-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 HW: 4E0 959 802 A
Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM007 0110
Coding: 0028462
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 5DBB8BCD8447CB610A-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 A HW: 4E0 919 283 B
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020
Revision: --.--.-- Serial number: 08730410704552
Coding: 0001008
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2143F73DF8BFAF816E-8074

1 Fault Found:
00456 - Control Module for Access and Start Control (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Mileage: 147174 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:44:23


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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 4E0-910-333.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 333 D HW: 4E0 862 333 B
Component: TELEFONMODUL EU 0650
Revision: 00000005 Serial number: T2AUD30911H6BT
Coding: 0000004
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2045F239F3B5A68961-8074

No fault code found.

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I have read that it could be the module in the steering collumn, apparently it has it has some additional relays/switches which fail over time and cause the symptoms i am seeing, like as i said, if i charge the battery back to full and reset all the codes, sometimes using key in the drivers door lock and locking and unlocking it several tiems it will come back to life as if nothing is wrong, a fault scan shows nothing with immolbilser/entry auth etc, the obvious aircon and radiator fan issues remain.

Before i start ripping the steering collumn out, does this ring any bells with anyone?

Crasher
07-10-2021, 12:55 PM
A couple of points, it looks like the HVAC and Connivence units are out of another car and not matched. All those comms errors suggest water Ingres to the CAN BUS unit. Personally if I was doing that I would clear all the codes and then deal with whatever comes back by using ODIS in guided fault finding, it would save a lot of time.

jonathanfenton
07-10-2021, 01:20 PM
The passenger footwell is wet but not sure where the canbus unit is located? Could well be water, I haven’t noticed the steering wheel lock doing anything which is what lead me to learning about this secure unit on the end of the steering collum which controls terminal 15 and the rest of the ignition stuff. It has so much electrical stuff that just hammers the battery so I’m constantly fighting low voltage and what ever the actual fault is even with my trickle charger on.

So yeah where’s the canbus box, can have a look at that before I take steering column out.

jonathanfenton
07-10-2021, 01:35 PM
The passenger footwell is wet but not sure where the canbus unit is located? Could well be water, I haven’t noticed the steering wheel lock doing anything which is what lead me to learning about this secure unit on the end of the steering collum which controls terminal 15 and the rest of the ignition stuff. It has so much electrical stuff that just hammers the battery so I’m constantly fighting low voltage and what ever the actual fault is even with my trickle charger on.

So yeah where’s the canbus box, can have a look at that before I take steering column out.

The reason i say i also think its the steering wheel module is that when it works and connects most of the codes clears apart from a few which have nothing to do with this issue, so if the relay in the steering wheel box thing is going faulty it makes sense that the boxes that use terminal 15 etc sporadically can't communicate with everything else.

Crasher
07-10-2021, 06:29 PM
The steering module address 16 is not showing any errors but it has been revised to the A version

jonathanfenton
07-10-2021, 08:17 PM
Yeah so I dropped the steering column out and there’s nothing on it just the electronic lock.

Put it all back together and it fires straight up, as soon as you try to turn it off, the interior lights come on, the screen pops down, the clocks go off but the engine keeps running, so it’s a stuck relay somewhere keeping one of the terminals on.

Losing patience with it now [emoji2361]

jonathanfenton
07-10-2021, 11:07 PM
Think it’s a seats out job, start and auth box is under drivers seat, will see if it looks moist. Keyless “Kesey” box is under passenger seat which I know is wet but not sure if this car has keyless so might be red herring.

Crasher
08-10-2021, 11:24 AM
I can’t see Kesey in the PR code list

jonathanfenton
08-10-2021, 01:05 PM
So ive had drivers seat out, its got puddles but the control unit was dry inside when i took it apart (start and auth), had some more messing with it, so if i take battery connection off and put it back on, car behaves normally. I put key in and the steering lock shoots off, i turn key anti clockwise and lock shoots off ,i can repeat this many times and the steering lock shoots on and off perfectly so can rule that one out.

So if i turn the ignition to the on position everything powers on, everything works, if you then turn it to the off position you have the same issue, it only half switches off, the steering lock does nothing and it doesn't complete the shutdown procedure. You then can't do anything with the car, key fobs stop working everything locks out until you disconnect battery and reconnect and car works perfectly again.

Im running out of ideas, im going to pop passenger seat out just incase theres anything there as i know its very wet but the fact when you reset the car everything works perfectly im dubious. It's like something sticking on when the ignition requests shutdown, terminal 15 i think it is is staying on by a back feed or a stuck solanoid in something but im running out of ideas.

jonathanfenton
08-10-2021, 03:44 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211008/3752bfe9afc067b8e091c1e95f2cb292.jpg
So I always hate not closing forum posts.

