2013 Scirocco 2.0 TSI gear box oil change

[Dqaff]

Hi
I have a 2013 Scirocco 2.0 TSI which I have had for a couple of months. Recently during the heavy rains I drove it inadvertently through some very deep water. The water came up above the headlights but somehow I managed to keep the car going through the flood and out the other side. I drove the car home (with no apparent problems) and left it overnight to drain and dry out. It started OK the next morning without any obvious issues. The only thing I have noticed is that the gear change now seems rougher than before the car had its bath!!! Is it possible that water got into the gearbox and if so how would I go about draining and refilling it? Quantities and specification of a suitable manual transmission oil would also be appreciated. Any other suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks

[Gazwould]

TFSI !!

2.3 L


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0733/4657/products/Sintofluid_FE_75w_2268x.png?v=1561040924


https://www.millersoils-shop.co.uk/content/images/thumbs/0000818_trx-synth-75w-manual-transmission-fluid.jpeg

[Crasher]

I have just rebuilt my 02M box and yes it would be possible for water to get into the box through the breather but it would be a tiny amount as it is designed to close with external pressure so I would say it is more likely the water has affected the cable shift system. I used Red Line MTL

https://www.redlineoil.com/content/images/thumbs/0000256_mtl-75w80-gl-4-gear-oil_464.jpeg

[Gazwould]

Incorrect spec oil it requires a 70W75 not a 75W80 .

There are no VAG specs whatsoever with this Red Line , whereas the Millers & Fuchs , carry G 052 171 , 178 , 512 etc .

The Red Line is simply too thick as the viscosity units reveal !



Fuchs Titan Sintofluid FE SAE 75W

40° C & 100°C

40.8 & 6.7 cSt



Millers TRX Synth 75W

28.1 & 6.1 cSt



Red Line MTL

50.8 & 10.4 cSt



I would go with the thinnest as it will be the most slick when cold.

[Crasher]

I have had spectacular results with it in VAG gearbox’s for around 25 years.

Opinion also seems to vary on what G 052 527 A2 is.
https://digital-assets.tecalliance.services/images/800/679c088c766e64aedb875faa3f28db455c6163a2.png

[Crasher]

I don’t know who closed this.

[oilman]

TFSI !!

2.3 L


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0733/4657/products/Sintofluid_FE_75w_2268x.png?v=1561040924


https://www.millersoils-shop.co.uk/content/images/thumbs/0000818_trx-synth-75w-manual-transmission-fluid.jpeg


You can get these from us with VWAUDIFORUM discount 75w Fully Synthetic Gearbox Oil For Manual Gearboxes (https://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-668-75w-gear-oil.aspx)

Cheers,

Guy

[Gazwould]

I rest my case...

[Gazwould]

Incorrect spec oil it requires a 70W75 not a 75W80 .

There are no VAG specs whatsoever with this Red Line , whereas the Millers & Fuchs , carry G 052 171 , 178 , 512 etc .

The Red Line is simply too thick as the viscosity units reveal !



Fuchs Titan Sintofluid FE SAE 75W

40° C & 100°C

40.8 & 6.7 cSt



Millers TRX Synth 75W

28.1 & 6.1 cSt



Red Line MTL

50.8 & 10.4 cSt



I would go with the thinnest as it will be the most slick when cold.



One for Stevie .

Red Line MT-LV

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.scionlife.com-vbulletin/616x1024/1ydpioeh_131e03cb8f2a375f18c9b79341f713e69cd8cf65. jpg

comparable to the Fuchs Titan Sintofluid FE SAE 75W and Millers TRX Synth 75W .

Red Line MT-LV

29.8 & 6.5 cSt .


RED LINE MT-LV HIGH-PERFORMANCE GEAR OIL is a full-synthetic ester-based lubricant designed for use in manual transmissions and front-wheel-drive transaxles. This shear-stable formula resists breakdown for extended periods and offers more consistent viscosity in warm and cold temperatures for less gear noise and improved shifting. This fluid is less slippery for improved synchronizer coefficient of friction and offers stronger film strength for better wear protection.

