A6 3.0 TDI - new pads and discs prices

[MrNicenice]

Hi - hoping for some advice here.

My A6 needs news pads and discs at front and rear. My dealer offers different prices for 2.0 litre and under cars so obv I'm in the higher bracket and the price is a £200 delta.

What difference in their costs would there be for a larger engine car when replacing brake parts?

Thanks in advance

[Whippy53]

Year?

[MrNicenice]

Late 2015. With air suspension if that makes any difference

[Whippy53]

Pads n discs rear £485
Fronts £595.

[MrNicenice]

Thanks I have a quotation already from the dealer. That's how I know the price for 2.0 litre engined car is £200 lower :)

My question is why would the price be lower for the same work with - I presume - the same parts and the same labour just for a car with a smaller engine?

[bluezie]

It looks like it's the way they structure their pricing menus.
I.e. they aren't pricing things with a time and motion study of labour, plus parts, but have several vague generic prices based on arbitrary things like engine size.
AFAIK, the 2.0 and 3.0 have identical discs and pads, therefore identical labour time and parts costs. And even if there were some parts differences in some models, the labour time would still be the same.

[Whippy53]

I wouldn't be getting it done at a dealer anyway I'm afraid.

[MrNicenice]

It looks like it's the way they structure their pricing menus.
I.e. they aren't pricing things with a time and motion study of labour, plus parts, but have several vague generic prices based on arbitrary things like engine size.
AFAIK, the 2.0 and 3.0 have identical discs and pads, therefore identical labour time and parts costs. And even if there were some parts differences in some models, the labour time would still be the same.

Thanks. Kind of what I thought - no difference to their own cost to deliver this service and I’ll ask for the lower price unless they can justify why it’s £200 more.

[MrNicenice]

I wouldn't be getting it done at a dealer anyway I'm afraid.

Which still doesn’t answer the question. Never mind, thanks for trying.

[lynalldiscovery]

I think the 3.0tdi has much bigger brakes than the 2.0 litre, rears are vented as well as the fronts?

Iirc the rear discs on the wifes 3.0tdi are bigger than the front ones on my discovery!

[Jinxit]

GSF have 60% off brake parts at the moment. I would buy Brembo and DIY. Easy to do. When I first had an EPB I bought an icarsoft OBD tool for releasing the EPB and the cost of the parts and tool were cheaper than dealer for parts. Incidentally I only changed the rears due to corrosion and the Brembo disks stayed corrosion free.

[MrNicenice]

I think the 3.0tdi has much bigger brakes than the 2.0 litre, rears are vented as well as the fronts?

Iirc the rear discs on the wifes 3.0tdi are bigger than the front ones on my discovery!

Thanks for this. Dealer also verified that by sending me 2.0L and 3.0L brake quotes. 2.0L are 320mm diameter and the 3.0L are 345mm (and Brembo, can't recall who makes the 2L ones).

Still irked a little that the visual inspection vid they sent 2 weeks ago when the car went in for an electronics fault showed 6mm still left and the technician states "loads of life left".

A week later my brake warning light comes on, and with a more thorough check it transpires they've worn unevenly and there's actually 2mm left on the fronts and 3mm on the rear .... apparently they only check the easiest part to see/reach on the pads for the complementary health check.

So what is the point of checking then??

In fairness I've done 32,000 miles so I guess that's about right for replacing pads and discs but it would have been nice to get more accurate info from the healthcheck. And a bill for £1050 to change fronts and rears :(

[MrNicenice]

GSF have 60% off brake parts at the moment. I would buy Brembo and DIY. Easy to do. When I first had an EPB I bought an icarsoft OBD tool for releasing the EPB and the cost of the parts and tool were cheaper than dealer for parts. Incidentally I only changed the rears due to corrosion and the Brembo disks stayed corrosion free.

I'm a car numpty. Only now do I regret messing around with my mates when my dad basically took his rustbucket Alfa to pieces and back again every Sunday when I was little.

[bluezie]

I think the 3.0tdi has much bigger brakes than the 2.0 litre, rears are vented as well as the fronts?

Iirc the rear discs on the wifes 3.0tdi are bigger than the front ones on my discovery!

That's ECP listings for you! Which is wrong for my 3.0.
Well looking at a proper Audi parts catalogue, there a quite a few variants of disc sizes fitted to the A6 depending on spec and engine size and engine power output.

[morski]

Check the pr code in your service book or boot and you can see what brakes you have fitted when cross ref'd on ETKA

[danclyon]

Hi - hoping for some advice here.

My A6 needs news pads and discs at front and rear. My dealer offers different prices for 2.0 litre and under cars so obv I'm in the higher bracket and the price is a £200 delta.

What difference in their costs would there be for a larger engine car when replacing brake parts?

Thanks in advance

Do yourself a favour :) Grab your code sheet in the manual or somewhere in the boot, and punch it into the Audi PR code decoder.
You'll find your brake codes in there. Then go to ECP and look up your reg, find the disks/pads that match your PR codes add them to the baset, and add todays coupon and get a price.
They will then offer you "installation"....FWIW, discs/pads all-round - £140 for my A6.

Then get a quote on your reg from ClickMechanic - then mail them about your quote and ask what discs/pads they will use.
They'll call you and then you can say "what if I want these ones".....I did this, and they said OE manufacturer on my specific vehicle was Pagid, but what did I want.....and then we discussed Brembo.
Front/Rear discs and pads on mine was £530 (from memory) done 48 hours after I booked, at home, with Brembo parts, which the mechanic was very careful to show me were the real deal, as there is a tendency for some less-than-honest-types to put non-premium brand parts in the box and charge you for premium....

Personally couldn't be happier, and the savings over the dealer rates was enough to pay for the next service and full set of Goodyears.....so quite significant!

And FWIW, a close friend of mine just got a price from ClickMechanic (nearly the same as mine - think it was max 50 quid more) and the guy turned up 48 hours later with Genuine discs/pads....

D.

[A8Cruiser]

Thanks for this. Dealer also verified that by sending me 2.0L and 3.0L brake quotes. 2.0L are 320mm diameter and the 3.0L are 345mm (and Brembo, can't recall who makes the 2L ones).

Still irked a little that the visual inspection vid they sent 2 weeks ago when the car went in for an electronics fault showed 6mm still left and the technician states "loads of life left".

A week later my brake warning light comes on, and with a more thorough check it transpires they've worn unevenly and there's actually 2mm left on the fronts and 3mm on the rear .... apparently they only check the easiest part to see/reach on the pads for the complementary health check.

So what is the point of checking then??

In fairness I've done 32,000 miles so I guess that's about right for replacing pads and discs but it would have been nice to get more accurate info from the healthcheck. And a bill for £1050 to change fronts and rears :(

32,000 miles should just be pads. Discs should be fine unless warped etc.
And only if you have been stomping on the brakes all the time, with cheap sandpaper based pads should you need discs.

front pads are an easy diy job. Rear discs need the reset tool for the EPB.

In all my driving years, I have only had to replace discs twice.