This is the kissy? Unit that sits under near side seat. Both footwells were soaking. The start and auth box under off side is better sealed and survived.

This unit had water in it and corroded components. I carefully used contact cleaner and a detailing brush and cleaned the board, plugged it back in and problem was resolved!

What a faff. Now to dry the carpets and put it all together !

Crasher
08-10-2021, 04:48 PM
AND stop the leak. That unit is the Control unit for access and start authorisation AKA immobiliser and is superseded by 4E0 907 181 A

jonathanfenton
08-10-2021, 05:09 PM
Hope the new A variant is better at being water proof!

Trying to find the drains under the skuttle is proving hard. It’s full of crap so no doubt the sauce but trying to find where the actual drain is not as straight forward!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211008/d85fe2850c67a42b1c3e0e92ff963e92.jpg

Crasher
08-10-2021, 05:22 PM
The drain is for the air box, it is down in that hole underneath the solenoid valves and evil to get at. If you rock the car, sometimes you can hear water sloshing around inside the box.

jonathanfenton
08-10-2021, 05:39 PM
Managed to clear the near side one with a 6mm cable, not sure if offside has one too

Crasher
08-10-2021, 08:30 PM
There is one each side

lockeagle
05-04-2023, 03:22 PM
Hi, I might be reviving and old thread but hear me out please. I just got an 08 plate audi a8 3.0 tdi quattro. Lovely car to drive. 2 weeks ago I replaced the left front and rear door locks, as the old ones wouldn't unlock from the outside. After a lot of unlocking and locking it showed on the dashboard low battery charge. I plugged in my diag tool to clear the codes that come from the low charge (i had the engine running so the battery would still charge)and after clearing a lot of codes, when I tried to stop the engine, the key released from the ignition and all dashboard went dark but engine was still running. I put the key back in the ignition and turned it until eventually the engine stopped. But after that I didn't have any ignition, no steering lock. The only thing was the MMI popping out of the dashboard. I did search the forums, and found the j329 terminal relay under the dashboard was playing up. I took it apart and here is the weird thing: if I disconnect the contacts in the relay, put the key in the ignition, everything powred up as usual, but I have to keep it closed so I can start the engine. If i keep it closed (the relay) and try to stop the engine from the key, it has the same symptom: everything goes dark but engine runs. As soon as I let go of the relay, engine stops. I did get from the scrappers 3 other 370 relays, but as soon as I plug then in, the stop lights light up as if the brake is pressed and the key in the ignition does nothing. Today i received a brand new 70 amp bosch relay, plugged it in and it did improve it but partially. Basically I can start it now but sometimes it stops the engine, sometimes it doesn't and when it does that if I tap my finger on the relay the engine stops.

My thoughts were at first a sticky relay but a brand new one shouldn't do that. So I am thinking it might be one of the positive wires that come from the ignition switch that is giving the relay more voltage than it needs? Help !

Ps: I don't have the dreaded 0288 error code. When i scanned it with ignition off it showed 00576 on the immo module, and also the kessy module I took it apart and it was bone dry on mine.

Crasher
05-04-2023, 04:57 PM
Charge the battery but probably replace it, those systems are very sensitive to low voltages. I think the new one will need coding in.

lockeagle
06-04-2023, 07:39 AM
Hi, thank you for the reply.

The battery is brand new, even then I have put it on charger, and still it has the same symptoms. I might think, because I bought it like that, that the previous owner bought the new HB battery and replaced it himself. I don't think he coded it though. I didn't know you need to code it, and unfortunately my scan tool is multi brand and doesn't have that option. Is that an option in VCDS?

jonathanfenton
06-04-2023, 08:06 AM
Yes, but it’s not going to cause you the problems you are having. It’s to do with charging capacity and age so it knows how to charge it accordingly.

If the screen is going down every time you turn the key off the ignition switch is working. My money is one of the central electric modules under passenger carpet

Crasher
06-04-2023, 01:31 PM
My money is one of the central electric modules under passenger carpet

Water water everywhere...

lockeagle
06-04-2023, 01:34 PM
The passenger seat is still not bolted back in. What I have found under the passenger carpet was the bluetooth module in front of the seat, and i think the other one is the kessy module under the seat. I do have 2 plastic covers with a bunch of wires that goes under them so I'll have a look tomorrow to see what those are. Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the ignition? I think one of the positive wires that goes to the relay receive more power that in needs, or maybe a loose ground.

If I use the old dismantled relay, and use it as I the car should use it, opening and closing it, every module works fine, thats why I thing the j329 relay wiring is at fault.

Crasher
06-04-2023, 03:52 PM
Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the ignition?

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