Suitable replacement for:

API GL-4 / GL-3 / GL-1
SAE 70W/75W
BMW DTF 1
BMW X-Drive Transfer Case Fluid
BMW 83 22 0 306 816
BMW 83 22 0 397 244
BMW 83 22 2 409 710
Cadillac 19331044
Castrol BOT 270A - Graziano Transaxle for Aston Martin, Audi and Lamborghini
Castrol BOT 350 M3
Castrol BOT 303 mod
Chevron GS CALTEX MTF HD 70W
Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep 9.55550-MZ6
Dodge/Fiat 68092630AA
Ford XT-11-QDC
Ford WSS-M2C200-D2
GM 10-4037
GM 19259104
GM 19259105
Honda i-Shift MTF-3
Honda i-Shift MTF-III
Hyundai/Kia 00232-19063
Jaguar/Land Rover C2Z25586
MB A001 989 98 03 09
MB 235.10
MB 235.73
MB 317
MB 001 989 26 03 10
MB A 001 989 98 03 09
Nissan/Infinity 999MP-TF0870P
Nissan/Infinity TF0870
Porsche 000 043 300 36
Porsche 000 043 301 36
Porsche 000 043 305 63
Shell SPIRAX S6 GHME 70W
Shell TF 0870
SK HK MTF 70W
Toyota MT Gear Oil LV 75W
Toyota 08885-81040
Toyota/Lexus transfer case fluid "Genuine Gear Oil LF 75W“ 08885-81080
Toyota/Scion Manual Transmission Oil LV
Toyota/Scion 08885-81001
VW G 052 726
VW/Audi G 052 171
VW/Audi G 052 512 A2
VW/Audi G 055 515
VW/Audi G 052 527 A2
VW/Audi G 052 725
VW/Audi G 060 726 A2
VW/Audi G 070 726 A2



Only problem is cost , going by the L or near L Quart , Fuchs is £13 , Millers £15 and Red Line £20 .

[Crasher]

That is news, like when I discovered G12 Evo coolant a few weeks back, a bit slow on the uptake... I blame my age. When we started this debate I went onto their web site and didn’t notice this. I will order some with my next order and try it as now I have the car back on the road I have noticed a very slight balk into second when very cold. I just noticed an odd forum action which explains why it must have been me who closed this thread; as an admin, you tap post quick reply just off the edge it also ticks close thread, I will have to tell Stu.

[Gazwould]

On this rare occasion I'm going to let you off, lol .

I only came about it myself as someone used the correct genuine MB manual gearbox oil which caused issues and this MT-LV with the same Mercedes spec cured the poor cold shift issues of the new genuine oil .

Trouble is you rarely get data sheets with genuine .

Even Opie Oils don't list it's OEM specs properly .

I went to redline oil.com for the horses mouth .

[Crasher]

On this rare occasion I'm going to let you off

That’s very magnanimous of you :booty:

I have a suspicion that it wasn’t listed last time I looked but I will add it to our stock and eBay shop.

[oilman]

On this rare occasion I'm going to let you off, lol .

I only came about it myself as someone used the correct genuine MB manual gearbox oil which caused issues and this MT-LV with the same Mercedes spec cured the poor cold shift issues of the new genuine oil .

Trouble is you rarely get data sheets with genuine .

Even Opie Oils don't list it's OEM specs properly .

I went to redline oil.com for the horses mouth .

It is all listed on the tech data sheet here https://cdn.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/redline/MT-LV-70-75W-tds.pdf

I will get the website updatged to put the specs on the website description.

Cheers,

Guy

[Crasher]

I changed my 02M boxes oil from MTL to MT-LV yesterday; this morning at -4c the shift into second was definitely smoother.